Fat Talk: glamorizing thinness rooted in white supremacy and patriarchy

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Thing from Planet Girth. It is here visiting and needs to supplement it's air supply...not enough methane.
usmcbrooks
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Change Detection said:

Thing from Planet Girth. It is here visiting and needs to supplement it's air supply...not enough methane.
Wonder if she brought travel scrabble for the trip......
AGinHI
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usmcbrooks said:

Change Detection said:

Thing from Planet Girth. It is here visiting and needs to supplement it's air supply...not enough methane.
Wonder if she brought travel scrabble for the trip......
Guaranteed there are a lot of posters who don't know about travel scrabble.
“We don't have a government of the people, by the people, for the people. We have government of the people, by the bureaucrats, for the bureaucrats.”

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Urban Ag
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Here is the difference between conservatives and liberals. Well, one of many differences.

We police our own. Sure, we have some wingnuts. They typically get ostracized and shunned for really bad takes.

However, I guarantee you most of the board libs have at least glanced over this thread and yet not a peep. Obesity is gross, and they know it, but they won't comment. Physical fitness is a wanted position in life. They know it, yet they're happy to let their fatass ilk turn obesity in to the next "trans". They never police their own regardless of how utterly insane their latest bad take is.

I used to worry about leftist influence on my kids. But honestly, it has gotten way past the point where they defy human nature, actual science, and even the most basic concepts of normalcy, such that they have done the heavy lifting for me. The modern left has made my kids conservatives much more than I have.
Urban Ag
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I couldn/t hear or see the guy in the window seat anymore, pretty sure he was dead by now

4stringAg
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Who knew there were so many black white supremacists. All those guys and gals out there playing college and pro sports, the black men and women at my gym, the two black dudes I eat lunch with at work a lot, and more. All fit as a fiddle but apparently all the while not knowing they are white supremacists.
AGinHI
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While I've never posted in that thread I have probably read it once a year

And even shared it with my teenage boys



Every time.
“We don't have a government of the people, by the people, for the people. We have government of the people, by the bureaucrats, for the bureaucrats.”

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fc2112
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ProgN said:

Her argument is that when slavery was abolished and African Americans started gaining rights, white supremacists sought to maintain old inequalities by demonizing black bodies and glamorizing thinness.
I'm going to suggest she knows almost nothing about the postbellum South. There were a lot of hungry people everywhere, most especially freedmen in places like - oh, Georgia?
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These idiots are the off spring of the 60's children, whose psychiatrists told them they were fat because their parents made them clean their plate, so therefore their parents were not worth a sheet. Crazies can always blame someone.
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However, I guarantee you most of the board libs have at least glanced over this thread and yet not a peep. Obesity is gross, and they know it, but they won't comment. Physical fitness is a wanted position in life. They know it, yet they're happy to let their fatass ilk turn obesity in to the next "trans". They never police their own regardless of how utterly insane their latest bad take is.

I know for a fact one of our resident goalies has someone close to them pushing the fat is fabulous narrative, even after Covid. Pushing fat is okay killed more people during covid than anyone going without a mask, and yes, even the vaccine. In fact, if there wasnt' a single obese person in the US covid would have been nothing more than a seasonal cold.
Urban Ag
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Owlagdad said:

These idiots are the off spring of the 60's children, whose psychiatrists told them they were fat because their parents made them clean their plate, so therefore their parents were not worth a sheet. Crazies can always blame someone.
My dad made us eat as a family almost every night and we ate whatever mom put on the table and you didn't complain and yes you cleaned your plate. And we went from skinny boys to muscled up and fit adult men.

And mom used real Crisco, you know, the white stuff in the can that I don't think Gen Y or Z even knows existed.
pdc093
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Rapier108 said:

justcallmeharry said:


Preferred pronouns are fee, fi, fo, fum.

Okay. This thread is now 'GOLD' level.....
pdc093
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Urban Ag said:

Owlagdad said:

These idiots are the off spring of the 60's children, whose psychiatrists told them they were fat because their parents made them clean their plate, so therefore their parents were not worth a sheet. Crazies can always blame someone.
My dad made us eat as a family almost every night and we ate whatever mom put on the table and you didn't complain and yes you cleaned your plate. And we went from skinny boys to muscled up and fit adult men.

