Temper the crazy a bit? Eight months from please to get the shot or you're fired. How long do you think it will take next time? Do you understand erosion? Slow and subtle, but never stopping.

**** John Kerry. He'll graduate from earth to hell soon enough.

FBI watchers - please tell mr kerry to choke on my fat dick and then we'll talk about my range and truck.

You will own nothing and you will be happy. You will ride the bus and you will be happy. You will sweat during the summer and you will be happy.

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Some of us don't drive trucks because it's cool (which it is)... some of us drive trucks because they are required for work.

Anybody in the [construction] industry, any tradesman, etc. What a dumb and sick piece of **** this president and his puppet masters are.

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It used to be the case that only people who needed to haul stuff for a living (farmers, ranchers, construction workers, repairmen, etc.) owned trucks. Most people drove a coupe or sedan. Or a station wagon if they needed the room.

Then the the 1970's oil shortages hit, and the federal government decided to regulate fuel efficiency. So they created CAFE standards. But carved out an exemption for "light trucks", because those are essential work vehicles. People wouldn't ever buy a truck just to commute to an office desk job, right?

Except that they did. Car manufacturers took full advantage of the "light truck" loophole. They invented a new class of vehicle called the SUV. And marketed the hell out of them. Pickup trucks, too, were promoted to suburbanite posers who wanted the "hard working man" image that comes with a truck, without the "working" part.

In 1982, Ford's top-selling model was the Escort. In 2022, it was the F-150. The country's average private vehicle got 1000 pounds heavier. So if the goal was to save fuel, CAFE backfired spectacularly.

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How old are you and where did you grow up? I'm not going to deny that sales of light trucks have increased since the 70s, but my Houston neighborhood growing up in the 70s was littered with pickup trucks, Broncos, Suburbans and so forth and these weren't owned by construction workers or farmers. My father drove a pickup truck to work in an office every day until he retired starting in 1969.

Past due for another round.

If this all keeps up, I think you will see people keeping old appliances and doing whatever they can to fix them if they break instead of buying new. Same goes for cars. I know that's what I'd be doing because all of these regulations are causing the appliances to get worse quality wise.

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Some of us don't drive trucks because it's cool (which it is)... some of us drive trucks because they are required for work.

Anybody in the [construction] industry, any tradesman, etc. What a dumb and sick piece of **** this president and his puppet masters are.

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It used to be the case that only people who needed to haul stuff for a living (farmers, ranchers, construction workers, repairmen, etc.) owned trucks. Most people drove a coupe or sedan. Or a station wagon if they needed the room.

Then the the 1970's oil shortages hit, and the federal government decided to regulate fuel efficiency. So they created CAFE standards. But carved out an exemption for "light trucks", because those are essential work vehicles. People wouldn't ever buy a truck just to commute to an office desk job, right?

Except that they did. Car manufacturers took full advantage of the "light truck" loophole. They invented a new class of vehicle called the SUV. And marketed the hell out of them. Pickup trucks, too, were promoted to suburbanite posers who wanted the "hard working man" image that comes with a truck, without the "working" part.

In 1982, Ford's top-selling model was the Escort. In 2022, it was the F-150. The country's average private vehicle got 1000 pounds heavier. So if the goal was to save fuel, CAFE backfired spectacularly.

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While I love bagging on people who don't haul or go off-road, people can own a pick up truck because this is ****ing America, not because they need to for a particular reason.

Same reason any legal adult can own an AR-15, because while leftists try to say we don't need one, we live in America and that doesn't matter. (Though everyone should own an AR-15 because it'll keep the crooks on the streets and in the government more at bay).

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I'm pretty sure most of this doesn't affect anyone who currently owns things like gas stoves etc. Even in California its not retroactive. Its only on new purchases. Maybe temper the crazy a bit.

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What a short sighted, ignorant quote. So are you in favor of this significant government overreach to control the market and negatively affect consumers ability to make their own choices?

You should also respond to the poster that talked about spare parts manufacturing and the ability to continue to service units made before these continually growing and changing regulations have been put in place. Why should consumers be forced to by new due to government overreach?

stu = the ultimate goal-tender

They want to make the Free States less appealing hoping to stop the mass migration out of the Libtopias

"If we force them to keep the thermostat at no lower than 80 degrees maybe they'll rethink leaving us"

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How old are you and where did you grow up? I'm not going to deny that sales of light trucks have increased since the 70s, but my Houston neighborhood growing up in the 70s was littered with pickup trucks, Broncos, Suburbans and so forth and these weren't owned by construction workers or farmers. My father drove a pickup truck to work in an office every day until he retired starting in 1969.

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I'm 40 years old. Grew up in Deer Park and Pasadena (suburbs of Houston).

