You guys realize Tucker and Fox caved, right?

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Bonfire1996
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Before everyone thanks Tucker and Kevin McCarthy, there are a couple facts you guys need to understand:

1) Jacob Chansley was going to be released anyway. Prosecutors started the process in January, before McCarthy even theorized giving the Jan 6 footage to Tucker
2) After Chuck Schumer and other Democrats threatened Rupert Murdoch and Fox on the Wednesday after Tucker aired part 1 of his multi part investigation into the Jan 6 footage, you guys do realize Tucker hasn't shown a single minute of footage after the threat, right? He's talked about it, but no aired footage.

You guys need to understand that Fox, including both Tucker and Hannity, are ultimately controlled opposition. Hannity is fully bought and paid for, and only cares about his popularity versus what's good for America. Tucker has stronger America First ideals, but he did in fact bend the knee for the money in this instance. I just want to make sure you guys know this.
TexAgs91
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Good point. And it certainly isn't the first time <cough>2020 Election<cough>
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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BQ78
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Once you've seen one video of people walking between the velvet ropes you've seen them all.
Hungry Ojos
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Could it have simply been a determination that none of the remaining footage was relevant?
197361936
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I don't buy it. I doubt the accuracy of the opinion, and the validity of the story...based on everything I've seen since 2020.

Even if true who cares? Still straight ticketing R's regardless of who they are, untill something changes.
AgGrad99
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2) After Chuck Schumer and other Democrats threatened Rupert Murdoch and Fox on the Wednesday after Tucker aired part 1 of his multi part investigation into the Jan 6 footage, you guys do realize Tucker hasn't shown a single minute of footage after the threat, right? He's talked about it, but no aired footage.
Why is Tucker the one who was given the footage?

Has that ever been explained?

Release it. All of it. We dont need Fox or the DOJ to provide their chosen snippets...give us all the truth, and let us decide.
Bonfire1996
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Tucker promoted that they had "at least" two days worth of stories and videos to show in their investigation. Day 2 had a story and no video.

He and fox both caved
Bonfire1996
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Pluralizes Everythings said:

I don't buy it. I doubt the accuracy of the opinion, and the validity of the story...based on everything I've seen since 2020.

Even if true who cares? Still straight ticketing R's regardless of who they are, untill something changes.
oh I am too. But we need to stop supporting fox as the de facto voice of Republicans. We need to support more independent conservative voices
TxAgPreacher
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I believe that fox caved in a heartbeat.

Tucker has openly stated that he has a personal policy agaisnt badmouthing his employer. So I find it likely that he is not happy about it, but you could say that he caved. Fox wont let him air it, and he wont do anything about it as long as he works for Fox.
Gigem314
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I'm sure they have to stay within the bounds of their network to some degree. That being said....

1. The fact that Tucker released any of the footage let the cat out of the bag. Schumer can grandstand on the Senate floor all he wants, but Tucker accomplished his goal with the first release.

2. Hannity is anything but controlled opposition. People may not like his support of Trump or his style, but he criticizes Democrat policies non-stop...even more so on his radio show. The ones who spend more time criticizing Republicans are the controlled opposition, like Bill Kristol, not someone like Hannity.
captkirk
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I'm more concerned by a tyrannical government threatening a news organization than I am with that organization caving to the threats of a tyrannical government.
The Debt
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AgGrad99 said:


Quote:

2) After Chuck Schumer and other Democrats threatened Rupert Murdoch and Fox on the Wednesday after Tucker aired part 1 of his multi part investigation into the Jan 6 footage, you guys do realize Tucker hasn't shown a single minute of footage after the threat, right? He's talked about it, but no aired footage.
Why is Tucker the one who was given the footage?

Has that ever been explained?

Release it. All of it. We dont need Fox or the DOJ to provide their chosen snippets...give us all the truth, and let us decide.

Wasn't it stated that a GOP rep handed to Tuckers people?

