Texas Education Agency to Assume Control of Houston ISD

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Rapier108
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2:52p, 3/15/23
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HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- After weeks of rumors and speculation across the Houston area, the highest official at the Texas Education Agency confirmed the state will be taking over the Houston Independent School District for some time.

"Ultimately, this intervention is necessary," Texas Education Agency Commissioner Mike Morath said.

Leaders at HISD received a letter on Wednesday morning notifying them that the TEA will temporarily take over the state's largest school district. The decision came following reported failures on the district level and multiple schools that have faced unsatisfactory grades for several years.
https://abc13.com/houston-isd-state-takeover-official-what-is-next-for-hisd-board-of-managers-commissioner-mike-morath-interview/12956975/

This won't fix the systemic rot caused by families who do not care about their children, and/or the serious lack of fathers in children's lives. No amount of money, reform, or care from the teachers is going to help most of these kids. Sadly, their futures are very bleak.

But maybe it will at least clean up the corruption that is rampant within the district when it comes to how they spend money. Wouldn't be surprised if some people end up going to prison once the books get audited.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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milner79
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3:08p, 3/15/23
Can TEA be authorized to take over the entire City of Houston? Maybe start with the corruption around airport concessions contracts?
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3:10p, 3/15/23
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Is control ever relinquished back to the locals once taken? This seems like the education version of the EPA Superfund sites, just a way to guarantee high salaries for govt. leeches without any hope of fixing the problem.
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3:12p, 3/15/23
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They should break it up into a few smaller districts.
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In reply to AggieGunslinger • 3:17p, 3/15/23
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Is control ever relinquished back to the locals once taken? This seems like the education version of the EPA Superfund sites, just a way to guarantee high salaries for govt. leeches without any hope of fixing the problem.
The TEA won't control HISD forever.

If I understand the takeover process, it is designed to remove the garbage at the top, most of whom are incompetent, corrupt, or both.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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3:35p, 3/15/23
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Hopefully the state can do this with the city and the county also. Lots to cleanup and lots of people need to see the inside of a jail cell.
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4:05p, 3/15/23
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Some conversation about it, though this thread doesn't include an article

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3365293
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4:05p, 3/15/23
We always hear about the importance of minority and women's in management…..so when the house of cards falls and there is systematic corruption I wonder who the administrators are and how many received their advanced degrees from a mail order program.

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In reply to milner79 • 4:28p, 3/15/23
milner79 said:
Can TEA be authorized to take over the entire City of Houston? Maybe start with the corruption around airport concessions contracts?
I laughed
Good one
Sadly, a good one.
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In reply to FCBlitz • 4:28p, 3/15/23
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We always hear about the importance of minority and women's in management…..so when the house of cards falls and there is systematic corruption I wonder who the administrators are and how many received their advanced degrees from a mail order program.

It's fascinating to see how many Ed.D's there are in school districts today, all requiring everyone to call them "Doctor So and So."
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In reply to PCC_80 • 4:31p, 3/15/23
PCC_80 said:
Hopefully the state can do this with the city and the county also. Lots to cleanup and lots of people need to see the inside of a jail cell.
The state of Texas can take over a city or county if the legislature decides it is necessary. The legislature could even dissolve a city or county completely, and either temporarily implement direct control from Austin (as in the capital, not the city), or merge it with another entity.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to EclipseAg • 4:35p, 3/15/23
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FCBlitz said:
We always hear about the importance of minority and women's in management…..so when the house of cards falls and there is systematic corruption I wonder who the administrators are and how many received their advanced degrees from a mail order program.

It's fascinating to see how many Ed.D's there are in school districts today, all requiring everyone to call them "Doctor So and So."
you mean like this

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In reply to EclipseAg • 4:36p, 3/15/23
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EclipseAg said:
FCBlitz said:
We always hear about the importance of minority and women's in management…..so when the house of cards falls and there is systematic corruption I wonder who the administrators are and how many received their advanced degrees from a mail order program.

It's fascinating to see how many Ed.D's there are in school districts today, all requiring everyone to call them "Doctor So and So."


That is Dr. Jill Biden to you, sir.

Administration has grown to the point where it's a job in and of itself without actually handling anything related to schooling. It's absolutely ridiculous.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 5:05p, 3/15/23
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But maybe it will at least clean up the corruption that is rampant within the district when it comes to how they spend money. Wouldn't be surprised if some people end up going to prison once the books get audited.
Yeah, I imagine there are some administrators and board members puckered up pretty good right now. Wonder how many papers get shredded and hard drives mysteriously crash over the next couple of weeks?

This needed to happen. It's the only hope of anything ever changing. It sends a pretty strong signal to other big districts to get their act together or else.
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5:11p, 3/15/23
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I guess all those out of state basketball games Booker t was taking finally broke them…
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5:21p, 3/15/23
They did this to La Marque ISD several years ago. Texas City eventually absorbed the schools.
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6:06p, 3/15/23
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Pretty sure a lot of the worst of the trouble makers are long gone. Doesn't mean they can't be tracked down, but I think a lot of changes were made several years ago in an attempt to avoid this.

Even with a LOT of improvement looks like TEA says it wasn't enough.
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8:51p, 3/15/23
I thought the STAR tests haven't been counting for the past several years.
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11:39p, 3/15/23
180,000 students
25,000 employees
“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
-Havelock Vetinari
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In reply to UTExan • 3:23p, 3/16/23
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180,000 students
25,000 employees
What would happen if they just dissolved it and redraw lines for adjacent districts to absorb?
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In reply to TxTarpon • 3:26p, 3/16/23
The scores and graduation rates in those neighboring districts would plummet and TEA would need to take over those as wells.

Seriously though, dissolving would be best. Pass out vouchers and let the parents and kids decide what to do with money. Then use border wall leftovers to fortify 610 perimeter.
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In reply to fka ftc • 5:05p, 3/16/23

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The scores and graduation rates in those neighboring districts would plummet and TEA would need to take over those as wells.
I used to live in SA.
They have 2 million people and like 45 (sarcasm, but not by much) ISDs up there.
Really?
Industry consolidation creates economies of scale, but NOT IN ISDs?
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Seriously though, dissolving would be best. Pass out vouchers and let the parents and kids decide what to do with money. Then use border wall leftovers to fortify 610 perimeter.
You are right.
I wonder if this would happen faster if we severed athletics from schools.
I am all for privatization.
Think about it. FKAFTC/Tarpon Sports Leagues would have the rule "Girls Play Girls and Boys Play Boys" thus eliminating all this trans-action. Non of this "government" rule creep.
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In reply to TxTarpon • 5:09p, 3/16/23
We used to teach kids at the local level, typically in one room per town / hood, and it included parental oversight, involvement and plenty of practical education such as cleaning stables, sawing lumber, and mending fences.

Local control of rearing children is a must. Protect against the parents who do not give a **** about their kids, and stay the **** out of my way as I raise my child. I am damn sure he and his mother are more than capable of raising him / her / they as a chronically misgendered fairy kitten paranormal anomaly all on our own.
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Local control of rearing children is a must.
Dude!! That sounds like that "it takes a village" stuff democRATS push.

Parents should rear their kids.

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In reply to TxTarpon • 5:14p, 3/16/23
It does take a village because **** happens and parents die or decide to do incredibly stupid, irresponsible things.

But a village is a collective community of support. Your village may be your family, your circle of friends, your neighborhood or your church.
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