Source? Case references?

The President doesn't need to invoke the immunity until it is needed. His lawyers do not need to argue it until that point, so that is not validation.

I am not wrong. I could be wrong, but its most certainly not settled science.

I sitting POTUS could roll up and shoot anyone in the middle of Times Square. You would have to prove that he knew and acted against his oath of office and even then the remedy / process is impeachment.

Unless you can find a case where a President has been held criminally or civilly responsible for conduct occurring whilst in office, then we must agree to disagree.

I admit my take is not a popular one, but its a direct one based on the US Constitution. And allowing a POTUS to be civilly or criminally liable for acts that they may consider in line with their official duties is a most dangerous step in our short history as a Country.

Respect you have a different view, but unless you have further info I do not believe you can state I am "wrong".

Yet, I still can't file a lawsuit for having the jab forced on me.

Without a doubt, Trump either failed to recognize the potential for mob violence and therefore, did nothing to prevent it, OR he knew what he was doing and didn't care.

Either way, it's his leadership failure to own, but I don't agree with allowing him to be sued for it.

Trident 88 said:

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Without a doubt, Trump either failed to recognize the potential for mob violence and therefore, did nothing to prevent it, OR he knew what he was doing and didn't care.

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Bull***** And we still don't know how many in the crowd were paid government agitators.

We do know that Trump tried to provide more security but Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell refused to do so multiple times.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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And we still don't know how many in the crowd were paid government agitators.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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And we still don't know how many in the crowd were paid government agitators.

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SMH in disbelief.

Me, too.

Trident 88 said:

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Without a doubt, Trump either failed to recognize the potential for mob violence and therefore, did nothing to prevent it, OR he knew what he was doing and didn't care.

Either way, it's his leadership failure to own, but I don't agree with allowing him to be sued for it.

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So can we sue Pelosi too since she denied additional security? Or how about Wray since the FBI boys were there but didn't intervene (likely instigated)

Where did I say Trump should be sued? Pretty sure I said the exact opposite, but let me check…

Yep. Reading is fundamental.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Who in history has been gone after longer and harder than Trump?

We going on 8-years of them going full tilt after one guy. Crazy to think about.

Only analogy I can think of is where they exiled Napoleon to one one the most remote places in the world to live out his life on Saint Helena island off the coast of Africa.

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Because he is the biggest threat to their agenda.

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Me, too.

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So you DO know how many in the crowd were government agitators? If so, you know more than Congress on the matter.

Holy **** I cannot even understand that meme its so terrible.

Reminds never to click the unblock button on your posts.

Woof.

Why are you so mad? You don't like Ben Garrison cartoons?

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Me, too.

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So you DO know how many in the crowd were government agitators? If so, you know more than Congress on the matter.

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It's a moot point. I know there were plenty of PROVEN agitators in the crowd who were Trumpers.

I am in a great mood watching Kayleigh drag her wit & knowledge balls across the chin of Jessica Tarlov. Quite entertaining.

Trident 88 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Trident 88 said:

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Me, too.

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So you DO know how many in the crowd were government agitators? If so, you know more than Congress on the matter.

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It's a moot point. I know there were plenty of PROVEN agitators in the crowd who were Trumpers.

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If the whole episode was created as a "trap," and neither of us know that it wasn't, it isn't a moot point.

I know that people spent a long time in jail for doing nothing more than walking through a door opened by police. Why?

You don't know what moot means, and I'm done wasting time on your conspiracy theories.

Enjoy your bubble.

Trident 88 said:

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You don't know what moot means, and I'm done wasting time on your conspiracy theories.

Enjoy your bubble.

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There's only one nut in this conversation. It ain't me...

Trident 88 said:

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You don't know what moot means, and I'm done wasting time on your conspiracy theories.

Enjoy your bubble.

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I know what moot means. Its latin for airplane conveyor belt.

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I'm so sick of the lie that Trump incited a riot.

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Sick because he didn't incite it or sick because it wasn't a riot?