And mom used real Crisco, you know, the white stuff in the can that I don't think Gen Y or Z even knows existed.


Yep. If we even LOOKED like we didn't want to eat whatever Mom made, it was:
"It won't kill you, and it'll make a turd".
Capitol Ag
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Regardless of what racist white people thought in the 1800's, being overweight and or obese is dangerous for most adults and science supports that. But, whatever makes these folks feel better about themselves. Apparently, they want people to believe that self-control is actually racist.
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Uh, yo fat girl, come here, are ya ticklish?
Yeah, I called ya fat, look at me, I'm skinny


Writings from the notorious white supremacist group Digital Underground…

stetson
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So, black slaves were obese?
FJB
Capitol Ag
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Her argument is that when slavery was abolished and African Americans started gaining rights, white supremacists sought to maintain old inequalities by demonizing black bodies and glamorizing thinness.

'This is really about maintaining systems of white supremacy and patriarchy,' she said on the show.
Except it's likely that most people in those times were nothing near overweight let alone obese. The key reason today for these ailments are that there is way too much high calorie, overly processed, low nutrient tasty food available at very low cost to consumers. It's pretty obvious when you walk into a local convenience store. That's where we have the health issue that we have.

Also, being in fitness, we live in a time that we have the Wellness division in fitness competitions. Curves are celebrated, she this person is flat out off and wrong and just doesn't want to teach her kiddos self-control and healthy eating and training habits. I get it. Losing weight can be very hard. But in the end, she is projecting her own insecurities onto her children. Hey, I am sorry that many choose to be fit, there by setting the bar higher than you'd like, lady. But no amount of whining about the existence of fit people and trying to pull the race card will stop others from choosing a healthy lifestyle to follow.

Also remember, last year a group tried to claim that gyms were a recruiting ground for white supremists. Yet over half of my gym is nonwhite so....
Easy 8
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Stay fat, liberals. In fact, get even fatter. You'll die sooner and the world will be better off for it.
Capitol Ag
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stetson said:

So, black slaves were obese?
Nope. Neither were people in Africa. They didn't have junk food. If there was a body dysmorphia connected to race in the 1700-1800s, it has no connection to why people are large today. At worse this is a case where even if there were evil intentions at the by a less educated group of people living a hundred+ years ago, being aware of one's body fat levels is very important for one's health potentially.

And don't get me wrong, being around fitness I have seen what a negative body image does and it isn't good. But that doesn't mean we need to celebrate healthy lifestyles...
Rex Racer
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Almost nobody was obese in the mid-1800's. That's so ridiculous.
Hungry Ojos
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usmcbrooks said:

I'm a white supremacist because I don't want to live like this? The mental health crisis in this country is the real pandemic.


Someone please help me understand how a person gets to be this big. Is there some kind of thyroid, medical issue that exacerbates this? Or is it 100% caloric intake. And if so, what does the diet look like for someone of this size. It's easy to say something silly like "triple whatburger meals four times a day", but is that really it? Something else has to be at play here. Right?
fc2112
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This is some kind of hyper insulin response gone wild. It could be due to a number of factors, Probably heavy sugar intake and no moving around whatsoever, causing massive insulin production which packs the blood glucose away as fat.

Good news for her is in a nuclear winter, when we're all starving to death, she'll be the last to die. She has a good years worth of calories packed away.
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Hungry Ojos said:

I've decided that the entire platform of the left is to avoid all personal responsibility and accountability destroy this country.
FIFY
LOL OLD
fc2112
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Rex Racer said:

Almost nobody was obese in the mid-1800's. That's so ridiculous.
Don't even have to go that far back. Video from the State Fair of Texas in the 70's shows almost no obese people.

One Eyed Reveille
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policywonk98 said:

By this logic, these countries must be world HQ of white supremacy.

