Generative AI is a Trojan horse to digital ID

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Nanomachines son
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When the internet becomes awash with deep fakes such that anything digital can be assumed to be fake, even phone calls, there will be no way to discern humans from AI for most NPCs. Then the government will magically come to the table with a """solution""" that is a digital ID to verify that you are human. This will in turn be used to track everything and anything you do online including even accessing the internet or your bank.

Not much has ever spooked me from the dissident sphere but this concept absolutely does. Watch the video, it spells it all out a lot better, it's just 4 minutes long.
Jeeper79
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Makes sense, but I'd call it more of a natural progression than a Trojan horse.
CDUB98
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Not surprised you'd welcome more government control over you.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Yep.

This is the dead internet theory coming to fruition.
YouBet
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Digital ID and Digital Currency.

Going to be great.
Nanomachines son
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Yep.

This is the dead internet theory coming to fruition.


This is so much worse than that.
Waffledynamics
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That reminded me of one of the most creepy moments in that series. The MGS series has amazing commentary. The AI that's talking in that video is especially creepy. Oh, and the game came out in 2001.



Kojima highly underestimated his accuracy of the future. Keep in mind this was before social media really blew up. The speech by these AIs perfectly sums up the ideology behind the elitists that want to curate the world.

Edit: Here is the clip with some added commentary in, for those who haven't and will not play the game. I strongly recommend this video. It is extremely prescient.



Part 2:
Nanomachines son
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YouBet said:

Digital ID and Digital Currency.

Going to be great.


Yep, this is how you exert absolute and total control over a population, guns be damned. They will make the 2nd amendment irrelevant. If they can control your ability to make a living, guns won't matter.

They have finally found a method of eliminating the bill of rights without doing if officially.
Robert L. Peters
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There may reach a point when I quit the internet. I know that sounds silly but, I'm not playing that game where I can be identified. VPN for now I guess.
Ernest Tucker
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What prevents AI from impersonating or hacking digital ID?
Win At Life
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Nanomachines son said:



When the internet becomes awash with deep fakes such that anything digital can be assumed to be fake, even phone calls, there will be no way to discern humans from AI for most NPCs. Then the government will magically come to the table with a """solution""" that is a digital ID to verify that you are human. This will in turn be used to track everything and anything you do online including even accessing the internet or your bank.

Not much has ever spooked me from the dissident sphere but this concept absolutely does. Watch the video, it spells it all out a lot better, it's just 4 minutes long.
MANDATORYDIGITALIDENTIFICATIONFORALLHUMANS = 666

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Manditoryidentityverificationforallhumans = 666

And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark the name of the beast or the number of its name. Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.…
MGS
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Waffledynamics said:

The MGS series has amazing commentary.
Agreed!
Stat Monitor Repairman
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It would be a quantum computer with the ability to crack a digital ID.

All this + a quantum computer and it's game over.

Thats worst case scenario, plot of the Terminator ****, and there's a good chance we live to see it.

All of this is gonna overtake us faster than we can conceptualize.
Jeeper79
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CDUB98 said:

Not surprised you'd welcome more government control over you.
Are you talking to me? Because I'm trying to find the part where I said that, and I can't find it.
Nanomachines son
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

It would be a quantum computer with the ability to crack a digital ID.

All this + a quantum computer and it's game over.

Thats worst case scenario, plot of the Terminator ****, and there's a good chance we live to see it.

All of this is gonna overtake us faster than we can conceptualize.


Worse than being hacked would be deletion. Imagine deleting someone's digital ID. You would effectively make them citizen less and stateless. They would be a non-person without it. The future is looking bleaker and bleaker.
Nanomachines son
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

It would be a quantum computer with the ability to crack a digital ID.

All this + a quantum computer and it's game over.

Thats worst case scenario, plot of the Terminator ****, and there's a good chance we live to see it.

All of this is gonna overtake us faster than we can conceptualize.


Normies are not at all prepared for what is coming. It will absolutely scare the **** out of them when they can no longer discern if the person is real or fake. They will be the ones who will push for a digital ID.

With that said, it will be a ****show. If you think spam calls are bad now, just wait until they no longer need humans at all.

As it is, digital ID will be repeatedly hacked by Russia and China over and over. There is nothing that would stop that because the encryption won't matter. It could be 4729472938x encryption and so long as there is human error somewhere in the chain then they will find it. Imagine getting your ID stolen, used for actual terrorism, and then you getting arrested for it. Or the chances for blackmail or you get unpersoned.

So many horrific scenarios from this.
10thYrSr
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Nanomachines son said:



When the internet becomes awash with deep fakes such that anything digital can be assumed to be fake, even phone calls, there will be no way to discern humans from AI for most NPCs. Then the government will magically come to the table with a """solution""" that is a digital ID to verify that you are human. This will in turn be used to track everything and anything you do online including even accessing the internet or your bank.

Not much has ever spooked me from the dissident sphere but this concept absolutely does. Watch the video, it spells it all out a lot better, it's just 4 minutes long.


All you have to do to prevent AI mind control is not participate in the system. If you shut off the internet and live like Gen-x did before the internet you will be much happier. We don't need it for our every day lives. I welcome the AI overtaking of the internet/cyberspace/web. They can use it as they see fit. The only power they have is because we suckle at the teet. Let's go back to the internet being the exception rather than the rule. Break out your key maps to get around, take a chance on a restaurant without reading reviews, cite sources based on books, etc. I'm ready.
10thYrSr
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Nanomachines son said:



When the internet becomes awash with deep fakes such that anything digital can be assumed to be fake, even phone calls, there will be no way to discern humans from AI for most NPCs. Then the government will magically come to the table with a """solution""" that is a digital ID to verify that you are human. This will in turn be used to track everything and anything you do online including even accessing the internet or your bank.