There were some people who owned trucks (including my maternal grandfather), but I don't recall them being the majority of vehicles. Not until the late-1990's era of cheap gasoline, anyway.

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/climate-czar-john-kerry-says-biden-impose-more-mandates-go-farther-inflation-reduction-act

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The Biden administration plans to roll out executive orders and climate mandates affecting automobiles and trucks to reach a 50% reduction in emissions by the end of the decade, according to Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry

During an interview with Yahoo News last week, Kerry spoke on President Biden's plans, but also on lifestyle changes people may have to make to reach net zero carbon emissions by 2050.

At the beginning of the interview though, Kerry was asked about Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, or IRA, noting that it is only projected to reach a 40% reduction in carbon emissions by the end of the decade, shy by about 10% of the president's goal.

"Well, we're doing a lot more than just the IRA. The IRA is a package that in and of itself can get the 40%," Kerry said. "But in addition to that, the president is issuing executive orders. There'll be changes on automobile, on light truck, heavy truck, heavy duty, a number of initiatives that are being taken by states, subnational, cities…

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In terms of electric vehicles, General Motors said by 2035 it only plans to make vehicles that operate on electricity.

Kerry was also asked about people who do not want to change their lifestyles for things like switching from gas to electricity for cooking.

"Unless somebody were able to provide that with zero carbon intensity, I mean, if you can do that. Now that's not doable today," he said. "So yes, gas at a certain point becomes a serious challenge here."

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Who's ready to become slaves to the elite because they've swallowed the climate bull*****

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-cracks-down-air-conditioners-war-appliances-continues

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The Biden administration announced its latest home appliance regulations this week, targeting air conditioners in an action it said would reduce the nation's carbon emissions.

The regulations, unveiled Thursday by the Department of Energy (DOE), finalize energy efficiency standards for home air conditioning units, or window air conditioners, and portable air cleaners. The DOE said the move would cut air pollution and push consumer costs down by billions of dollars via energy savings.

"Today's announcement builds on the historic actions President Biden took last year to strengthen outdated energy efficiency standards, which will help save on people's energy bills and reduce our nation's carbon footprint," Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said in a statement.

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Over the last several months, meanwhile, the DOE has introduced a series of energy efficiency regulations impacting various home appliances including gas stoves, ovens, clothes washers and refrigerators. Critics have blasted the rules as federal overreach and unnecessary given that the industry has improved technology without government intervention.

"What these mandates, what these standards do is enforce a level of efficiency that doesn't make sense," Ben Lieberman, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, told Fox News Digital in an interview last week. "And they compromise product quality. We've already seen this to an extent with cost of clothes washer standards."

"That's another problem this is a regulatory program that's very long in the tooth and you're getting to the point where clothes washers this might be the fifth time they've been regulated," he continued. "So we're really chasing after diminishing or nonexistent marginal returns."

A former senior DOE official previously told Fox News Digital that the Biden administration's actions would inevitably result in higher costs for consumers.


"Their philosophy is energy efficiency at all costs or energy efficiency no matter the cost," the official said. "That means we are going to see, as a result of their efficiency standards, higher-priced appliances. It's that simple.

"The reality is that we are not talking about saving huge amounts of energy from these new regulations."

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All you brainwashed climate change zealots, are you going to turn your AC off this summer? I suggest you should so you can experience the type of hell that your voting for all the rest of us.

[We understand hyperbole to prove a point, but some of you need to stop killing off people to prove your points. Find some better ways to make your points. - Staff]

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I'm pretty sure most of this doesn't affect anyone who currently owns things like gas stoves etc. Even in California its not retroactive. Its only on new purchases. Maybe temper the crazy a bit.

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Example #1,456,789 where a Democrat says:

"It doesn't impact you, you idiot rubes!"

And then just a couple of years later it's all normalized and it does impact me...for the worse.

Incrementalism. The de facto operating standard of the left.

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How old are you and where did you grow up? I'm not going to deny that sales of light trucks have increased since the 70s, but my Houston neighborhood growing up in the 70s was littered with pickup trucks, Broncos, Suburbans and so forth and these weren't owned by construction workers or farmers. My father drove a pickup truck to work in an office every day until he retired starting in 1969.

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I'm 40 years old. Grew up in Deer Park and Pasadena (suburbs of Houston).

There were some people who owned trucks (including my maternal grandfather), but I don't recall them being the majority of vehicles. Not until the late-1990's era of cheap gasoline, anyway.

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Different experience for me several years earlier in practically the same area that you grew up in. I went to Dobie high school.

I will add that Urban Cowboy probably had an influence on the growth in pickup usage and of course that movie was set in the area you grew up in.