Countries with lowest obesity rate:
Vietnam - 2.1%
Bangladesh - 3.6%
Timor-Leste (East Timor) - 3.8%
India - 3.9%
Cambodia - 3.9%
Nepal - 4.1%
Japan - 4.3%
Ethiopia - 4.5%
South Korea - 4.7%
Eritrea - 5%




I wonder why Ethiopia is one here with a bunch of Asian countries, note Eritrea is right beside Ethiopia
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A couple of more thoughts:

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Sole-Smith also cited the work of Sabrina Strings, and her recent book Fearing the Black Body. Strings argues that the modern aversion to being fat has nothing to do with health but is instead a way of using weight to perpetuate racism and classism.
'Her research talks about how, as slavery ended, Black people gained rights, obviously, white supremacy is trying to maintain the power structure,' said Sole-Smith.
'So celebrating a thin white body as the ideal body is a way to "other" and demonize Black and brown bodies, bigger bodies, anyone who doesn't fit into that norm,' she added.
Funny, b/c a lot of us white guys WANT to look as close to these guys as possible...









I guess these guys are racists...Or that lady needs to rethink her theories. Again, no one is saying we need to make overweight and obese people feel bad. Quite to opposite actually. But don't turn this around to say that we should not try to encourage people to be healthier and live healthy lifestyles. And yes, I am aware completely that the guys I put up were on gear. That's not the point. Of course they are the extreme and competitors. But the point is there are quite a few African American and people of color who are considered to have excellent bodies and are used in our society as examples of good health. This woman's off base big time.
Capitol Ag
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fc2112 said:

Rex Racer said:

Almost nobody was obese in the mid-1800's. That's so ridiculous.
Don't even have to go that far back. Video from the State Fair of Texas in the 70's shows almost no obese people.


Yup. And I am willing to bet that there wasn't nearly the amount of high processed, low nutrient tasty foods available like there is today.
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Capitol Ag said:

A couple of more thoughts:

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Sole-Smith also cited the work of Sabrina Strings, and her recent book Fearing the Black Body. Strings argues that the modern aversion to being fat has nothing to do with health but is instead a way of using weight to perpetuate racism and classism.
'Her research talks about how, as slavery ended, Black people gained rights, obviously, white supremacy is trying to maintain the power structure,' said Sole-Smith.
'So celebrating a thin white body as the ideal body is a way to "other" and demonize Black and brown bodies, bigger bodies, anyone who doesn't fit into that norm,' she added.
Funny, b/c a lot of us white guys WANT to look as close to these guys as possible...









I guess these guys are racists...Or that lady needs to rethink her theories. Again, no one is saying we need to make overweight and obese people feel bad. Quite to opposite actually. But don't turn this around to say that we should not try to encourage people to be healthier and live healthy lifestyles. And yes, I am aware completely that the guys I put up were on gear. That's not the point. Of course they are the extreme and competitors. But the point is there are quite a few African American and people of color who are considered to have excellent bodies and are used in our society as examples of good health. This woman's off base big time.
I'd love to be crippled like Ronnie.
Rex Racer
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fc2112 said:

Rex Racer said:

Almost nobody was obese in the mid-1800's. That's so ridiculous.
Don't even have to go that far back. Video from the State Fair of Texas in the 70's shows almost no obese people.


I can attest to that. I was in elementary school in the 1970's, and there were exactly 2 fat kids in my grade out of about 100 kids total.
APHIS AG
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So every problem that people have is not due to irresponsibility but due to either racism or white supremacy/patriarchy.

Liberals have finally found an excuse for their failures under one large umbrella, Society is "saved".
Cromagnum
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This is what Charles was trying to warn everyone about in San Antonio.

samurai_science
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ProgN said:

NPR's Fresh Air show says people's desire to be thin stems from end of slavery | Daily Mail Online


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A guest on NPR's show Fresh Air promoted the idea that the desire to be thin stems from white supremacy while discussing how parents should communicate weight with their children.

Journalist Virginia Sole-Smith appeared on the show on Tuesday to discuss her new book Fat Talk: Parenting in the Age of Diet Culture which includes the theory that fat phobia can be traced back to the end of slavery in the US.

