TX Public Safety Groups back casino bill

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Verne Lundquist
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Are Patrick and his dummies still on their bs about not passing gambling?
texagbeliever
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I really don't want physical casinos. Legalize online gambling so that people don't have to do janky offshore accounts but I just think physical location gambling localizes the problem and puts excessive burdens on the surrounding communities. It is a cost casinos never have to pay.
HumbleAg04
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The Casinos are built already. Just waiting to move in the tables.
Athanasius
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Gambling is rotten to the core and hurts society- especially those more vulnerable economically.

Pookers
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Good opportunity to create a vegas 2.0 out in west Texas somewhere.
Cromagnum
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Athanasius said:

Gambling is rotten to the core and hurts society- especially those more vulnerable economically.




Taxes for the dumb.
Ol_Ag_02
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Freedom!!!! And I'll never step foot in one of them.
TheEternalPessimist
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Verne Lundquist said:


Are Patrick and his dummies still on their bs about not passing gambling?
Awesome. Let's make it easier for the poor to spend what little income they earn at casinos. All while providing social safety nets from free school lunches to ebt to WIC etc etc etc .....

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texagbeliever said:

I really don't want physical casinos. Legalize online gambling so that people don't have to do janky offshore accounts but I just think physical location gambling localizes the problem and puts excessive burdens on the surrounding communities. It is a cost casinos never have to pay.


Agreed. They also tend to attract crooks and thieves who rob you in the parking lot. Well at least in Philly they do...
Ag06Law
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Gambling has a unique ability to bring the paternalists out of the woodwork in a hurry.
Gator92
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I'm indifferent, but municipalities should get final say.

Also, don't pi$$ on my leg and tell me casino gambling will fund education and lower property taxes.

Signed,
TX Lottery
texagbeliever
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Cromagnum said:

Athanasius said:

Gambling is rotten to the core and hurts society- especially those more vulnerable economically.




Taxes for the dumb.

Then you get to pay taxes to keep the dumb alive. Everyone bares a cost to localized casinos. In the end the casino comes to dominate local politics, see hot springs Arkansas as an example. The churches care for the broke gamblers while the casino controls the city.
twk
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Gator92 said:

I'm indifferent, but municipalities should get final say.

Also, don't pi$$ on my leg and tell me casino gambling will fund education and lower property taxes.

Signed,
TX Lottery
This has been discussed previously, but the problem is that whatever limitations the legislature might put in regarding locations, none of that will apply to Indian tribes. As soon as you legalize casino gambling, we will have new tribe claims, and new tribal land claims, coming out of the woodwork, with the result being that rather than limited to a few carefully chosen locations, we have casinos all over the place.

The choice is between casino gambling pretty much everywhere, or no casino gambling, not between Las Vegas style resorts and no casino gambling. Living withing spitting distance of Oklahoma, where they have casinos everywhere, I think not having casinos is the better option. You certainly don't want to end up with some low rent casino operation next to your home or business.
AGHouston11
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Maybe just legalize it within 5 miles of all state borders !
Signel
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Don't need the nanny state to tell me not to bet. I am responsible. If you chose to be stupid with your money, that is on you. I'd rather have casinos and a revenue stream other than income taxes that might allow property tax relief.
twk
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Signel said:

Don't need the nanny state to tell me not to bet. I am responsible. If you chose to be stupid with your money, that is on you. I'd rather have casinos and a revenue stream other than income taxes that might allow property tax relief.
The revenue arguments for casinos are weak, and only work if you ignore the costs they impose. I understand the libertarian argument, and I don't care whether you gamble or not, but no one wants low rent casinos hurting their property values.
texagbeliever
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Signel said:

Don't need the nanny state to tell me not to bet. I am responsible. If you chose to be stupid with your money, that is on you. I'd rather have casinos and a revenue stream other than income taxes that might allow property tax relief.


Casinos are a value destruction industry. They don't create products they just create a way for an infinite (effectively) money organization to play a repeated game of chance against very finite wealth of individuals. Over sufficient time the winner is all but guaranteed. How does society benefit by this wealth transfer? Guess who now has the money to influence the local politics... the casinos.
oldcrow91
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Put them right next to Oklahoma/Louisiana/and Indian casinos. There is already gambling there. What would be the difference other than it would be Texas making the money.
BG Knocc Out
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Poor Oklahoma and Lake Charles if this ever happens. Lake Charles would be absolutely crushed. Almost everyone you come across at those casinos is a Houstonian or Texan.