I thought that was well known
Bonfire1996
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AgGrad99
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The Debt said:

AgGrad99 said:


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2) After Chuck Schumer and other Democrats threatened Rupert Murdoch and Fox on the Wednesday after Tucker aired part 1 of his multi part investigation into the Jan 6 footage, you guys do realize Tucker hasn't shown a single minute of footage after the threat, right? He's talked about it, but no aired footage.
Why is Tucker the one who was given the footage?

Has that ever been explained?

Release it. All of it. We dont need Fox or the DOJ to provide their chosen snippets...give us all the truth, and let us decide.

Wasn't it stated that a GOP rep handed to Tuckers people?

I thought that was well known
McCarthy I believe.

My question is why him? Why does he get to be the gate keeper?
The Debt
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AgGrad99 said:

The Debt said:

AgGrad99 said:


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2) After Chuck Schumer and other Democrats threatened Rupert Murdoch and Fox on the Wednesday after Tucker aired part 1 of his multi part investigation into the Jan 6 footage, you guys do realize Tucker hasn't shown a single minute of footage after the threat, right? He's talked about it, but no aired footage.
Why is Tucker the one who was given the footage?

Has that ever been explained?

Release it. All of it. We dont need Fox or the DOJ to provide their chosen snippets...give us all the truth, and let us decide.

Wasn't it stated that a GOP rep handed to Tuckers people?

I thought that was well known
McCarthy I believe.

My question is why him? Why does he get to be the gate keeper?

I don't see it as gatekeeping, rather just releasing the videos because the national narrative was "violent democracy-ending insurrection" rather than "LEO-aided tresspassing."
BMX Bandit
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how is letting Carlson decide what to show or not to show letting him be anything but a gatekeeper?

it all should be made public.
TxAgPreacher
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McCarthy should give it to an independent media source.

And we should pressure him to do so.
johnnyblaze36
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AgGrad99 said:

The Debt said:

AgGrad99 said:


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2) After Chuck Schumer and other Democrats threatened Rupert Murdoch and Fox on the Wednesday after Tucker aired part 1 of his multi part investigation into the Jan 6 footage, you guys do realize Tucker hasn't shown a single minute of footage after the threat, right? He's talked about it, but no aired footage.
Why is Tucker the one who was given the footage?

Has that ever been explained?

Release it. All of it. We dont need Fox or the DOJ to provide their chosen snippets...give us all the truth, and let us decide.

Wasn't it stated that a GOP rep handed to Tuckers people?

I thought that was well known
McCarthy I believe.

My question is why him? Why does he get to be the gate keeper?


Probably because he has the biggest audience in all of cable news and makes the left's heads all explode like no other and commands the most attention by far.
AgGrad99
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TxAgPreacher said:

McCarthy should give it to an independent media source.

And we should pressure him to do so.
Imho- He should simply release it to the public. No need for anyone to be a gatekeeper.

TxAgPreacher
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AgGrad99 said:

TxAgPreacher said:

McCarthy should give it to an independent media source.

And we should pressure him to do so.
Imho- He should simply release it to the public. No need for anyone to be a gatekeeper.




How would he distribute it? How would he release it? Normally he'd give it to Fox.
AgGrad99
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Probably because he has the biggest audience in all of cable news and makes the left's heads all explode like no other and commands the most attention by far
So release it to all the media outlets. Or put it on a server, and allow the public access to it.

Not sure why anyone, regardless of audience size, needs to the designated arbiter of what we see, and dont see.
The Debt
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BMX Bandit said:

how is letting Carlson decide what to show or not to show letting him be anything but a gatekeeper?

it all should be made public.

There are thousands of cameras and thousands of individuals involved, you have to focus on a select few instances to form a counter-narrative.

Maybe if all the news agencies were interested in exploring the videos it wouldn't just be one show that airs at 8pm doing all the work alone...
AgGrad99
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TxAgPreacher said:

AgGrad99 said:

TxAgPreacher said:

McCarthy should give it to an independent media source.

And we should pressure him to do so.
Imho- He should simply release it to the public. No need for anyone to be a gatekeeper.
How would he distribute it? How would he release it? Normally he'd give it to Fox.
ALL media should be allowed access to all of it.

