Is This a Boy or Girl? [Re: Nashville Shooter/Reports on Identity -Staff Edit]

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MouthBQ98
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That's the problem with randomly upending established conventions without any coherent process: you get chaos and nobody is sure WTF is going on and lots of errors result.
fka ftc
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Nothing short of an international tribunal performing a post-mortem chromosomal analysis will convince me at this point.

Or I will wait to Dave Chapelle to tell me the gender. He has a sixth sense on these things.
NicosMachine
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This person was calling him/herself Audrey this year. This person was pretending to be a girl. Here is a link to his/her portfolio dated 2023. This is not someone pretending to be a boy it is someone pretending to be a girl.

https://ahillustrations.myportfolio.com/home-1


fka ftc
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Tucker Carlson is on this debate and will be receiving a live update from Trace Gallagher.
HoustonAg2106
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TexAgs_Classifieds said:

NicosMachine said:

TexAgs_Classifieds said:

I linked to the Washington Times article that makes the facts clear.

You are incorrect.
Why doesn't a girl who wants to be a guy go by her "boy" name? She kept going by Audrey? That seems weird.

Audrey Hale info from a non-US search:

Take it up with the Washington Times. Maybe she hadn't legally changed her name?

Here is another reputable journalist asserting biological female.

Note that the older picture, with the certificate with the name Audrey, looks cheerfully female. The more recent photos, including the profile picture from LinkedIn, present a faux masculine appearance.




The murderer was born female.


The shooter was born male and pretending to be female
aggiehawg
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MouthBQ98 said:

That's the problem with randomly upending established conventions without any coherent process: you get chaos and nobody is sure WTF is going on and lots of errors result.
I am so confused. When a perp dies at the scene, doesn't take cops this long to figure it out.

Which is it?
NicosMachine
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TexAgs_Classifieds said:

NicosMachine said:

TexAgs_Classifieds said:

I linked to the Washington Times article that makes the facts clear.

You are incorrect.
Why doesn't a girl who wants to be a guy go by her "boy" name? She kept going by Audrey? That seems weird.

Audrey Hale info from a non-US search:

Take it up with the Washington Times. Maybe she hadn't legally changed her name?

Here is another reputable journalist asserting biological female.

Note that the older picture, with the certificate with the name Audrey, looks cheerfully female. The more recent photos, including the profile picture from LinkedIn, present a faux masculine appearance.




The murderer was born female.
If the person was born female Audrey, the she wasn't transgender because she kept going by Audrey and acting like a girl until 2023. Here's her online portfolio. If you go look at old profiles, you will see someone named Aiden Hale. This is an f'ing dude until further notice.

https://ahillustrations.myportfolio.com/home-1
jt16
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So pumping biological females full of testosterone makes them cold blooded murderers. Who would have though that
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Quote:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/nation/2023/03/27/nashville-covenant-school-shooting-female-shooter/11551363002/

Police identified the attacker as Audrey Elizabeth Hale, 28, a transgender man who was assigned female at birth.
NicosMachine
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There is no way the media would deadname and misgender someone to this degree. It is literally against their rules. It has to be a biological boy.

The AP Stylebook recommends that when reporting on transgender individuals, journalists should use the name and pronoun that the person currently uses, regardless of their gender at birth or any legal changes to their name or gender.
HoustonAg2106
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Media is intentionally making this confusing, they tried to get away with just calling her a woman but the truth is coming out now, it's a dude…they didn't want to have to say a trans person did this
BigRobSA
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Do a genetic test on its cadaver.
NonReg85
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Don't know either way which is absurd. But, early reports were that the murderer was a woman. I tend to believe that the cops killed her., walked up and saw that she was female. I'm not sure they had time to determine that a dead man had been identifying as a female that quickly.
ttu_85
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Funky Winkerbean said:

I don't recognize who we are anymore.
That is their goal. The WEF crowd
fka ftc
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Thats what logic tells you along with applying logic to the family bio writings. But logic appears fungible at the moment.

Tucker has Trace on now. No update. Seemed to be leaning more to XX chromosomal composition.

This is worse than watching voting tabulations in Blue States.
zgolfz85
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NicosMachine said:

There is no way the media would deadname and misgender someone to this degree. It is literally against their rules. It has to be a biological boy.

The AP Stylebook recommends that when reporting on transgender individuals, journalists should use the name and pronoun that the person currently uses, regardless of their gender at birth or any legal changes to their name or gender.



