That's the problem with randomly upending established conventions without any coherent process: you get chaos and nobody is sure WTF is going on and lots of errors result.
TexAgs_Classifieds said:NicosMachine said:Why doesn't a girl who wants to be a guy go by her "boy" name? She kept going by Audrey? That seems weird.TexAgs_Classifieds said:
I linked to the Washington Times article that makes the facts clear.
You are incorrect.
Audrey Hale info from a non-US search:
Take it up with the Washington Times. Maybe she hadn't legally changed her name?
Here is another reputable journalist asserting biological female.
Note that the older picture, with the certificate with the name Audrey, looks cheerfully female. The more recent photos, including the profile picture from LinkedIn, present a faux masculine appearance.BREAKING: Audrey E. Hale, the 28-year-old woman who identifies as he/him and uses the name "Aiden," is identified as the now-deceased suspect who shot up a Christian school in Tennessee, killing 6, including 3 children. The killings follow the state banning the medical… pic.twitter.com/Sp4RfGwcUj
— Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) March 27, 2023
The murderer was born female.
I am so confused. When a perp dies at the scene, doesn't take cops this long to figure it out.MouthBQ98 said:
That's the problem with randomly upending established conventions without any coherent process: you get chaos and nobody is sure WTF is going on and lots of errors result.
If the person was born female Audrey, the she wasn't transgender because she kept going by Audrey and acting like a girl until 2023. Here's her online portfolio. If you go look at old profiles, you will see someone named Aiden Hale. This is an f'ing dude until further notice.TexAgs_Classifieds said:NicosMachine said:Why doesn't a girl who wants to be a guy go by her "boy" name? She kept going by Audrey? That seems weird.TexAgs_Classifieds said:
I linked to the Washington Times article that makes the facts clear.
You are incorrect.
Audrey Hale info from a non-US search:
Take it up with the Washington Times. Maybe she hadn't legally changed her name?
Here is another reputable journalist asserting biological female.
Note that the older picture, with the certificate with the name Audrey, looks cheerfully female. The more recent photos, including the profile picture from LinkedIn, present a faux masculine appearance.BREAKING: Audrey E. Hale, the 28-year-old woman who identifies as he/him and uses the name "Aiden," is identified as the now-deceased suspect who shot up a Christian school in Tennessee, killing 6, including 3 children. The killings follow the state banning the medical… pic.twitter.com/Sp4RfGwcUj
— Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) March 27, 2023
The murderer was born female.
Quote:
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/nation/2023/03/27/nashville-covenant-school-shooting-female-shooter/11551363002/
Police identified the attacker as Audrey Elizabeth Hale, 28, a transgender man who was assigned female at birth.
That isFunky Winkerbean said:
I don't recognize who we are anymore.
NicosMachine said:
There is no way the media would deadname and misgender someone to this degree. It is literally against their rules. It has to be a biological boy.
The AP Stylebook recommends that when reporting on transgender individuals, journalists should use the name and pronoun that the person currently uses, regardless of their gender at birth or any legal changes to their name or gender.
And yes it does matter, because profiling works. Every single school shooter (or school blower-upper in the case of New London) in American history has been a man.Quote:
He/she/it, doesn't matter.
aalan94 said:
Guys, the media is all calling this person female. The media has one standard, approved by the Associated Press, and that is to call someone by their prefered, not birth, gender. Unless the media has all been misinformed, that is pretty much ironclad that this is a male to female person we're talking about.And yes it does matter, because profiling works. Every single school shooter (or school blower-upper in the case of New London) in American history has been a man.Quote:
He/she/it, doesn't matter.
They also don't call them Audrey if they are a boy. We've made the simplest thing in the world confusing. Does the shooter have a weenus or not?zgolfz85 said:aalan94 said:
Guys, the media is all calling this person female. The media has one standard, approved by the Associated Press, and that is to call someone by their prefered, not birth, gender. Unless the media has all been misinformed, that is pretty much ironclad that this is a male to female person we're talking about.And yes it does matter, because profiling works. Every single school shooter (or school blower-upper in the case of New London) in American history has been a man.Quote:
He/she/it, doesn't matter.
I'd agree, except for that those people don't use he/him and this person did.
Trans people are free to use whatever pronouns they want, according to their theology. They can be female and use male, male and use female, non binary, there are no rules. It is completely open.Quote:
I'd agree, except for that those people don't use he/him and this person did.
NicosMachine said:
Please vote "male" or "female". I say the Nashville is a male because he was born male. The press is confusing the issue every which way.
The shooter is identified as "Audrey Hale", and the press is calling it a "transgender female". That means "born male". Also, No way the press would misgender and deadname "Aiden". So that means this is a biological male.
What say you?
I actually laughed at loud.fka ftc said:
Thats what logic tells you along with applying logic to the family bio writings. But logic appears fungible at the moment.
Tucker has Trace on now. No update. Seemed to be leaning more to XX chromosomal composition.
This is worse than watching voting tabulations in Blue States.
— wyatt (@martsharter) March 27, 2023
aalan94 said:Trans people are free to use whatever pronouns they want, according to their theology. They can be female and use male, male and use female, non binary, there are no rules. It is completely open.Quote:
I'd agree, except for that those people don't use he/him and this person did.
— Pray for Reign (@PrayingForReign) March 27, 2023
redcrayon said:
I think maybe born female from looking at old pics on twitter.— wyatt (@martsharter) March 27, 2023
Quote:
Authorities have identified the armed assailant who killed six during a Monday rampage through a Nashville Christian school as 28-year-old Audrey Hale, a female identifying as male who authorities say once attended the school.
aggiehawg said:I am so confused. When a perp dies at the scene, doesn't take cops this long to figure it out.MouthBQ98 said:
That's the problem with randomly upending established conventions without any coherent process: you get chaos and nobody is sure WTF is going on and lots of errors result.
Which is it?