Russian fighter jet collides with US surveillance drone over Black Sea

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TxTarpon
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But I visited Russia in 2018 for several weeks and I can assure you that our under-40 year old population is genuinely far more communist than theirs is. No exaggeration.
Is that why they all want to immigrate to somewhere else and not be in their military?
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Every time in this current situation I hear people refer to Russia as "communist" I have to wonder if they still think the Aggies are in the SWC. It's laughable.
It is laughable you think communist KGB types are not running the current Russia.
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Putin himself is every bit the murderous skid mark that most think he is, and I despise him, but it still makes me cringe when anyone tries to view this current situation through a lens that's several decades out of date.
Sorry Obama.
Joes
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TxTarpon said:


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But I visited Russia in 2018 for several weeks and I can assure you that our under-40 year old population is genuinely far more communist than theirs is. No exaggeration.
Is that why they all want to immigrate to somewhere else and not be in their military?
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Every time in this current situation I hear people refer to Russia as "communist" I have to wonder if they still think the Aggies are in the SWC. It's laughable.
It is laughable you think communist KGB types are not running the current Russia.
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Putin himself is every bit the murderous skid mark that most think he is, and I despise him, but it still makes me cringe when anyone tries to view this current situation through a lens that's several decades out of date.
Sorry Obama.
You're talking about the government; I'm talking about the culture and people. And if you want to limit it to just comparing governments then ours is still no better right now. Open your damn eyes.
GAC06
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But the Russians said it crashed on its own. They were lying again? I can't believe it.
fka ftc
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GAC06 said:

But the Russians said it crashed on its own. They were lying again? I can't believe it.
Well, it was still flying and was intentionally crashed by its US "pilots", so from a Russia perspective it did crash on its own.

Biden admin lies more in a day then Putin has in 25 years. Just let that sink in.
TxTarpon
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GAC06 said:

But the Russians said it crashed on its own. They were lying again? I can't believe it.
Pravda was so accurate.
So much entertainment back then.
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Here's a good wrap-up of what happened, with video. You can clearly see the damaged prop after the Russian flyby. COLLISION
TxTarpon
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You're talking about the government;
Yep. That is who is in charge breaking things and killing people right now.
Sorry, when guys with AKs show up, they are rarely liberators.

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I'm talking about the culture and people.
And mostly you are correct.
They no more want their current government than we wanted Obama or Sleepy Joe.
But in our case that can be changed with an election.
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And if you want to limit it to just comparing governments then ours is still no better right now. Open your damn eyes.
The US govt is destroying cities, killing civilians and busing them back to the US homeland?
Where is this happening?
J. Walter Weatherman
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fka ftc said:

GAC06 said:

But the Russians said it crashed on its own. They were lying again? I can't believe it.
Well, it was still flying and was intentionally crashed by its US "pilots", so from a Russia perspective it did crash on its own.

Biden admin lies more in a day then Putin has in 25 years. Just let that sink in.



The sad part is you actually believe this. Biden and the dems are clowns but nowhere close to as bad as putin.
Joes
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TxTarpon said:


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You're talking about the government;
Yep. That is who is in charge breaking things and killing people right now.
Sorry, when guys with AKs show up, they are rarely liberators.

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I'm talking about the culture and people.
And mostly you are correct.
They no more want their current government than we wanted Obama or Sleepy Joe.
But in our case that can be changed with an election.
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And if you want to limit it to just comparing governments then ours is still no better right now. Open your damn eyes.
The US govt is destroying cities, killing civilians and busing them back to the US homeland?
Where is this happening?
Well to be clear, I wasn't arguing that their government isn't bad and destructive, just that Russia is not a communist country, which is 100% accurate. Putin is simply a strongman, a dictator. He's closer to a drug cartel leader than any sort of ideological communist and even if he is the Russian population absolutely does not live in a communist system. It's nothing like China and North Korea or the USSR.

