Generative AI is a Trojan horse to digital ID

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Nanomachines son
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Brittmoore Car Club said:


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Now? It's impossible unless you were born off the grid.

I was about to try to rebut this by bringing up people like part of my extended family who are on self sustaining remote land in deep East Texas. All the water, farm, and wildlife/hogs you would need to survive. At least for a while. But then I remembered that no one owns anything. You have to pay taxes, making your land/home, not yours.


Yep, taxes mean you own nothing. I don't think there are any fully cut off communities anymore like there was in Appalachia as recently as 30 years ago.
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Nanomachines son said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:


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Now? It's impossible unless you were born off the grid.

I was about to try to rebut this by bringing up people like part of my extended family who are on self sustaining remote land in deep East Texas. All the water, farm, and wildlife/hogs you would need to survive. At least for a while. But then I remembered that no one owns anything. You have to pay taxes, making your land/home, not yours.


Yep, taxes mean you own nothing. I don't think there are any fully cut off communities anymore like there was in Appalachia as recently as 30 years ago.
The Yanomami of the Amazon and the Sentinelese peeps might let us come live with them...that's all I've got.


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ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT NORTH SENTINEL ISLAND.

ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE.
erudite
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Waffledynamics said:

That reminded me of one of the most creepy moments in that series. The MGS series has amazing commentary.
I think Warren Spector has Kojima beat on that one by a year. Deus Ex came out in 2000 and got a few things right (No Twin Towers and the surveillance state).



Did I mention that a plague is key plot point of the game? Gem of a game, they don't make them like they used to.....
Serious Lee
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the scenario in the OP is why ive had fake nudes of mine on the web for years.

so when the real thing inevitably hits, no one will be able to tell the difference in my ***** and all the fakes ive generated throughout the years.
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In the meantime it'll be fun though

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The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can impliment the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.

Quote from that first video hits hard.
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Depression, suicide and drug addiction would be off the charts in this type of world.
One of the first things discussed on here at the outset of covid and lockdowns.

The consensus was that alcoholism, drug abuse, domestic violence, and mental health was about to go balls out.

And it did.

Nary a peep about unintended consequences at the time. Not even in the conversation.
erudite
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:


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The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can impliment the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.

Quote from that first video hits hard.
"Si Dieu n'existait pas, il faudrait l'inventer"
That game ran with the idea of "What if we build the main character with the most common arguments that Americans are told to believe in and completely rebut them with facts and logic?" and "What if we make every conspiracy theory actually real".

Ernest Tucker
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:


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The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can impliment the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.

Quote from that first video hits hard.


It means nothing without love

Also, looks like the Amish get scoreboard.
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This AI / deepfake / voice cloning issue will start to get out of control before the end of 2023.

Op's video is right.

The technology is so good that it's gonna create chaos.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Depression, suicide and drug addiction would be off the charts in this type of world.
One of the first things discussed on here at the outset of covid and lockdowns.

The consensus was that alcoholism, drug abuse, domestic violence, and mental health was about to go balls out.

And it did.

Nary a peep about unintended consequences at the time. Not even in the conversation.


Yep, ''twas verboten
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Elon's opinion on this is we are all ****ed and it's too late
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The purported journalist on screen is Noah, one of dozens of artificial intelligence avatars created by a company called Synthesia that for just $30 a month will say whatever the buyer wants. Similar videos produced recently using Synthesia software have been used to promote propaganda in Africa and Asia as well over the past month.
The Debt
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Win At Life said:

Nanomachines son said:



When the internet becomes awash with deep fakes such that anything digital can be assumed to be fake, even phone calls, there will be no way to discern humans from AI for most NPCs. Then the government will magically come to the table with a """solution""" that is a digital ID to verify that you are human. This will in turn be used to track everything and anything you do online including even accessing the internet or your bank.

Not much has ever spooked me from the dissident sphere but this concept absolutely does. Watch the video, it spells it all out a lot better, it's just 4 minutes long.
MANDATORYDIGITALIDENTIFICATIONFORALLHUMANS = 666

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Manditoryidentityverificationforallhumans = 666

And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark the name of the beast or the number of its name. Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.…

How wonderful that John wrote Revelations with the English alphabet in mind.
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Muktheduck said:

Your second 'A' in 'Mandatory' is worth five points instead of one...nice attempt though

He was playing on a Scrabble board
Get Off My Lawn
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The distrust in information is already ramping up - our ability to understand what is ACTUALLY happening in the world is quickly deteriorating and deep fake technology is going to accelerate that distrust. AI generated deep fakes and personalized interactions will take it to an entirely different level. When would-be-resistors can't rely on any news, video, or digital communication - they become paralyzed. Tyrannical governments don't even need to take action against Joe T Patriot if they can control him through control of his information inputs (see China).
Nanomachines son
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Coverups are about to get a lot easier. I can easily see something like this being heavily abused by governments.
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2013 episode of Black Mirror called 'Be Right Back' was on point with this topic.
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Estimate the percentage of posts on reddit that are generative AI?
Nanomachines son
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Estimate the percentage of posts on reddit that are generative AI?


A lot. Someone found out a few years ago that GPT style AI was making the majority of front page posts. The same thing happened at 4chan to try and subvert it but it doesn't work because /pol/ sees right through it.
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Idiocracy already did it

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This book came out in 1997 and predicted much of what we are seeing.
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Jeeper79 said:

Makes sense, but I'd call it more of a natural progression than a Trojan horse.

Chains set lightly upon you, I see.
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Peterson quoting someone on AI;

'Giants will walk the earth once more, and we are gonna live through that, maybe.'
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Nanomachines son
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I told everyone it was coming. Don't think for one second this wasn't the path they would take.
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We can't unring this bell.

All this is going to devolve into chaos before we know it.

Signal to noise will ratchet up to 11. Nobody will know what to do.
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Latest in rendering technology
Robert L. Peters
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I think at some point a certain amount of people will break away. Kind of like the Amish rejected modern technology.
What you say, Paper Champion? I'm gonna beat you like a dog, a dog, you hear me!
tk for tu juan
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Season 3 of Westworld is our future?

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State of metahuman rendering technology. This is unbelievable.

This is all gonna bust loose by the end of the year.
Gigem_94
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Nanomachines son said:

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It would be a quantum computer with the ability to crack a digital ID.

All this + a quantum computer and it's game over.

Thats worst case scenario, plot of the Terminator ****, and there's a good chance we live to see it.

All of this is gonna overtake us faster than we can conceptualize.


Worse than being hacked would be deletion. Imagine deleting someone's digital ID. You would effectively make them citizen less and stateless. They would be a non-person without it. The future is looking bleaker and bleaker.

Deletion would equal freedom.
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