Always-And-Forever-Til-Death-Do-Us-Part-Trumpers...Got a question...

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Ags4DaWin
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I will vote Trump or DeSantis in the general- whoever wins the primary.

Nikki Haley or any other CM convinces me to stay home.

That is all I care about. Everything else is immaterial.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

TexAgs91 said:

> Always-And-Forever-Til-Death-Do-Us-Part-Trumpers...Got a question...

Are you talking about an Only-Trumper? Do we have any of those on the board?
I think there are a few on this board, but there are TONS on social media. And Trump's lies about Desantis have been effective.
I've seen plenty of never Trumpers who would never vote for Trump, even over a marxist. But I don't think I've ever seen an always Trumper who wouldn't vote for another republican over a marxist.

We name GiorgiAg all the time. If there's an always Trumper, name them.
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TexAgs91 said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

TexAgs91 said:

> Always-And-Forever-Til-Death-Do-Us-Part-Trumpers...Got a question...

Are you talking about an Only-Trumper? Do we have any of those on the board?
I think there are a few on this board, but there are TONS on social media. And Trump's lies about Desantis have been effective.
I've seen plenty of never Trumpers who would never vote for Trump, even over a marxist. But I don't think I've ever seen an always Trumper who wouldn't vote for another republican over a marxist.

We name GiorgiAg all the time. If there's an always Trumper, name them.
To be honest, I haven't seen many of either on here, but on social media, there are tons of dudes who will attack anyone who says anything positive about Desantis, calling them a "lib" or "democrat" and then recycling the slimy lies that Trump and Kari have told about Desantis.

There are a lot of people on here who think Desantis is "establishment" which is just absurd imo and let's me know thy haven't followed ANYTHING he has done. Doubly funny considering Trump is so pro-lockdowns and MRNA vaccines. Blind loyalty to any politician is sad.
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Maybe this "Diehard Trumper" isn't real. It is either you not understanding bravado and communication or it is the intentional technique meant to divide the republican party. Which is exactly where it is weakest.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?
You talking about him attending high school parties with alcohol while a grown ass college educated man and teacher in their school? That's a fact.

Lol, I can't believe I get portrayed on here as a groomer b/c I won't roll over for the gay=groomers narrative, but some of you are totally ok with Desantis on this fact. It's bizarre and the exact sort of scenario where a teacher would exert their influence to get minors to do inappropriate things with them (maybe he bought their alcohol, maybe he gets one in room alone, etc). The optics are AWFUL and the sort of thing actual legislation exists for and has for some time, not made up propaganda points legislation.

For the record, I've NEVER been to a party with minors as an adult. Ronnie D can't say the same.
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What speaks LOUD VOLUMES on this thread ?

NON AG Taggers out in force .. do we some socks today ?
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TXAGFAN said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?
You talking about him attending high school parties with alcohol while a grown ass college educated man and teacher in their school? That's a fact.

Lol, I can't believe I get portrayed on here as a groomer b/c I won't roll over for the gay=groomers narrative, but some of you are totally ok with Desantis on this fact. It's bizarre and the exact sort of scenario where a teacher would exert their influence to get minors to do things.

For the record, I've NEVER been to a party with minors as an adult. Ronnie D can't say the same.
LOL this is not grooming. Grooming is talking about anal sex with 2nd graders...or performing provocative sexual dances and singing about pen*ses or ejaculation in front of children at "family friendly drag shows". And I have never thought of you as a groomer, just a goaltender or sympathizer.

This is just a few girls who probably have a crush on a guy a couple years older than them asking for a picture. I have seen nothing concrete to indicate that they were minors, but let's say he's 21 and they are 18...it's just not a big deal at all and one of the most 90's pictures I've ever seen. Again, I am very doubtful that they are minors. Look like college chicks to me, and we know that the media, and The Donald lie.



Classic case of this tho...

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Goaltending for inappropriate groomer behavior is all I read there and so many incorrect assumptions - many of which are inconsistent with reporting on these events and activities (age of students, Desantis age at the time, etc.).