And even Putin himself is certainly no more truly communist than Obama's gang that are actually running our country behind the scenes. And they're a far bigger danger to us. You might as well have been saying in 1991 that we should go into Iraq because they're "communists". I mean, it's just plainly wrong unless you take a comical "everyone I don't like is a communist" view.

In regards to the US government, I guess let's review in the near future to see if they're at least partially responsible for creating the virus and lying about how it was released and that killed millions of people around the world and did untold amounts of economic and societal destruction before we start bragging that we're the good guys.

And as far as true communism, our own government in the last few years alone has arbitrarily shut down businesses, arrested people for going to church, held political prisoners for years, is hellbent on disarming the population and squashing free speech, is punishing successful people at every opportunity, only champions equality of outcome instead of merit, possibly (because I'm still a bit skeptical) orchestrated a fraudulent national election, has nearly the entire media as a state propaganda arm, and is doing everything possible to crush capitalism at every turn. And you want to worry about "communists" on the other side of the world that are not even communists?


You want more bodies? Our own government has openly enabled the flow of drugs into this country that's killing 100,000 per year minimum, not counting the additional damage. On purpose.

fka ftc
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

fka ftc said:

GAC06 said:

But the Russians said it crashed on its own. They were lying again? I can't believe it.
Well, it was still flying and was intentionally crashed by its US "pilots", so from a Russia perspective it did crash on its own.

Biden admin lies more in a day then Putin has in 25 years. Just let that sink in.



The sad part is you actually believe this. Biden and the dems are clowns but nowhere close to as bad as putin.
The really sad part is you DONT actually believe this. What I wrote is the truth and I could spend the rest of the day posting links to back it up.

How is what Biden doing not worse than Russia? At least Russia elected their guy and his antics are confined to his country.

Biden is destroying the greatest country there ever was in an effort for worldwide weakness, uncertainty, death, destruction of economy, destruction of morals. destruction of businesses, ignoring laws for D and politicking the DOJ against political enemies.

So somehow Joe is better by being worse amd by making us the direct victims?

You sincere delusion is noted.
J. Walter Weatherman
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fka ftc said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

fka ftc said:

GAC06 said:

But the Russians said it crashed on its own. They were lying again? I can't believe it.
Well, it was still flying and was intentionally crashed by its US "pilots", so from a Russia perspective it did crash on its own.

Biden admin lies more in a day then Putin has in 25 years. Just let that sink in.



The sad part is you actually believe this. Biden and the dems are clowns but nowhere close to as bad as putin.
The really sad part is you DONT actually believe this. What I wrote is the truth and I could spend the rest of the day posting links to back it up.

How is what Biden doing not worse than Russia? At least Russia elected their guy and his antics are confined to his country.

Biden is destroying the greatest country there ever was in an effort for worldwide weakness, uncertainty, death, destruction of economy, destruction of morals. destruction of businesses, ignoring laws for D and politicking the DOJ against political enemies.

So somehow Joe is better by being worse amd by making us the direct victims?

You sincere delusion is noted.


How is Biden worse than the person who has directly ordered the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people (that we know of) not to mention responsible for probably hundreds of thousands of his own soldiers in a pointless war, just in the last year alone?

Like I said, I have no doubt you believe that because you have an obsessive and weird hate for the guy, but it's objectively not true. Biden sucks but Putin is a murdering dictator who has his political enemies executed, invaded countries unprovoked and is an order of magnitude worse.
Robert L. Peters
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

fka ftc said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

fka ftc said:

GAC06 said:

But the Russians said it crashed on its own. They were lying again? I can't believe it.
Well, it was still flying and was intentionally crashed by its US "pilots", so from a Russia perspective it did crash on its own.

Biden admin lies more in a day then Putin has in 25 years. Just let that sink in.



The sad part is you actually believe this. Biden and the dems are clowns but nowhere close to as bad as putin.
The really sad part is you DONT actually believe this. What I wrote is the truth and I could spend the rest of the day posting links to back it up.