I believe this would hurt Tilman Fertitta by rendering his Golden Nugget Casino/Resort and golf course basically useless...which is good reason to get behind it. F that guy. Two-faced mafioso POS.
Trajan88
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I learned a long time ago that casinos are places of state-sponsored, "legal" theft.

But hey, to each his/her own... maybe the result will prevent my taxes from increasing at a faster rate.
Four Seasons Landscaping
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Can't make a logical argument against them.

However, I do like having them far enough away that it requires effort to gamble. Feel like that's the best way, it helps prevents that spur-of-the-moment urge from costing too many folks their houses.

The most eye-opening experience I've had at a casino was the one time I managed to leave with a little over $5k. It wasn't even IRS reportable and they spent a solid 15 minutes making sure it was legit. That really shouldn't be a big deal for a casino but it made it real to me how few people actually win much.
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schmellba99
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A lot of holy rollers up in here. That's also why Texas has some of the dumbest liquor laws on the books too.

Few things will change, because the "this is the only thing I ever know and i abhor change!" mentality and crowd gets up in arms whenever any type of change is proposed. So the same old same old perpetuates.
schmellba99
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Four Seasons Landscaping said:

Can't make a logical argument against them.

However, I do like having them far enough away that it requires effort to gamble. Feel like that's the best way, it helps prevents that spur-of-the-moment urge from costing too many folks their houses.
Hint: those folks are going to find ways to lose their money no matter what. They have always existed, will always exist and no amount of Puritanism is going to change that fact. Especially with the advent of the internet.
Four Seasons Landscaping
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Somebody calling me a Puritan on gambling is one of the unintentionally funniest things I've seen in a while.
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E_TX_Ag12
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Casinos are legal in Louisiana.

I live in Louisiana. You don't want to be like Louisiana.
texagbeliever
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Yeah the let's be more like Oklahoma, Louisiana, New Jersey and Nevada seems like an odd goal.
TexasAggie_97
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Athanasius said:

Gambling is rotten to the core and hurts society- especially those more vulnerable economically.



So does alcohol and cigarettes. People will do what they want to do.
Ol_Ag_02
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TexasAggie_97 said:

Athanasius said:

Gambling is rotten to the core and hurts society- especially those more vulnerable economically.



So does alcohol and cigarettes. People will do what they want to do.


Woah, woah, woah. You can't expect these guys to give up their fifteen Miller lites per Saturday and four fingers of bourbon each night just because they think gambling is morally reprehensible.
texagbeliever
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TexasAggie_97 said:

Athanasius said:

Gambling is rotten to the core and hurts society- especially those more vulnerable economically.



So does alcohol and cigarettes. People will do what they want to do.

Crazy idea. Some states ban it. Some states don't. People choose where they live based on the state's social contract. Almost like our constitution was setup for such a thing.
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schmellba99 said:

A lot of holy rollers up in here. That's also why Texas has some of the dumbest liquor laws on the books too.

Few things will change, because the "this is the only thing I ever know and i abhor change!" mentality and crowd gets up in arms whenever any type of change is proposed. So the same old same old perpetuates.
Actually poster have raised several valid points:

  • Revenue projections have consistently fallen below projections
  • Costs are ignored
  • Impact on the poor and ignorant is ignored

Ol_Ag_02
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Shagga said:

schmellba99 said:

A lot of holy rollers up in here. That's also why Texas has some of the dumbest liquor laws on the books too.

Few things will change, because the "this is the only thing I ever know and i abhor change!" mentality and crowd gets up in arms whenever any type of change is proposed. So the same old same old perpetuates.
Actually poster have raised several valid points:

  • Revenue projections have consistently fallen below projections
  • Costs are ignored
  • Impact on the poor and ignorant is ignored




Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C. S. Lewis
texagbeliever
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So are you okay with strip clubs and ***** houses next to elementary schools? There is a line somewhere. Gambling as a state decision seems like a reasonable level for deciding that line.
Signel
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schmellba99 said:

A lot of holy rollers up in here. That's also why Texas has some of the dumbest liquor laws on the books too.

Few things will change, because the "this is the only thing I ever know and i abhor change!" mentality and crowd gets up in arms whenever any type of change is proposed. So the same old same old perpetuates.
Damn straight.. meanwhile half the holy rollers up in here are sinning plenty. Glass houses and all. Reminds me of the latest bust in Plano that had clergy and school district admins with *****s.

Meanwhile, I just want to play a few hands of blackjack maybe once a year to reduce my property tax burden.
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