https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-garage-worker-charged-attempted-murder-after-shooting-armed-thief

A guy pulls a gun on a parking on a NYC parking lot attendant. The attendant gets shot, disarms the criminal, and shoots the criminal. And that DA in NYC charges the victim.

They really are trying to criminalize self defense.

[Staff update: charges dropped https://abc7ny.com/nyc-parking-garage-shooting-attendant-murder-charges-dropped/13073071/ ]

Eventually folks are going to get tired of these DAs and judges that protect criminals and bad things are going to start happening to them. We cannot allow ourselves to keep evolving into a lawless society. And the powers to be seem intent on doing just that.

That is the way it works in Europe.

I think it's an eventuality. A repeated criminal is going to hurt (or worse) someone and the father/husband is going to hold the individuals in the criminal justice system accountable.

Outside of directly challenging the 2A, the next best thing is to make the ownership, possession, and use of firearms so absurdly burdensome that no one wants any part of it.

That is where we are at in the left's pursuit of dismantling society.

Unless there's more to the story I think the public outcry will be just as bad if not worse than the old man in the bodega. In Texas I don't believe a non Soros DA would touch this.

Texasclipper said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-garage-worker-charged-attempted-murder-after-shooting-armed-thief

A guy pulls a gun on a parking on a NYC parking lot attendant. The attendant gets shot, disarms the criminal, and shoots the criminal. And that DA in NYC charges the victim.

They really are trying to criminalize self defense.

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Sounds like Trump has a part time job as a parking lot attendant.

There is absolutely a concerted effort by the government, the DAs and the media to try to prevent citizens from taking matters into their own hands in response to this huge increase in crime plus no consequences.

Won't work. Like all communism, it fails because it doesn't understand how self interest works.

It totally makes sense. The shooter didn't fill out the proper paperwork to transfer the gun to himself. There was no background check performed, nor the 30-day waiting period. We have rules for a reason and he just blatantly violated them to steal the poor, innocent person's gun who was just trying to put food on his family's table. If we had real socialism then they wouldn't be forced by drumpf to have to rob from rich parking lot attendants to take care of their children.

RoadkillBBQ said:

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Eventually folks are going to get tired of these DAs and judges that protect criminals and bad things are going to start happening to them. We cannot allow ourselves to keep evolving into a lawless society. And the powers to be seem intent on doing just that.

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That's never going to happen

Stay out of NY. I didn't leave anything there and I'll never go back. What a **** show.

I have nothing in common with leftists.

Has this week not made it painfully clear that Dems stand with criminals and tell their victims they had it coming?

RoadkillBBQ said:

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Eventually folks are going to get tired of these DAs and judges that protect criminals and bad things are going to start happening to them. We cannot allow ourselves to keep evolving into a lawless society. And the powers to be seem intent on doing just that.

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I wake every morning hoping to hear someone went Kevin Spacey/Seven crazy on one of these DA's and hopefully without a gun.

The left has made a living defending the criminal and blaming the victim.

They don't want a civil, orderly, law abiding society. Chaos gives them reason and opportunity to expand control.

I am always wrong said:

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RoadkillBBQ said:

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Eventually folks are going to get tired of these DAs and judges that protect criminals and bad things are going to start happening to them. We cannot allow ourselves to keep evolving into a lawless society. And the powers to be seem intent on doing just that.

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That's never going to happen

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Hopefully your user name proves true!

The solution on the left is more govt control and expansion, even in cases of self-defense it seems. Very sad.

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The charges against Diarra for defending himself against an attacker come after a similar incident last year. In July, Manhattan bodega clerk Jose Alba was charged with murder after a confrontation in the store with an angry customer who attacked him behind his counter. Alba stabbed and killed the attacker in self-defense but found himself at the Rikers Island jail charged with murder.

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Above from the article linked in the OP.

The attendant was charged with attempted murder. If they're going to keep charging the victims with crimes then they need to create a statute that correctly identifies the crime. Maybe call it "attempted self-defense" or just "self-defense".

It should be noted that this is the same DA's office that just had Trump indicted. Anyone who thinks this Bragg POS is working for the constituents that elected him are fools

That national divorce thing is sounding better.

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If they're going to keep charging the victims with crimes then they need to create a statute that correctly identifies the crime. Maybe call it "attempted self-defense" or just "self-defense".

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This really would not surprise me at this point.

Sadly almost half the people in this country would fully support this happening.

I am always wrong said:

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RoadkillBBQ said:

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Eventually folks are going to get tired of these DAs and judges that protect criminals and bad things are going to start happening to them. We cannot allow ourselves to keep evolving into a lawless society. And the powers to be seem intent on doing just that.

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That's never going to happen

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Quit being a whimp.

How can anyone with a soul think this is right.

Ag_B_10 said:

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How can anyone with a soul think this is right.