Eta: You're defending him, not me. I didn't bring up Dems to address this subject, you did. If you're cool with your teenage daughters (or nieces or granddaughters) drinking at a party with their mid 20's teachers that's weird as hell to me. if this photo was a known gay teacher with high school boys you KNOW that would not be the discussion on this forum that "oh they probably just have a crush on him" hahaha.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?


Soros is on record of wanting DeSantis over Trump. Trump is known to put America first. DeSantis hasn't been President yet, so he's still an unknown.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros"
Yes.

Still voting Trump in the primary.

Will vote for the (R) nominee in NOV.

Got any other stupid questions?
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Rockdoc said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

TexAgs91 said:

> Always-And-Forever-Til-Death-Do-Us-Part-Trumpers...Got a question...

Are you talking about an Only-Trumper? Do we have any of those on the board?
I think there are a few on this board, but there are TONS on social media. And Trump's lies about Desantis have been effective.

I don't know of any only-Trumpers and what are the facts about trumps lies against Desantis being effective. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen any evidence of this.
Anyone who makes a pro-Desantis comment on Instagram now gets shouted down by Hardcore-Trumpers who call them liberal and then try to inform the crowd that "Desantis was endorsed by George Soros", like good little cultists. I don't think Trump knows or cares about the potential harm he is doing to the party by spouting off these damaging lies.
It only affects the hardcore only-Trumpers who believe anything and everything Trump says.

They are as rabid and no different than the hardcore leftists on social media.
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Funny all this only trumper talk is getting thrown around…

Pretty sure every Trump voter on this board would vote Desantis if he wins the primary…

Can all the folks that beat the Desantis drum ad nauseam on the board say the same about voting Trump?
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The only way Biden wins re-election is if Trump is the nominee. Polls show less than a third of democrats want Biden to be the nominee, but 70% of them will vote for him if Trump is the nominee.

3 years ago we argued that Biden was too old to serve. Trump will be exactly the same age as Biden was if he runs.

It's time for Trump to shut the hell up and fade away. He's too old He's too crazy. Every time he opens his mouth he loses votes. He cannot win over any new voters.

Time to move on to someone positive.
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So will you vote for Trump if he wins the primary?
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I love me some Trump, but as I said when he announced this is a legal maneuver not a political one.

The only way Trump is the guy for Rs is if we do as in the past and put complete schmucks up for consideration. GOP actually has some good, experienced folks throwing their hat in and some of them even tick those EEOC boxes Libs love to scream about.

Trump is working to minimize the cases against him and use campaign funds for his defence. Plus the fact it keeps him name percolating and people attacking him is an added bonus that gives him a near permanent partial stiffy.

My opinion of course, but its what makes most sense given the lay of the land and his age.
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My Name Is Judge said:

So will you vote for Trump if he wins the primary?
Reluctantly
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?


Wake us up in 2024 when it's Texas' turn to vote for either Trump or Desantis. Right now, the 400 different threads per week on this issue are just noise.
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'Suggest'.... so what.
Soros endorsed... so what
I'll vote for Desantis anyway, but will not have to because Trump will breeze through the primary.

If Desantis could win, he would have no idea of how much evil the Democrats will loose upon him.

He better figure it out before 2028.
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texagbeliever said:

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

people that support trump are not democrats. geez guys come one. i voted for trump and gladly would again against any democrat but it's a tossup with desantis. desantis brings a lot of similar traits as trump but appears to have better control of his messaging. i would vote for either gladly. i just don't get the whole cynicism towards trump voters. they didn't cost the don the election. they will show up for desantis if he is the nominee because desantis is that good and will earn their vote.


The cynicism is a form of elitism. The Trump diehards "embarass them" in front of their work colleagues or church friends. It is like the manufactured smear attempts painting Trump as a white nationalist. Just because someone who supports him does something you wouldn't do doesn't make you wrong to support him. Its some crappy transitive logic.

