Biden's 2024 Budget Plan

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-budget-would-cut-deficits-by-3-trillion-over-10-years-raise-taxes-on-businesses-b5081d03?st=wdgc3vldc124vuq&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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President Biden will outline a plan to reduce federal budget deficits by nearly $3 trillion over the next decade and raise taxes on wealthy people and large corporations, kicking off monthslong spending negotiations with Republicans in Congress.

Love the sentiment; no way this happens. 85%? Goodness.
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House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has said Republicans will seek to eliminate the annual budget deficit. If lawmakers take raising taxes and cutting Medicare, Social Security, defense and veterans programs off the table, Congress would need to cut 85% of spending in all other categories to balance the budget in 10 years, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonpartisan group that advocates for reducing federal deficits.

Ukraine about to get paid.
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Mr. Biden is expected to call for a defense budget of more than $835 billion, according to people familiar with the matter. That is a higher recommended defense budget than last year's request, against a backdrop of the conflict in Ukraine and rising tensions with China.

Rich people to get soaked.
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For instance, the budget is expected to include a plan to impose minimum taxes on very wealthy Americans, who often pay little in taxes if they don't sell their investments and realize income. That tax would be 25%, up from last year's 20% proposal.

Other tax-increase proposals include new limits on wealthy people's tax-advantaged retirement accounts and higher tax rates on private-equity managers' carried-interest income.

As he has before, Mr. Biden will propose raising the top individual tax rate to 39.6% from 37% and taxing top earners' capital gains at higher rates.

Corporate America gets more taxes which means you pay higher prices.
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He has said he would call for quadrupling the 1% tax on stock buybacks that took effect in January, which the White House has said would encourage companies to invest in their growth instead of boosting shareholders and higher levies on oil-and-gas companies.

...raising the corporate tax rate to 28% from 21% and increasing taxes on U.S. companies' foreign profits.

Sneaky m'fer right here with his Medicare tax expansion.
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Mr. Biden will propose changes the White House says would extend the solvency of Medicare's hospital-insurance fund by at least 25 years. That would involve raising Medicare taxes to 5% from 3.8% for people earning more than $400,000 a year and effectively expanding the reach of the tax so it applies to business income as well as investments, wages and self-employment income. Mr. Biden would also redirect some existing taxes from the government's general fund to a Medicare fund.

More federal indoctrination programs to get people hooked on government and Democrat policies.
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Mr. Biden is also planning to revive policy initiatives from prior years, including measures to expand child care and fund a universal prekindergarten program. The budget will propose more than $22 billion for the Department of Health and Human Services' early-care and education programs, as well as $13.1 billion for Head Start, both increases from last year's enacted budget levels, White House officials said.

Bottom line: it's laughable to anyone with a brain that he's going to cut the deficit by $3T while increase spending the way he proposes. The former savings are mythical or overstated by multiple factors as always and the latter once implemented never end and only grow.
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YouBet said:


Bottom line: it's laughable to anyone with a brain that he's going to cut the deficit by $3T while increase spending the way he proposes. The former savings are mythical or overstated by multiple factors as always and the latter once implemented never end and only grow.
Looks into crystal ball:

Well, Biden would have made these cuts if the obstructionist Republicans wouldn't have actively prevented them.

Puts down crystal ball.
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"I don't like the government taking more money, but Biden is like…a bridge builder and stuff. So it's okay."
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What a ridiculous plan. The government can't save money by increasing spending.

Taxes aren't income. They aren't revenue. It's not like a family that receives a 20% bonus. It's just doesn't fundamentally work that way.

Who the f are these idiots.
Old May Banker
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Taxing unrealized gains is pure evil.
riverrataggie
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Old May Banker said:

Taxing unrealized gains is pure evil.


How is this even possible? Does the government write me a six figure check for the 10-15% loss in assets?
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Frederick Palowaski said:

"I don't like the government taking more money, but Biden is like…a bridge builder and stuff. So it's okay."
That was a hilarious admission that some people clearly use their emotions to form their political justifications rather than their brain.
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Agreed... if you want to tax my unrealized gains, I should be able to deduct my unrealized losses.
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Honestly I'd just remove anything from the market and put it all into real estate.

