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But it's in there, right?

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You can tell who the liberals are on this thread by their laser focus on one random post, on a 6 page and counting thread, about the initial article and complete lack of commentary on the actual tragedy.

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It has 230someodd stars, it was on the front page of this website all day yesterday, half of the posts on this forum are complaints about the media...and despite all of that, no one would still be "focused" on it if you weren't arguing about it with everyone for the past 4 hours

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BassCowboy33 said:

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chickenfingers said:

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Interesting that news story doesn't include he's from Mexico

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Yes it does. The article states he is a Mexican national. Yet 215 people still starred this post.

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Hilarious what you choose to be upset about.

Good grief, dude.

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I dunno, man. I feel like making a statement saying a journalist didn't write something, when they clearly did, shows a level of ignorance on the story that throws their opinions of it into question. It also falsely makes others too lazy to read the article think that the story intentionally leaves something out because of bias, when, again, it's right there in plain English.

There's a lot of complaining about fake news these days. But "fake" doesn't just apply to the publications. Readers/the public also bear responsibility for informing themselves with the information. A journalist can lay it out there. At that point, the ball is in the reader's court.

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I get it…but on a thread where an illegal "immigrant" brutally murdered a family including 2 children, larry culpepper is NOT going to let a random comment, about the freaking article, go. Apparently blue stars REALLY irritate him.

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I think the problem isn't the stars, but that the stars were for what basically amounts to, at best, fake news. At worst, an attempt to ruIe people up.

TXAggie2011 said:

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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But it's in there, right?

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You can tell who the liberals are on this thread by their laser focus on one random post, on a 6 page and counting thread, about the initial article and complete lack of commentary on the actual tragedy.

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It has 230someodd stars, it was on the front page of this website all day yesterday, half of the posts on this forum are complaints about the media...and despite all of that, no one would still be "focused" on it if you weren't arguing about it with everyone for the past 4 hours

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Another one.

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Pumpkinhead said:

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If he was illegal (deported twice) then that police department should be burned.

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Think about it a little more. Why would any local PD even bother with verifying immigration status, when the federal govt does jack squat to assist? If the San Jacinto Co. Sheriff's Dept. detained every illegal they encountered and held them while waiting on ICE to cooperate/pick up, their manpower and detention facilities would be overrun in likely less than a week. All so the guy could be instantly released backed into the community.

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It's funny. The libs in here are desperate to prove the Democrat Party Media doesn't have an agenda by pointing out that ABC news did state the perp was a Mexican national.

But lets look at the second paragraph:

"A manhunt is currently underway for the suspect, identified by the San Jacinto County Sheriff's Office as 38-year-old Francisco Oropeza. The FBI's Houston Field Office said it is assisting in the ongoing search."

This is the way it should read:

A manhunt is currently underway for the suspect, identified by the San Jacinto County Sheriff's Office as 38-year-old Francisco Oropeza, a Mexican national . The FBI's Houston Field Office said it is assisting in the ongoing search.


Instead, waaaaaaaaay down in paragraph 21, lol, almost at the end of a pretty long article, they mention he is a Mexican national.

In paragraph 1, right off the bat, they are quick to state " an AR 15 style rifle".

No agenda here. Lololol.

Word is he left something at the scene, and they have a tracking dog or dogs about to go see if they can find him.

Of course the media has ans agenda! It's to push liberal policies on us. Been that way for several generations!

Doesn't make the statement about not mentioning his nationality suddenly factual!


Oh, welcome to F16! How did you find the board for your first ever post here?

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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chickenfingers said:

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Interesting that news story doesn't include he's from Mexico

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Yes it does. The article states he is a Mexican national. Yet 215 people still starred this post.

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Hilarious what you choose to be upset about.

Good grief, dude.

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I dunno, man. I feel like making a statement saying a journalist didn't write something, when they clearly did, shows a level of ignorance on the story that throws their opinions of it into question. It also falsely makes others too lazy to read the article think that the story intentionally leaves something out because of bias, when, again, it's right there in plain English.

There's a lot of complaining about fake news these days. But "fake" doesn't just apply to the publications. Readers/the public also bear responsibility for informing themselves with the information. A journalist can lay it out there. At that point, the ball is in the reader's court.

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I get it…but on a thread where an illegal "immigrant" brutally murdered a family including 2 children, larry culpepper is NOT going to let a random comment, about the freaking article, go. Apparently blue stars REALLY irritate him.