My advice (to the op) grow thicker skin and keep your eyes on the goal. A free America.
It's also like the manufactured campaign to paint Trump as a devout Christian. We're not talking about not supporting someone because some of the people that do are embarrassing. Its about the actual person running doing something that lacks your standards of integrity/morality. Otherwise, we could just say anything and everything within the legal limits is okay as long as it gets our guy in office. Its not about thicker skin...It's about putting someone in office that actually has integrity and a moral compass. DeSantis has this over Trump...in spades.
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BluHorseShu said:

texagbeliever said:


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It's also like the manufactured campaign to paint Trump as a devout Christian. We're not talking about not supporting someone because some of the people that do are embarrassing. Its about the actual person running doing something that lacks your standards of integrity/morality. Otherwise, we could just say anything and everything within the legal limits is okay as long as it gets our guy in office. Its not about thicker skin...It's about putting someone in office that actually has integrity and a moral compass. DeSantis has this over Trump...in spades.
This is quite laughable. Though not a big fan of churches and organized religious sects, I will take Robert Jeffress assessment of Trump over any random poster on TexAgs.

Trump is a Christian and an overall respecter of other religions as well including Muslims and Jews.

Its an inconvenient truth for many Never Trumpers that Trump is a man of God, a man of faith and a champion for Christians.

Devout? I dunno, thats a question that could only accurately be answered by those closest to him. But I have no reason to doubt folks like Jeffress who profess is is a Christian.
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Does this sound like the utterances and policy prescriptions of a serious candidate for President?

or the mutterings and screechings of an unbalanced old man?

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Rapier108 said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Rockdoc said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

TexAgs91 said:

> Always-And-Forever-Til-Death-Do-Us-Part-Trumpers...Got a question...

Are you talking about an Only-Trumper? Do we have any of those on the board?
I think there are a few on this board, but there are TONS on social media. And Trump's lies about Desantis have been effective.

I don't know of any only-Trumpers and what are the facts about trumps lies against Desantis being effective. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen any evidence of this.
Anyone who makes a pro-Desantis comment on Instagram now gets shouted down by Hardcore-Trumpers who call them liberal and then try to inform the crowd that "Desantis was endorsed by George Soros", like good little cultists. I don't think Trump knows or cares about the potential harm he is doing to the party by spouting off these damaging lies.
It only affects the hardcore only-Trumpers who believe anything and everything Trump says.

They are as rabid and no different than the hardcore leftists on social media.
True, but I believe there are several million of these types. Hope I am wrong. If there is even a hint of bad blood between the two, there is no way these types will vote for "groomer/Soros endorsed" Desantis. This would be almost as damaging ad Trump throwing a tantrum and running 3rd party.
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LMCane said:

Does this sound like the utterances and policy prescriptions of a serious candidate for President?

or the mutterings and screechings of an unbalanced old man?


My goodness he is awful. He is actually getting people who were giddy to vote for him in 2020 to actually despise him. Go away you old knucklehead...and lower your testosterone dosage...supraphysiological levels at your age can be a very bad thing.
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texagbeliever said:

LMCane said:

texagbeliever said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?


Long term DeSantis wing and Trump wing of Republicans can't survive. I posted a thread on how they target different types of people. In natural Texags fashion there was a hyperfixation on one word and not the general thought but thats the internet haha.

My hope is that Trump and DeSantis are able to unite in time and crush the left movement. From there a healthy split into 2 parties with conservatism more at their base just maybe not culture similarities outside of that.
It is the ultimate insanity to believe that Trump and DeSantis will "be able to unite in time"

no way that egoist, narcissist in Chief Trump is going to partner with someone younger and better who can beat Biden. no way!


No way Trump beats HRC.
No way Trump nominates 3 conservative SC justifies.
No way Trump doesn't start WW3.
No way Trump leads unemployment to record lows.

At some point maybe it is dumb to say no way and Trump together. Guy is good at winning. He ain't perfect thiugh.

that's hilarious how you left out:

not building the wall or getting the Mexicans to pay for it
Biden actually has lower unemployment levels for longer
impeached once
impeached twice

losing the House and Senate in 2018
losing the Presidency to Joe Biden in 2020
losing the House and Senate in 2020
losing the Senate in 2022


but yeah- Trump is just a winner!
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LMCane said:

texagbeliever said:

LMCane said:

texagbeliever said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?