Why a single personality/outlet? If this was ONLY given to Jake Tapper, and we only saw a few snippets of video, we'd all be ticked off, or at the very least skeptical of what was presented.

It should be public. That way we dont have threads, accusing fox and Tucker of caving.
TxAgPreacher
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AgGrad99 said:


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Probably because he has the biggest audience in all of cable news and makes the left's heads all explode like no other and commands the most attention by far
So release it to all the media outlets. Or put it on a server, and allow the public access to it.

Not sure why anyone, regardless of audience size, needs to the designated arbiter of what we see, and dont see.


They wont let him do that because of "security reasons"
YellowPot_97
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Anyone that would put any stock in left or right infotainment is an idiot to start with.
Gigem314
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Bonfire1996 said:



Not sure how that's an indicator of Hannity being a secret Dem.
The Debt
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Hannity seems like controlled-opposition.

"I'm a hard hitting newyawka who lost his accent to appeal to middle america and my criticisms are bland and boring to lull my viewers into complacency."
jrdaustin
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TxAgPreacher said:

AgGrad99 said:

TxAgPreacher said:

McCarthy should give it to an independent media source.

And we should pressure him to do so.
Imho- He should simply release it to the public. No need for anyone to be a gatekeeper.




How would he distribute it? How would he release it? Normally he'd give it to Fox.
Thinking there is some smoke to Bonfire's claim. In retrospect, McCarthy would have been better off giving the footage to Glenn Beck to distribute. Blaze doesn't answer to anyone but Beck, and he'd have no qualms about running multiple stories, then releasing the whole thing.
The Debt
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jrdaustin said:

TxAgPreacher said:

AgGrad99 said:

TxAgPreacher said:

McCarthy should give it to an independent media source.

And we should pressure him to do so.
Imho- He should simply release it to the public. No need for anyone to be a gatekeeper.




How would he distribute it? How would he release it? Normally he'd give it to Fox.
Thinking there is some smoke to Bonfire's claim. In retrospect, McCarthy would have been better off giving the footage to Glenn Beck to distribute. Blaze doesn't answer to anyone but Beck, and he'd have no qualms about running multiple stories, then releasing the whole thing.

The Blaze is a fraction of the exposure as FNC prime time lineup.

Plus you have the "fringe" dismissal of not being on a major network.
AgGrad99
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Tucker is not the issue. Neither is Beck, Tapper or Alex Jones, had they been chosen.

It's that they picked a single outlet to release it, instead of making it public to all (or at the very least, all media outlets).

If you want transparency, be transparent. Don't pick a winner, who gets to determine the narrative (for you). Allow us to see it and make up our own minds.
Gigem314
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The Debt said:

Hannity seems like controlled-opposition.

"I'm a hard hitting newyawka who lost his accent to appeal to middle america and my criticisms are bland and boring to lull my viewers into complacency."
Meh. It's the same argument people use against pretty much every talking head right of center. 'They don't do enough!' - ok, then who does?

Rush? He was also vilified to attack his credibility.

To me it's a wasted focus.
The Debt
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Gigem314 said:

The Debt said:

Hannity seems like controlled-opposition.

"I'm a hard hitting newyawka who lost his accent to appeal to middle america and my criticisms are bland and boring to lull my viewers into complacency."
Meh. It's the same argument people use against pretty much every talking head right of center. 'They don't do enough!' - ok, then who does?

Rush? He was also vilified to attack his credibility.

To me it's a wasted focus.

"I'm just a busboy and a roofa that found a microphone and I'm totally an everyman, by the way do you like Ruth's Chris Steakhouse?"
Artimus Gordon
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Name your fentanyl provider. MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, late night TV? I know what fox is. Y'all straighten out this other crap on tv.
happy days
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So, without any other motivation, doj was conducting routine review of Jan 6 files and decided hey, we did this guy wrong and we should release him.

Common sense tells me this is not correct.
richardag
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happy days said:

So, without any other motivation, doj was conducting routine review of Jan 6 files and decided hey, we did this guy wrong and we should release him.

Common sense tells me this is not correct.
You nailed it exactly.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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