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I think the problem isn't the stars, but that the stars were for what basically amounts to, at best, fake news. At worst, an attempt to rule people up.

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I agree with you. I don't like misleading narratives in either direction. Just give me the facts and let me use my brain.

What I'm poking fun at on this thread is that these sudden warriors for accuracy were nowhere to be found (for years mind you) during say…the Russian collusion narrative. They're hypocrites. I like calling out hypocrites.

As a warrior of truth, shouldn't you be calling out chickenfingers?

A handful of posters, such as yourself, who only care about fake news when it goes against their predefined narrative already handled it.

Not that much of a warrior of truth then

edit: anyways, enjoy your sunday, hope you're having good weather, go have a bud light and relax

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But it's in there, right?

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It's in there towards the end of the article - on purpose.

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Guy isn't even from here, but no problemo getting those assault rifles and *checks story* shooting them outside his house on multiple occasions. We don't have any gun problems at all here. None.

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a. He's illegal and only here because you voted for it.
b. He didn't legally buy the gun.

Stop supporting illegal aliens.

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What is the guys immigration status...can't find anything online

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Reported that DPS records show he got arrested for DUI in 2009.

Sheriff said his deputies had been to the guy's home 'at least once before' due to complaints.

Police said they were interviewing his wife who he lived with.

Other Neighbor was quoted that in his 3 years as the guy's neighbor, never had a problem with him.

Then you got the 'Deported Twice' stuff, but if he was illegal that doesn't necessarily line up with all the above. The deputies who had been called to his home previously never bothered to do a background check on him?

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Deputies and all law enforcement that isn't ICE/BP know where all the illegals are. Back in the RGV, it's ridiculously easy to see the areas they all live in. They can also go up and talk to all the guys standing outside Home Depot and Lowes, waiting to be picked up by American contractors. For some reason, though, they don't.

Same with school districts. They all know which of their student's parents have no socials and weren't born in the U.S., making them more likely than not to be here illegally. Yet, again, nothing is done. Business owners see different guys with a social that was used by someone else previously. Yet, again, nothing is done.

All politicians know this, yet nothing gets done.

And people honestly think their politician wants to solve immigration. They'd have done it decades ago, and that's not even putting all their focus on those crossing the border; they can just focus on the ones that have been working and living here for years.

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All of this is true

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-releases-new-photos-fugitive-accused-fatally-shooting-5-neighbors-texas

Mayorkas said he won't comment on the murderer's immigration status because this is an active case. And of course the murderer's immigration status legally has nothing to do with the case. Mayorkas and Biden have more blood on their hands.

From Sheriff's website…

My office is still actively searching for Francisco Oropeza, the alleged murderer of 5 people in our county late Friday night. We are being assisted by the FBI Houston Office and their SWAT team, the United States Marshals and Gulf Coast Violent Offenders Task Force, Harris County Sheriff's Office VIPER Task Force, Liberty County Sheriff's Office SRT and CID, Texas DPS and Texas Rangers, and Montgomery County Sheriff's Office. Several dozen law enforcement officials are currently investigating leads and intel as it becomes available, as well as continuing to examine the area. We ask that the general public limit traffic to the area while law enforcement works to capture the suspect.

We will provide updates as they become available.

If you have any information regarding this case, please contact our office immediately. 936-653-4367.

Thank you,
Sheriff G. Capers

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Our government let this guy go twice. He's a victim of circumstance. His victims are the governments victims.

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If he was deported twice that does not mean 'let him go' twice'. Deported is totally appropriate unless you'd prefer we just shot people to guarantee they never attempt to get back in.

IF he was illegal and let's see if authorities themselves confirm that, then the focus should be on the local cops. They knew this guy. Had already had previous calls to that residence. If was illegal and they didn't bother to do a background check that is incompetence. If they knew he was illegal (and not only that but an illegal shooting guns causing complaints from neighbors!) well…WTF.

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I thought your team made it where police couldn't ask about citizenship?

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Our government let this guy go twice. He's a victim of circumstance. His victims are the governments victims.

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If he was deported twice that does not mean 'let him go' twice'. Deported is totally appropriate unless you'd prefer we just shot people to guarantee they never attempt to get back in.