This would crater the market.
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"Taxing the rich"


Anyone w half a brain knows the rich don't pay taxes


This is yet another attack on the middle class


They know the solution is to stop spending…. They just can't help themselves bc we've allowed them to steal from us for so long
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riverrataggie said:

Honestly I'd just remove anything from the market and put it all into real estate.

This would crater the market.
And they were originally trying to do this to everyone and not just the wealthy. Yellin was calling for this during her confirmation hearing and still got confirmed. It would absolutely destroy the market.

Marxist morons.
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raise taxes on wealthy people

Democrats... TAX THE RICH

Me... Define who is rich

Democrats... (smiling) TAX THE PEOPLE WE DEFINE AS RICH.

Me That is what I thought.
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Biden's plan? More like the 'establishment' plan. Dude can't put two and two together.
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The top 1% pay 42% of US income taxes.

They would love to pay their fair share instead of paying their fair share and all the Biden voters fair share too!
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riverrataggie said:

What a ridiculous plan. The government can't save money by increasing spending.

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Thank god republicans control the house 90% of this won't see the light of day
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riverrataggie said:

What a ridiculous plan. The government can't save money by increasing spending.

Taxes aren't income. They aren't revenue. It's not like a family that receives a 20% bonus. It's just doesn't fundamentally work that way.

Who the f are these idiots.


Marxists.
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Old May Banker said:

Taxing unrealized gains is pure evil.
Yep, just like the property tax.
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pfo said:

The top 1% pay 42% of US income taxes.

They would love to pay their fair share instead of paying their fair share and all the Biden voters fair share too!
I think that was from Trump's last year. Funny how the rich paid more taxes under him.
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riverrataggie said:

Old May Banker said:

Taxing unrealized gains is pure evil.


How is this even possible? Does the government write me a six figure check for the 10-15% loss in assets?
You poor dumb soul....it's the government. Since you are rich enough to have 10-15% losses, you need to be taxed even harder.
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Old May Banker said:

Taxing unrealized gains is pure evil.


No crap. Also it's absolute brain dead level stupid. What's gonna happen to the market every March when people dump stock to cover their extra taxes incurred due to the unrealized gains.

Stock dumping floods the market, reducing the stock's value, wiping out any unrealized gains people offloaded stock to pay for to begin with.
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Frederick Palowaski said:

"I don't like the government taking more money, but Biden is like…a bridge builder and stuff. So it's okay."
I didn't read the article. Did someone actually say that?
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Other tax-increase proposals include new limits on wealthy people's tax-advantaged retirement accounts and higher tax rates on private-equity managers' carried-interest income.

As he has before, Mr. Biden will propose raising the top individual tax rate to 39.6% from 37% and taxing top earners' capital gains at higher rates.
These are the most insidious ones.

They aren't even hiding that they are going after 401k's, it's pretty much part of their platform. They see all of that money sitting in investment accounts and start jerking it thinking of ways they can confiscate your retirement and keep you and me under the thumb and working in the fields in perpetuity.

"Wealthy people" - this has no definition. Much like the tides, it will change based on whatever is politically convenient.

Those communist pendejos touch the retirement I have scrapped and fought to save and it will get ugly. And I guarantee you I'm not alone. I already am fooked with SS and have no choice because if I don't pay into the ponzi scheme, they throw the full force of the law against me. Touch my 401k and there won't be much to lose anymore, and angry desperate people are not what the government really wants, but that is what they will get. But then again, that may be exactly the plan and likely is.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Old May Banker said:

Taxing unrealized gains is pure evil.


No crap. Also it's absolute brain dead level stupid. What's gonna happen to the market every March when people dump stock to cover their extra taxes incurred due to the unrealized gains.

Stock dumping floods the market, reducing the stock's value, wiping out any unrealized gains people offloaded stock to pay for to begin with.
What is going to end up happening is that people will stop putting money into the market and find vehicles that can shelter their money better. Hell, a whole bunch will go for precious metals and bury it in their back yards.