How is what Biden doing not worse than Russia? At least Russia elected their guy and his antics are confined to his country.

Biden is destroying the greatest country there ever was in an effort for worldwide weakness, uncertainty, death, destruction of economy, destruction of morals. destruction of businesses, ignoring laws for D and politicking the DOJ against political enemies.

So somehow Joe is better by being worse amd by making us the direct victims?

You sincere delusion is noted.


How is Biden worse than the person who has directly ordered the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people (that we know of) not to mention responsible for probably hundreds of thousands of his own soldiers in a pointless war, just in the last year alone?

Like I said, I have no doubt you believe that because you have an obsessive and weird hate for the guy, but it's objectively not true. Biden sucks but Putin is a murdering dictator who has his political enemies executed, invaded countries unprovoked and is an order of magnitude worse.


Don't kid yourself. The left would absolutely do what Putin has done if they had the power.
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fka ftc
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Again, your sincere delusion is noted.
Rocky Rider
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It's hard to forget what we lived through 2020 - 2022, but most Americans have a very short memory.
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J. Walter Weatherman
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fka ftc said:

Again, your sincere delusion is noted.


And your disconnect from reality is noted. As has been mentioned multiple times, it would probably be healthy for you to take a break from the internet.
fka ftc
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

fka ftc said:

Again, your sincere delusion is noted.


And your disconnect from reality is noted. As has been mentioned multiple times, it would probably be healthy for you to take a break from the internet.
It brings me joy to point out your terrible takes on a daily basis. Now quit derailing.
J. Walter Weatherman
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fka ftc said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

fka ftc said:

Again, your sincere delusion is noted.


And your disconnect from reality is noted. As has been mentioned multiple times, it would probably be healthy for you to take a break from the internet.
It brings me joy to point out your terrible takes on a daily basis. Now quit derailing.


Yes your thousands of posts about how much you hate Biden, the world is ending, etc. and calls to random distilleries in New Hampshire about anonymous internet message board posters just scream joy.
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If this was Mexican Cartel we would already have pictures of those pilots face down being sternly reprimanded. Quaking in fear from Scranton Joey and his band of straight razor thugs.

Putin? Not so much.

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TxTarpon
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Well to be clear, I wasn't arguing that their government isn't bad and destructive, just that Russia is not a communist country, which is 100% accurate. Putin is simply a strongman, a dictator.

From 2018:
[url=https://www.newsweek.com/putin-says-communism-comes-bible-compares-lenin-saint-781328][/url]
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Putin Says Communism Comes From the Bible, Compares Lenin to a Saint
Russian President Vladimir Putin has compared Vladimir Lenin to a saint and declared that Soviet communist ideas come from the Bible.
Same authoritarian flavor, different lipstick on that pig.

Or do you wax nostalgic for the "good ole days" of the "central committee" vs the contemporary "circle of oligarchs"?
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It's nothing like China and North Korea or the USSR.
China and North Korea are not the same.
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And they're a far bigger danger to us.
Those controlling the Wagner Group is more dangerous than BLM/Obongo.
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You might as well have been saying in 1991 that we should go into Iraq because they're "communists".
Sorry, that is not even close to be correct.
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In regards to the US government,
I was very specific. You don't have an answer and are crawfishing.
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You want more bodies? Our own government has openly enabled the flow of drugs into this country that's killing 100,000 per year minimum, not counting the additional damage. On purpose.
And the CIA brought it in so Freeway Rick Ross could sell it, right?


We get it. You went to Russia for a chick, found nice people.
No one faults you for that. Great you took the risk, went exploring and found great people.


Putin invokes the Soviet mystique.

It was a mob state then, it is a mob state now.
Some mobsters in charge.
They are not promoting free market capitalism and freedom.
Joes
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You keep emphasizing that Putin and his government are bad and I have no disagreement with you, he's a murderous monster. But Russia is not a communist country. "But the guy running it admires Lenin!" doesn't change that.
 
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