IF he was illegal and let's see if authorities themselves confirm that, then the focus should be on the local cops. They knew this guy. Had already had previous calls to that residence. If was illegal and they didn't bother to do a background check that is incompetence. If they knew he was illegal (and not only that but an illegal shooting guns causing complaints from neighbors!) well…WTF.

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I thought your team made it where police couldn't ask about citizenship?

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You thought wrong.

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Our government let this guy go twice. He's a victim of circumstance. His victims are the governments victims.

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If he was deported twice that does not mean 'let him go' twice'. Deported is totally appropriate unless you'd prefer we just shot people to guarantee they never attempt to get back in.

IF he was illegal and let's see if authorities themselves confirm that, then the focus should be on the local cops. They knew this guy. Had already had previous calls to that residence. If was illegal and they didn't bother to do a background check that is incompetence. If they knew he was illegal (and not only that but an illegal shooting guns causing complaints from neighbors!) well…WTF.

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I thought your team made it where police couldn't ask about citizenship?

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You thought wrong.

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Sure

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Our government let this guy go twice. He's a victim of circumstance. His victims are the governments victims.

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If he was deported twice that does not mean 'let him go' twice'. Deported is totally appropriate unless you'd prefer we just shot people to guarantee they never attempt to get back in.

IF he was illegal and let's see if authorities themselves confirm that, then the focus should be on the local cops. They knew this guy. Had already had previous calls to that residence. If was illegal and they didn't bother to do a background check that is incompetence. If they knew he was illegal (and not only that but an illegal shooting guns causing complaints from neighbors!) well…WTF.

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I thought your team made it where police couldn't ask about citizenship?

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You thought wrong.

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Sure

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Want to explain exactly what in my posts on this thread triggered your jab?

My comment about 'Deported'? Well the other options to deportation are to never deport, put them in prison for life sucking up tax dollars, or killing them.

Doesn't matter how much you throw at border security some folks would always get through illegally. So what do you do if you find them? Best to Deport them correct?

Pumpkinhead said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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Our government let this guy go twice. He's a victim of circumstance. His victims are the governments victims.

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If he was deported twice that does not mean 'let him go' twice'. Deported is totally appropriate unless you'd prefer we just shot people to guarantee they never attempt to get back in.

IF he was illegal and let's see if authorities themselves confirm that, then the focus should be on the local cops. They knew this guy. Had already had previous calls to that residence. If was illegal and they didn't bother to do a background check that is incompetence. If they knew he was illegal (and not only that but an illegal shooting guns causing complaints from neighbors!) well…WTF.

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I thought your team made it where police couldn't ask about citizenship?

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You thought wrong.

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Sure

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Want to explain exactly what in my posts on this thread triggered your jab?

My comment about 'Deported'? Well the other options to deportation are to never deport, put them in prison for life sucking up tax dollars, or killing them.

Doesn't matter how much you throw at border security some folks would always get through illegally. So what do you do if you find them? Best to Deport them correct?

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Your team has done everything in their power to make that impossible and now you must live with the consequences of those choices. I find it utterly ridiculous that you support hamstringing local cops at every turn then blame them when the exact thing that everyone with half a brain knows will happen actually happens.

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cevans_40 said:

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Our government let this guy go twice. He's a victim of circumstance. His victims are the governments victims.

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If he was deported twice that does not mean 'let him go' twice'. Deported is totally appropriate unless you'd prefer we just shot people to guarantee they never attempt to get back in.

IF he was illegal and let's see if authorities themselves confirm that, then the focus should be on the local cops. They knew this guy. Had already had previous calls to that residence. If was illegal and they didn't bother to do a background check that is incompetence. If they knew he was illegal (and not only that but an illegal shooting guns causing complaints from neighbors!) well…WTF.

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I thought your team made it where police couldn't ask about citizenship?

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You thought wrong.

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Sure

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Want to explain exactly what in my posts on this thread triggered your jab?

My comment about 'Deported'? Well the other options to deportation are to never deport, put them in prison for life sucking up tax dollars, or killing them.

Doesn't matter how much you throw at border security some folks would always get through illegally. So what do you do if you find them? Best to Deport them correct?

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Your team has done everything in their power to make that impossible and now you must live with the consequences of those choices. I find it utterly ridiculous that you support hamstringing local cops at every turn then blame them when the exact thing that everyone with half a brain knows will happen actually happens.

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Where did I ever post I support hamstrung cops? You imply that I have an opinion which I do not have.