Her argument is that when slavery was abolished and African Americans started gaining rights, white supremacists sought to maintain old inequalities by demonizing black bodies and glamorizing thinness.

'This is really about maintaining systems of white supremacy and patriarchy,' she said on the show.


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'The chronic experience of weight stigma... is similar to the research we see on chronic experiences of racism or other forms of bias,' Sole-Smith said.

Sole-Smith also cited the work of Sabrina Strings, and her recent book Fearing the Black Body. Strings argues that the modern aversion to being fat has nothing to do with health but is instead a way of using weight to perpetuate racism and classism.

'Her research talks about how, as slavery ended, Black people gained rights, obviously, white supremacy is trying to maintain the power structure,' said Sole-Smith.

'So celebrating a thin white body as the ideal body is a way to "other" and demonize Black and brown bodies, bigger bodies, anyone who doesn't fit into that norm,' she added.

Sole-Smith proposes that toxic American attitudes around weight can be combated by encouraging parents to normalize fatness.

Man I'm glad that my aversion to being fat has NOTHING to do with health. It turns out that I'm really just a white supremacist.


Chronic is the only word that she got right because it goes along with Chronic Kidney Disease, the main driver of which is diabetes and high blood pressure.
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usmcbrooks said:

Capitol Ag said:

A couple of more thoughts:

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Sole-Smith also cited the work of Sabrina Strings, and her recent book Fearing the Black Body. Strings argues that the modern aversion to being fat has nothing to do with health but is instead a way of using weight to perpetuate racism and classism.
'Her research talks about how, as slavery ended, Black people gained rights, obviously, white supremacy is trying to maintain the power structure,' said Sole-Smith.
'So celebrating a thin white body as the ideal body is a way to "other" and demonize Black and brown bodies, bigger bodies, anyone who doesn't fit into that norm,' she added.
Funny, b/c a lot of us white guys WANT to look as close to these guys as possible...









I guess these guys are racists...Or that lady needs to rethink her theories. Again, no one is saying we need to make overweight and obese people feel bad. Quite to opposite actually. But don't turn this around to say that we should not try to encourage people to be healthier and live healthy lifestyles. And yes, I am aware completely that the guys I put up were on gear. That's not the point. Of course they are the extreme and competitors. But the point is there are quite a few African American and people of color who are considered to have excellent bodies and are used in our society as examples of good health. This woman's off base big time.
I'd love to be crippled like Ronnie.
No argument there. But the point is, amongst many in the weightlifting/bodybuilding world, Ronnie in his prime was an ideal physique. Perhaps the best or right there with Arnold. How is it possible that people wanting to change their body's while idolizing physique athletes, many of whom are not white, are also being racist by not wanting to be overweight. It can't be both ways. The author is saying wanting to have a healthy body is a "white" ideal. Yet these arent white athletes.

Also, she is only really saying "thin". Yet, being in fitness, what really is thin? Sure, a girl shouldn't "want" to be thin. She should strive to be fit, eat better and be strong. There are so many health reasons why women should lift weights. Luckily many women are starting to see that. From fighting depression to warding off osteoporosis, women need to lift weights. It will also have the added benefit, with a proper diet, of actually giving them the body that they really want. Face it, if you are a woman and actually want to look great in a bikini after your mid 20s, you have to train with weights.Too many have thought that they could achieve it with just cardio, which isn't effective for fat lose and won't burn nearly as much fat as many think, and being dependent on fad diets that aren't realistic to stick to. It should go weights, diet and then cardio.
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Teslag said:

It's amazing that even after covid people are still pushing the BS fat is okay narrative.


That and the "no vaccines and only essential oils on my children" became "vaccine me harder daddy" it's very odd
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What she fails to acknowledge that before and after the Civil War, there was no "safety nets" of welfare and charity was handled by the church. Also, if people did not work, especially on their farms, they did not eat.

And the work was from before sun up to sun down.

People just did not get fat because they always worked it off.
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