Trumpists too ignorant to realize that THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE LEFT WANTS

for Trumpists to put back up the one guy where EVERY SINGLE DAY will be spent debating January 6

and not the failures of Joe Biden.

good job~!

a better group of Manchurian candidates could never be produced.

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CDUB98 said:

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I'm so sick of the lie that Trump incited a riot.

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Sick because he didn't incite it or sick because it wasn't a riot?

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I posted this on another thread, but it seems relevant here too.

Watch around the 8:36 min mark, and you can clearly see that this looks like an operation by the fbi to incite people to violence against the federal government. Ashley Babbitt was among the people near the front who were being urged to go into the capitol by undercover agents highlighted in photos.

Seems like that should help Trump's case.

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Democrats and the people that vote for them are just disgusting human beings. There is no other way to explain their behavior. They have zero ethical or moral boundaries whatsoever.

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If I may, I would like to clear this up a bit.

DemocRat politicians are human garbage, and disgusting human beings. The people that vote for them are either the same, or just plain Useful Idiots. Both have zero ethical or moral boundaries whatsoever.

Trident 88 said:

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Without a doubt, Trump either failed to recognize the potential for mob violence and therefore, did nothing to prevent it, OR he knew what he was doing and didn't care.

Either way, it's his leadership failure to own, but I don't agree with allowing him to be sued for it.

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Without a doubt Trump offered National Guard forces that were refused by Pelosi, who was in charge of security at Congress.

Pelosi refusal to supply adequate security is on her and the Democrat leadership that controlled her more so than Trump, who specifically asked for peaceful protest.

AggieZUUL said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Who in history has been gone after longer and harder than Trump?

We going on 8-years of them going full tilt after one guy. Crazy to think about.

Only analogy I can think of is where they exiled Napoleon to one one the most remote places in the world to live out his life on Saint Helena island off the coast of Africa.

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Because he is the biggest threat to their agenda.

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Does Peggy Noonan from WSJ read texags?

Hi Peggy.

Trump invaded Russia?

My goodness, Peggy Noonan has gone full daft.

I can't stand Trump, but using Peggy Noonan as a source is like using Michael Moore or Joy Behar.

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Doesn't the FACT that there were Feds involved with the "rioters" make lawsuits against President Trump, FRIVOLOUS?

#LiberalismIsAMentalDisease

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Still wondering what Ray Epps is doing.

BuddysBud said:

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Trident 88 said:

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Without a doubt, Trump either failed to recognize the potential for mob violence and therefore, did nothing to prevent it, OR he knew what he was doing and didn't care.

Either way, it's his leadership failure to own, but I don't agree with allowing him to be sued for it.

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Without a doubt Trump offered National Guard forces that were refused by Pelosi, who was in charge of security at Congress.

Pelosi refusal to supply adequate security is on her and the Democrat leadership that controlled her more so than Trump, who specifically asked for peaceful protest.

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The fact that President Trump specifically asked for peaceful protest is completely ignored by the Democratic Party leadership, their minions in the bureaucracies and the MSM.

We are living in dangerous times as the Democratic Party leadership is actively ignoring the law, the Constitution and is hell bent on suppressing civil liberties and states rights.

Anyone considering voting for any Democratic candidate should immediately reconsider their voting preferences. The 2024 elections are rapidly coming up and we need to elect people that uphold the rule of law and take the Constitution seriously.

richardag said:

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pdc093 said:

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Doesn't the FACT that there were Feds involved with the "rioters" make lawsuits against President Trump, FRIVOLOUS?

#LiberalismIsAMentalDisease

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Still wondering what Ray Epps is doing.

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Just wait! Once McCarthy is Speaker of the House and Jordan heads up Judiciary Commmittee, they will surely subpoena him and make him testify!

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Who in history has been gone after longer and harder than Trump?

We going on 8-years of them going full tilt after one guy. Crazy to think about.

Only analogy I can think of is where they exiled Napoleon to one one the most remote places in the world to live out his life on Saint Helena island off the coast of Africa.

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When a **** post from a year and a half ago is today's headline.