I find it ridiculous that if the guy was illegal and cops got called to his house multiple times for complaints shooting guns, that nothing happened. a Guy illegally in the country is allowed to not only avoid deportation but is allowed to keep and continue shooting his guns? That is ridiculous.

So yes, I would have some hard questions. If this is a systemic issue then the system needs to be fixed. Cops should be able to background check this guy, see he is illegal with lots of deportations in a few seconds, and confiscate his guns and send him back to Mexico.

On the other hand If the cops dropped the ball here and let this guy slip through not following some procedure then some heads should roll.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-fugitive-accused-killing-5-deported-5-times

ICE says he was deported five times

So we have an illegal murdering 5 other illegals in our state. Those poor souls and those children deserved better. This is a catastrophe at the hands of liberals, democrats and republicans who tolerate an open border.

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-fugitive-accused-killing-5-deported-5-times

ICE says he was deported five times

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Maybe if somebody has to be deported multiple times, there needs to be a three-strike rule. A warning that if there is a Third time…you are deported to a small raft in the middle of the Pacific….

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-fugitive-accused-killing-5-deported-5-times

ICE says he was deported five times

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Sadly, this should surprise no one. One has to wonder between San Jac Co, Liberty Co, and Cleveland ISD if somebody is gettin paid...

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Just in the last five years, Liberty County and its CISD's 143 square miles have drawn tens of thousands of illegal immigrant families with school-age children. Where thick timberlands were clear-cut rose a vast jumble of single- and double-wide trailers on low stilts, hand-hewn shacks made of leftover construction material, and parked motor homes. The community is called "Colony Ridge". It sprawls over some 35 square miles of unincorporated former timber company lands all around the outskirts of old settler towns like Plum Grove, Cleveland, Dayton, and Splendora, nary a group of trees in sight now.

Upwards of 50,000 mostly Spanish-speaking Latinos, probably many more nobody knows, really by late 2022 were living on some 30,000 homestead lots they purchased in recent years from Terrenos Houston, the land development company started by an "original" named William Henry "Trey" Harris and brother John Harris a decade earlier. From just 2019 through 2022, Colony Ridge more than doubled in size to almost 20,000 acres. Another doubling was in the works for 2023, with 20,000 more lots under development.

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https://cis.org/Report/Americas-Public-Schools-Canaries-Coal-Mine-Biden-Border-Crisis

First deportation, fingerprint them, or notch an ear, or microchip them. Second deportation via trebuchet, fling them back across the river.

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First deportation, fingerprint them, or notch an ear, or microchip them. Second deportation via trebuchet, fling them back across the river.

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Presence on US soil after a deportation results in a 2nd felony illegal entry charge aggressively adjudicated resulting in conviction and deportation.

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lethalninja said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-fugitive-accused-killing-5-deported-5-times

ICE says he was deported five times

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Sadly, this should surprise no one. One has to wonder between San Jac Co, Liberty Co, and Cleveland ISD if somebody is gettin paid...

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Just in the last five years, Liberty County and its CISD's 143 square miles have drawn tens of thousands of illegal immigrant families with school-age children. Where thick timberlands were clear-cut rose a vast jumble of single- and double-wide trailers on low stilts, hand-hewn shacks made of leftover construction material, and parked motor homes. The community is called "Colony Ridge". It sprawls over some 35 square miles of unincorporated former timber company lands all around the outskirts of old settler towns like Plum Grove, Cleveland, Dayton, and Splendora, nary a group of trees in sight now.

Upwards of 50,000 mostly Spanish-speaking Latinos, probably many more nobody knows, really by late 2022 were living on some 30,000 homestead lots they purchased in recent years from Terrenos Houston, the land development company started by an "original" named William Henry "Trey" Harris and brother John Harris a decade earlier. From just 2019 through 2022, Colony Ridge more than doubled in size to almost 20,000 acres. Another doubling was in the works for 2023, with 20,000 more lots under development.

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https://cis.org/Report/Americas-Public-Schools-Canaries-Coal-Mine-Biden-Border-Crisis

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Going strictly from memory (which might not be a good idea) but it seems the first part of the development was on acreage containing a lot of wetlands. They had studies of the soil made and it seems the studies showed better drainage than actually was the case. The ground would not soak up the water (might be the reason the wetlands were there!). Once this was questioned because of standing water, washed out roads, and flooding, it was found that some of the paperwork pertaining to the drainage had turned up missing. Supposedly, an investigation was to take place. At the time, the district attorney was the daughter of the county engineer who had signed off on all the reports.