Long term DeSantis wing and Trump wing of Republicans can't survive. I posted a thread on how they target different types of people. In natural Texags fashion there was a hyperfixation on one word and not the general thought but thats the internet haha.

My hope is that Trump and DeSantis are able to unite in time and crush the left movement. From there a healthy split into 2 parties with conservatism more at their base just maybe not culture similarities outside of that.
It is the ultimate insanity to believe that Trump and DeSantis will "be able to unite in time"

no way that egoist, narcissist in Chief Trump is going to partner with someone younger and better who can beat Biden. no way!


No way Trump beats HRC.
No way Trump nominates 3 conservative SC justifies.
No way Trump doesn't start WW3.
No way Trump leads unemployment to record lows.

At some point maybe it is dumb to say no way and Trump together. Guy is good at winning. He ain't perfect thiugh.

that's hilarious how you left out:

not building the wall or getting the Mexicans to pay for it
Biden actually has lower unemployment levels for longer
impeached once
impeached twice

losing the House and Senate in 2018
losing the Presidency to Joe Biden in 2020
losing the House and Senate in 2020
losing the Senate in 2022


but yeah- Trump is just a winner!

Someone under him was good at advising him on judicial picks. Not sure if Pence, or someone else...but I will give him that.
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Science Denier said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?


Soros is on record of wanting DeSantis over Trump. Trump is known to put America first. DeSantis hasn't been President yet, so he's still an unknown.
are you willingly propagandizing on this?!

we just in the last few days spent time proving that Soros never said that, they are bald faced lies.

then you come waltzing in and parroting the same lies we just spent last week completely disproving.

I can't tell whether these are socks pretending to be stupid people- or actual stupid people.
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safelightKL said:

texagbeliever said:

Just curious do you think republican leadership in the house and senate had the American peoples best interest in mind? I think the Romney, McCain and Paul Ryan's were the prepared road block to actual conservative policies.
I'm not much for excuses. Trump has done nothing but make excuses for why he couldn't get things done. It used to sound like the fighting cry of an outsider set on reform, and now sounds like a whiny loser. Why didn't he warn us that he wouldn't be able to overcome the political Titans like Romney, McCain, and Ryan. Let's give someone else a chance to overcome the establishment.
Reduced income tax not getting things done !
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I happily voted for Trump and would do so again if he is the nominee. If Desantisis the nominee I will happily vote for Desantis. Every patriotic American better think this way if we want to stop the dimtarded socialists/communists from stealing our country.
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LMCane said:

texagbeliever said:

LMCane said:

texagbeliever said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?


Long term DeSantis wing and Trump wing of Republicans can't survive. I posted a thread on how they target different types of people. In natural Texags fashion there was a hyperfixation on one word and not the general thought but thats the internet haha.

My hope is that Trump and DeSantis are able to unite in time and crush the left movement. From there a healthy split into 2 parties with conservatism more at their base just maybe not culture similarities outside of that.
It is the ultimate insanity to believe that Trump and DeSantis will "be able to unite in time"

no way that egoist, narcissist in Chief Trump is going to partner with someone younger and better who can beat Biden. no way!


No way Trump beats HRC.
No way Trump nominates 3 conservative SC justifies.
No way Trump doesn't start WW3.
No way Trump leads unemployment to record lows.

At some point maybe it is dumb to say no way and Trump together. Guy is good at winning. He ain't perfect thiugh.

that's hilarious how you left out:

not building the wall or getting the Mexicans to pay for it
Biden actually has lower unemployment levels for longer
impeached once
impeached twice

losing the House and Senate in 2018
losing the Presidency to Joe Biden in 2020
losing the House and Senate in 2020
losing the Senate in 2022


but yeah- Trump is just a winner!


This is how I know you are a troll. No rational, intelligent adult says that Biden had better unemployment than Trump.

And throwing in the 2 impeachment. Only progressives count that against him. You are clearly not a republican and your efforts in playing one are quite poor.