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Dems don't have a soul.

j/k... sort of

Texasclipper said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-garage-worker-charged-attempted-murder-after-shooting-armed-thief

A guy pulls a gun on a parking on a NYC parking lot attendant. The attendant gets shot, disarms the criminal, and shoots the criminal. And that DA in NYC charges the victim.

They really are trying to criminalize self defense.

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A little misleading. They were both charged for the crimes they both separately allegedly committed. Once the original attacker no longer had the gun the law states that's where it should end. The victim becomes the attacker after firing the gun into the other man's chest.

"You're going to jail for not letting the criminal victim actually kill you."

Eff these leftist hellscapes and all the dumbasses in charge of them.

Texasclipper said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-garage-worker-charged-attempted-murder-after-shooting-armed-thief

A guy pulls a gun on a parking on a NYC parking lot attendant. The attendant gets shot, disarms the criminal, and shoots the criminal. And that DA in NYC charges the victim.

They really are trying to criminalize self defense.

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Bragg's legacy lives on

• A similar incident unfolded last year when a bodega clerk was charged with murder for fatally stabbing his attacker. District Attorney Alvin Bragg later dropped the charge after public pressure.

ETA: I was late, agent-maroon already pointed out the connection to Bragg

Are we allowed to look at this with a critical eye?

The parking lot attendant took the gun away from the attacker.

At that point, the attendant is probably no longer in an imminent deadly threat situation. So shooting the guy is no longer justified self defense.

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Texasclipper said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-garage-worker-charged-attempted-murder-after-shooting-armed-thief

A guy pulls a gun on a parking on a NYC parking lot attendant. The attendant gets shot, disarms the criminal, and shoots the criminal. And that DA in NYC charges the victim.

They really are trying to criminalize self defense.

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A little misleading. They were both charged for the crimes they both separately allegedly committed. Once the original attacker no longer had the gun the law states that's where it should end. The victim becomes the attacker after firing the gun into the other man's chest.

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Not misleading at all. It is stupidity that people of your political persuasion have brought to this world.

Ag_B_10 said:

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How can anyone with a soul think this is right.

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I bet it's much more complicated than the OP wants you to know.

Esteban du Plantier said:

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Are we allowed to look at this with a critical eye?

The parking lot attendant took the gun away from the attacker.

At that point, the attendant is probably no longer in an imminent deadly threat situation. So shooting the guy is no longer justified self defense.

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That sounds like a theoretical academic statement you'd find in a liberal law school.

The dude just shot the guy and showed intent to harm. Completely reasonable for the victim to still feel as if his life is in danger from the criminal and defend himself.

Any attempt to parse this as the victim now being a criminal is complete luncacy.

Esteban du Plantier said:

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Are we allowed to look at this with a critical eye?

The parking lot attendant took the gun away from the attacker.

At that point, the attendant is probably no longer in an imminent deadly threat situation. So shooting the guy is no longer justified self defense.

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You mean the attendant who was already shot and could pass out with a guy who shot him standing there to finish him off? Yeah, let's look at that situation critically…

I am always wrong said:

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RoadkillBBQ said:

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Eventually folks are going to get tired of these DAs and judges that protect criminals and bad things are going to start happening to them. We cannot allow ourselves to keep evolving into a lawless society. And the powers to be seem intent on doing just that.

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That's never going to happen

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I thought the same about many things a few short years ago.

Esteban du Plantier said:

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Are we allowed to look at this with a critical eye?

The parking lot attendant took the gun away from the attacker.

At that point, the attendant is probably no longer in an imminent deadly threat situation. So shooting the guy is no longer justified self defense.

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The absurdity of this statement. Good grief, man.

Step away from the internet and learn some empathy.

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Texasclipper said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-garage-worker-charged-attempted-murder-after-shooting-armed-thief

A guy pulls a gun on a parking on a NYC parking lot attendant. The attendant gets shot, disarms the criminal, and shoots the criminal. And that DA in NYC charges the victim.

They really are trying to criminalize self defense.

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A little misleading. They were both charged for the crimes they both separately allegedly committed. Once the original attacker no longer had the gun the law states that's where it should end. The victim becomes the attacker after firing the gun into the other man's chest.

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Another one who lives her life on the internet.

I suggest spending some time in reality every now and then. Maybe you wouldn't make such foolish statements in the future.

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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Are we allowed to look at this with a critical eye?

The parking lot attendant took the gun away from the attacker.

At that point, the attendant is probably no longer in an imminent deadly threat situation. So shooting the guy is no longer justified self defense.

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The absurdity of this statement. Good grief, man.

Step away from the internet and learn some empathy.

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Nothing to do with empathy.

I'm just saying some of you guys talk about how you wish self defense law was written rather than how self defense law actually is.

I, too, think the attendant shouldn't be charged. But this situation wasn't clean self defense.