I heard, and it may still be the case, that they didn't have fire hydrants. Most of the lots were owner financed at high interest rates. I remember reading that nearly all of the foreclosures in Liberty County one year were in Colony Ridge.

Somebody, likely somebodies, are getting paid. I do not see how any of this cesspool was allowed to go forward. Any time I have built something or wanted to, the red tape and permitting process, etc. was enough to make you not want to!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/mexican-national-wanted-for-allegedly-murdering-5-neighbors-in-texas-is-thrice-deported-illegal-alien-reports

This article says he was deported three times, so he was deported either three or five times, but at least three

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First deportation, fingerprint them, or notch an ear, or microchip them. Second deportation via trebuchet, fling them back across the river.

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Presence on US soil after a deportation results in a 2nd felony illegal entry charge aggressively adjudicated resulting in conviction and deportation.

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Yeah, I just read about a guy who had illegally reentered the US after having been deported FOUR TIMES and he got five years and three months.

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-fugitive-accused-killing-5-deported-5-times

ICE says he was deported five times

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Sadly, this should surprise no one. One has to wonder between San Jac Co, Liberty Co, and Cleveland ISD if somebody is gettin paid...

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Just in the last five years, Liberty County and its CISD's 143 square miles have drawn tens of thousands of illegal immigrant families with school-age children. Where thick timberlands were clear-cut rose a vast jumble of single- and double-wide trailers on low stilts, hand-hewn shacks made of leftover construction material, and parked motor homes. The community is called "Colony Ridge". It sprawls over some 35 square miles of unincorporated former timber company lands all around the outskirts of old settler towns like Plum Grove, Cleveland, Dayton, and Splendora, nary a group of trees in sight now.

Upwards of 50,000 mostly Spanish-speaking Latinos, probably many more nobody knows, really by late 2022 were living on some 30,000 homestead lots they purchased in recent years from Terrenos Houston, the land development company started by an "original" named William Henry "Trey" Harris and brother John Harris a decade earlier. From just 2019 through 2022, Colony Ridge more than doubled in size to almost 20,000 acres. Another doubling was in the works for 2023, with 20,000 more lots under development.

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https://cis.org/Report/Americas-Public-Schools-Canaries-Coal-Mine-Biden-Border-Crisis

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You should read the book, "Terror on Highway 59", by Steve Sellers, on the historical corruption with a former Sheriff in San Jacinto County. First editions are collectibles.

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/mexican-national-wanted-for-allegedly-murdering-5-neighbors-in-texas-is-thrice-deported-illegal-alien-reports

This article says he was deported three times, so he was deported either three or five times, but at least three

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When I worked alongside customs, there were ICE repatriation flights leaving from the airport. One day, I spoke to an ICE agent about the flights who was an accompanying guard and he told me that since there were no consequences on illegals caught and deported multiple times that he has quite a few repeat offenders and a few see it as a "free" flight to their homeland to see the family..

He had one that after landing in Honduras, one of the repatriates turned to him and stated, see you in six months.

This was 15 years ago and I am sure it is now much much worse.

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Our government let this guy go twice. He's a victim of circumstance. His victims are the governments victims.

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If he was deported twice that does not mean 'let him go' twice'. Deported is totally appropriate unless you'd prefer we just shot people to guarantee they never attempt to get back in.

IF he was illegal and let's see if authorities themselves confirm that, then the focus should be on the local cops. They knew this guy. Had already had previous calls to that residence. If was illegal and they didn't bother to do a background check that is incompetence. If they knew he was illegal (and not only that but an illegal shooting guns causing complaints from neighbors!) well…WTF.

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I thought your team made it where police couldn't ask about citizenship?

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You thought wrong.

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Sure

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Want to explain exactly what in my posts on this thread triggered your jab?

My comment about 'Deported'? Well the other options to deportation are to never deport, put them in prison for life sucking up tax dollars, or killing them.

Doesn't matter how much you throw at border security some folks would always get through illegally. So what do you do if you find them? Best to Deport them correct?

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Yes. Instead they let him be.

I thought the said about 4 pages ago they had him surrounded.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/5-dead-child-shooting-texas-home-suspect-large-rcna82090