The police were pressured to come out and apologize for calling it a female earlier on and are not referring to it as transgender man. It's a bio woman transitioning to a male.
AxelFoley85
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Born a female so still a female.
fka ftc
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It wrote a manifesto so may it explains further what it is.
BTKAG97
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The more society enables and promotes mental psychosis, the more these kinds of tragic events will happen.
Muktheduck
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He/she/it, doesn't matter.

This was extremist left wing terrorism
aalan94
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Guys, the media is all calling this person female. The media has one standard, approved by the Associated Press, and that is to call someone by their prefered, not birth, gender. Unless the media has all been misinformed, that is pretty much ironclad that this is a male to female person we're talking about.

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He/she/it, doesn't matter.
And yes it does matter, because profiling works. Every single school shooter (or school blower-upper in the case of New London) in American history has been a man.
zgolfz85
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aalan94 said:

Guys, the media is all calling this person female. The media has one standard, approved by the Associated Press, and that is to call someone by their prefered, not birth, gender. Unless the media has all been misinformed, that is pretty much ironclad that this is a male to female person we're talking about.

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He/she/it, doesn't matter.
And yes it does matter, because profiling works. Every single school shooter (or school blower-upper in the case of New London) in American history has been a man.


I'd agree, except for that those people don't use he/him and this person did.
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Tumble Weed
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I don't think that I have ever been so confused on a texags thread.

NicosMachine
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zgolfz85 said:

aalan94 said:

Guys, the media is all calling this person female. The media has one standard, approved by the Associated Press, and that is to call someone by their prefered, not birth, gender. Unless the media has all been misinformed, that is pretty much ironclad that this is a male to female person we're talking about.

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He/she/it, doesn't matter.
And yes it does matter, because profiling works. Every single school shooter (or school blower-upper in the case of New London) in American history has been a man.


I'd agree, except for that those people don't use he/him and this person did.
They also don't call them Audrey if they are a boy. We've made the simplest thing in the world confusing. Does the shooter have a weenus or not?
aalan94
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I'd agree, except for that those people don't use he/him and this person did.
Trans people are free to use whatever pronouns they want, according to their theology. They can be female and use male, male and use female, non binary, there are no rules. It is completely open.
Viper16
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NicosMachine said:

Please vote "male" or "female". I say the Nashville is a male because he was born male. The press is confusing the issue every which way.

The shooter is identified as "Audrey Hale", and the press is calling it a "transgender female". That means "born male". Also, No way the press would misgender and deadname "Aiden". So that means this is a biological male.

What say you?




Just check Chromosome #23. Then everyone will know the correct answer.
Lex Talionis.......Ordo Seclorum
NicosMachine
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fka ftc said:

Thats what logic tells you along with applying logic to the family bio writings. But logic appears fungible at the moment.

Tucker has Trace on now. No update. Seemed to be leaning more to XX chromosomal composition.

This is worse than watching voting tabulations in Blue States.
I actually laughed at loud.
redcrayon
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I think maybe born female from looking at old pics on twitter.
zgolfz85
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aalan94 said:

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I'd agree, except for that those people don't use he/him and this person did.
Trans people are free to use whatever pronouns they want, according to their theology. They can be female and use male, male and use female, non binary, there are no rules. It is completely open.


Yes and that's just one of the billion problematic issues with trans. If this was still an active shooter hostage situation, what would police and media be saying? "Be on the lookout for an armed and dangerous ummm man, no woman, uh eh person?!"
NicosMachine
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spider96
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redcrayon said:

I think maybe born female from looking at old pics on twitter.




Transgender alum: Police say Nashville Christian school shooter was female identifying as male


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Authorities have identified the armed assailant who killed six during a Monday rampage through a Nashville Christian school as 28-year-old Audrey Hale, a female identifying as male who authorities say once attended the school.
4stringAg
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aggiehawg said:

MouthBQ98 said:

That's the problem with randomly upending established conventions without any coherent process: you get chaos and nobody is sure WTF is going on and lots of errors result.
I am so confused. When a perp dies at the scene, doesn't take cops this long to figure it out.

Which is it?


I thought on the long locked thread the Nashville police chief said it was a female shooter. But were they using female as in biological female or as in what they identified as? I wouldn't think police would care about what they identified as so guessing it was a female wanting to be a male.

Who knows.

It won't happen but I'd like to see the TN and national media called on the carpet for their lies about Tennessees new laws covering drag shows and other trans issues. They have been of course lying about what these laws mean and the media presents one side of it and as an outright attack on LGBT.

Media lies are much more culpable of creating radical extremists than guns which the Libs want to blame
fka ftc
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So we are now trending more XX than XY. We may need for the 9pm twitter feed to drop before we have a true indication of sex assigned at birth. Stay tuned.
Fightin2010
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So we can't deadname the dead?
 
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