We will see a run on banks and the market will tank in a very, very bad way IMO.
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jja79 said:

Frederick Palowaski said:

"I don't like the government taking more money, but Biden is like…a bridge builder and stuff. So it's okay."
I didn't read the article. Did someone actually say that?


See this thread.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3366211
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Other tax-increase proposals include new limits on wealthy people's tax-advantaged retirement accounts


This isn't "The Rich." These are the main savings vehicle for most of middle class America.

You damned, filthy Marxists should all be.......
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schmellba99 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Old May Banker said:

Taxing unrealized gains is pure evil.


No crap. Also it's absolute brain dead level stupid. What's gonna happen to the market every March when people dump stock to cover their extra taxes incurred due to the unrealized gains.

Stock dumping floods the market, reducing the stock's value, wiping out any unrealized gains people offloaded stock to pay for to begin with.
What is going to end up happening is that people will stop putting money into the market and find vehicles that can shelter their money better. Hell, a whole bunch will go for precious metals and bury it in their back yards.

We will see a run on banks and the market will tank in a very, very bad way IMO.


I could see taking money out of the market also being a logical step to combat this stupid idea. Let's see… now it goes into real estate, skyrocketing home prices. Government next step, taxing unrealized gains on investment property.

I hate government.
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jja79 said:

Frederick Palowaski said:

"I don't like the government taking more money, but Biden is like…a bridge builder and stuff. So it's okay."
I didn't read the article. Did someone actually say that?
[url=https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3366211/replies/64424983]I'd rather vote for a bridge builder, given the choice.... I didn't vote for Biden so much as I voted against Trump[/url]

It would be quite comical the amount of hoop jumping and blinders people wear when basing political views on emotion rather than facts, but instead it's a little frustrating knowing that those people are actively contributing to the downward spiral of this great country.
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raise taxes on wealthy people and large corporations
80% of humans in the country are dumber than dog **** and incapable of self governance.
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And covid confirms this.

Roughly 80% of people are brain dead NPCs
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jja79 said:

pfo said:

The top 1% pay 42% of US income taxes.

They would love to pay their fair share instead of paying their fair share and all the Biden voters fair share too!
I think that was from Trump's last year. Funny how the rich paid more taxes under him.
Yeah, and it's been at least 37% since 2000. That's twenty three years for the mathematically disinclined who vote Democrat.

The rich pay a higher share of the taxes than ever before yet the Democrats continue their most incessant lie that the rich don't pay their fair share. It's the most blatant and provable lie they make yet the national Dems parrot and the LIV Dem voters lap it up.

The top 5% now pay 63% of taxes. The bottom half of the country are free loading leeches who have no skin in the game. Shouldn't even be voting.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

schmellba99 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Old May Banker said:

Taxing unrealized gains is pure evil.


No crap. Also it's absolute brain dead level stupid. What's gonna happen to the market every March when people dump stock to cover their extra taxes incurred due to the unrealized gains.

Stock dumping floods the market, reducing the stock's value, wiping out any unrealized gains people offloaded stock to pay for to begin with.
What is going to end up happening is that people will stop putting money into the market and find vehicles that can shelter their money better. Hell, a whole bunch will go for precious metals and bury it in their back yards.

We will see a run on banks and the market will tank in a very, very bad way IMO.


I could see taking money out of the market also being a logical step to combat this stupid idea. Let's see… now it goes into real estate, skyrocketing home prices. Government next step, taxing unrealized gains on investment property.

I hate government.


They wouldn't even need to take that step. If they say they are taxing unrealized gains then that means all your property and capital are subject to it.

Any sale of property you already report on Form 4797 (including real estate, and metals), the new tax would apply to anything you report on that form.

You wouldn't have anywhere to hide your money and defer tax. The only option you'd have to pay LESS tax would be to hold it in a savings account and pay tax on the paltry interest. Nobody is going to do that.

I imagine what would happen is that at first this new unrealized gain tax would only apply to people who have "investments" over a certain threshold.
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