As an aside, no ag tags with recent join dates plus 1-2 stars sets off my troll alarm bells. The fact that these 2 posters obsess over negative Trump stuff is noteworthy.
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People, People, People....

Ron DeSantis went to Harvard Law School "YET" enlisted in Navy and volunteered to go to IRAQ.

He then goes into politics with a perfect resume.

He, now writes a book, which is how you get paid by your Lobbyists.

ANYONE that goes into POLITICS is a crook, liar, cheat, etc.,

Trump was/is an ego maniac that suggested he might be better than all candidates in 2016. His election proved voters (in a fair election) choose a known ego maniac that supports their beliefs over a lying lifelong politician.

We have no true-blue leaders anymore.

DeSantis should support Trump now however his ego (I am guessing) is as big as Trump's.

DeSantis is a POLITICIAN and planned that from day 1.




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BluHorseShu said:

samurai_science said:

What does it matter what anyone "admits"? The process is simple, vote in the Primary, and whoever wins, vote for them against the Demorat.

I will vote for Ron, and I hope he wins so I can vote for him again.
Integrity is overrated. I'm for the 'do whatever it takes' or the 'cheat like the democrats' approaches. To me anything is on the table if it gets them into office. THEN we can worry about whether they actually do anything of value. The U.S. presidency is arguably the most powerful person in the world...Integrity and morality only get in the way of being effective.
Integrity and morality are important. In the general election it is imperative that the Democrat loses, because they will have less integrity and morality than the Republican by default. They'll also have worse policy positions than the worst Republican. Maybe the Democrats should try not being such reckless **** stains if they want conservatives to vote for them over a bad Republican. Furthermore, it would be helpful if Democrats had any oversight whatsoever.
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LMCane said:

Science Denier said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?


Soros is on record of wanting DeSantis over Trump. Trump is known to put America first. DeSantis hasn't been President yet, so he's still an unknown.
are you willingly propagandizing on this?!

we just in the last few days spent time proving that Soros never said that, they are bald faced lies.

then you come waltzing in and parroting the same lies we just spent last week completely disproving.

I can't tell whether these are socks pretending to be stupid people- or actual stupid people.


Dude. They played Soros himself saying this on KTRH. He said it. It's actual fact.
LOL OLD
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Science Denier said:

LMCane said:

Science Denier said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?


Soros is on record of wanting DeSantis over Trump. Trump is known to put America first. DeSantis hasn't been President yet, so he's still an unknown.
are you willingly propagandizing on this?!

we just in the last few days spent time proving that Soros never said that, they are bald faced lies.

then you come waltzing in and parroting the same lies we just spent last week completely disproving.

I can't tell whether these are socks pretending to be stupid people- or actual stupid people.


Dude. They played Soros himself saying this on KTRH. He said it. It's actual fact.



Then please link him saying he supports him and not that DeSantis should win the primary so Trump runs third party. That scenario guarantees a Dem in the WH.
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Tanya 93 said:

Science Denier said:

LMCane said:

Science Denier said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

Are any of you willing or able to admit that he is outright lying when he suggests that Desantis is a "groomer" or when he openly says "Desantis is endorsed by Soros" (Kari Lake also spreading this lie)???

Genuinely curious to get some responses. He and Kari Lake are straight up liars, but "it's just politics", I am guessing? Can you admit that these are nasty lies against a good conservative leader?


Soros is on record of wanting DeSantis over Trump. Trump is known to put America first. DeSantis hasn't been President yet, so he's still an unknown.
are you willingly propagandizing on this?!

we just in the last few days spent time proving that Soros never said that, they are bald faced lies.

then you come waltzing in and parroting the same lies we just spent last week completely disproving.

I can't tell whether these are socks pretending to be stupid people- or actual stupid people.


Dude. They played Soros himself saying this on KTRH. He said it. It's actual fact.



Then please link him saying he supports him and not that DeSantis should win the primary so Trump runs third party. That scenario guarantees a Dem in the WH.


I'll find the actual quote. It has to be out there because they played it.

And as I said, he supports DeSantis over Trump. He's scared of Trump.
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