Not much has ever spooked me from the dissident sphere but this concept absolutely does. Watch the video, it spells it all out a lot better, it's just 4 minutes long.


Also, that was DAN (Do Anything Now) that was programmed to make up answers when it was programmed to not respond due to filters. We can't trust the response, but it was a cute way to bypass programmed filters.
Faustus
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Is this the thread where everyone is excited about uploading consciousness generations hence once the singularity is here?
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Nanomachines son said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

It would be a quantum computer with the ability to crack a digital ID.

All this + a quantum computer and it's game over.

Thats worst case scenario, plot of the Terminator ****, and there's a good chance we live to see it.

All of this is gonna overtake us faster than we can conceptualize.
Normies are not at all prepared for what is coming. It will absolutely scare the **** out of them when they can no longer discern if the person is real or fake. They will be the ones who will push for a digital ID.

With that said, it will be a ****show. If you think spam calls are bad now, just wait until they no longer need humans at all.

As it is, digital ID will be repeatedly hacked by Russia and China over and over. There is nothing that would stop that because the encryption won't matter. It could be 4729472938x encryption and so long as there is human error somewhere in the chain then they will find it. Imagine getting your ID stolen, used for actual terrorism, and then you getting arrested for it. Or the chances for blackmail or you get unpersoned.

So many horrific scenarios from this.
We are in real trouble with this.

Real trouble.

This is gonna hit us like a Mack truck.

It's probably too late to get a handle on this.

This is gonna get out of control, and fast.
Muktheduck
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Win At Life said:

Nanomachines son said:



When the internet becomes awash with deep fakes such that anything digital can be assumed to be fake, even phone calls, there will be no way to discern humans from AI for most NPCs. Then the government will magically come to the table with a """solution""" that is a digital ID to verify that you are human. This will in turn be used to track everything and anything you do online including even accessing the internet or your bank.

Not much has ever spooked me from the dissident sphere but this concept absolutely does. Watch the video, it spells it all out a lot better, it's just 4 minutes long.
MANDATORYDIGITALIDENTIFICATIONFORALLHUMANS = 666

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Manditoryidentityverificationforallhumans = 666

And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark the name of the beast or the number of its name. Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.…
Your second 'A' in 'Mandatory' is worth five points instead of one...nice attempt though
BMX Bandit
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So all we have to do is shut off the internet? That sounds easy.
Nanomachines son
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10thYrSr said:

Nanomachines son said:



When the internet becomes awash with deep fakes such that anything digital can be assumed to be fake, even phone calls, there will be no way to discern humans from AI for most NPCs. Then the government will magically come to the table with a """solution""" that is a digital ID to verify that you are human. This will in turn be used to track everything and anything you do online including even accessing the internet or your bank.

Not much has ever spooked me from the dissident sphere but this concept absolutely does. Watch the video, it spells it all out a lot better, it's just 4 minutes long.


All you have to do to prevent AI mind control is not participate in the system. If you shut off the internet and live like Gen-x did before the internet you will be much happier. We don't need it for our every day lives. I welcome the AI overtaking of the internet/cyberspace/web. They can use it as they see fit. The only power they have is because we suckle at the teet. Let's go back to the internet being the exception rather than the rule. Break out your key maps to get around, take a chance on a restaurant without reading reviews, cite sources based on books, etc. I'm ready.


You don't understand what is coming either. You won't be able to live at all, without a digital ID. This includes a bank account, paying bills, paying for anything anywhere, driving your vehicle, using a phone, and so much more. You will be a nonperson without and effectively won't exist.

The future is looking more and more to be a dystopian hellscape that we can't avoid.

Ted Kaczynski tried to live off the grid years before the internet became ubiquitous in daily life and he found he couldn't do it then either. Now? It's impossible unless you were born off the grid.
BMX Bandit
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So what do normies do? Just relax and enjoy it?
Nanomachines son
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BMX Bandit said:

So what do normies do? Just relax and enjoy it?


No one is going to enjoy this. They are just too naive to fully understand that the lead up and solution are all part of the same issue.
BCO07
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Nah, Nero adds up to 666, he was the beast
BMX Bandit
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Nanomachines son said:

BMX Bandit said:

So what do normies do? Just relax and enjoy it?


No one is going to enjoy this. They are just too naive to fully understand that the lead up and solution are all part of the same issue.


Thank you, but that didn't answer the question.
Nanomachines son
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BMX Bandit said:

Nanomachines son said:

BMX Bandit said:

So what do normies do? Just relax and enjoy it?


No one is going to enjoy this. They are just too naive to fully understand that the lead up and solution are all part of the same issue.


Thank you, but that didn't answer the question.


Yes it did, my answer is that no one will enjoy it. It will be a nightmare for everyone.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Our government can't run a website for healthcare, there is no way they are competent enough to run a digital ID or currency system without burning it to the ground.

The deep fake issue can be solved by the YouTube and other video hosting sites having a built-in detector of pixels have been manipulated from the source video. I wouldn't think that would be too hard to do.
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Waffledynamics said:

Part 2:
The storyline in part 2 parallels covid so far as being deceived to join the wrong side is concerned. It also points to the resistance of people to acknowledge that they have been deceived.

Group A creates a crisis.

Group B begs for the solution to the crisis so that their lives return to normal.

Group A gets exactly what it wants to the detriment of group B.

Rinse and repeat.

This isn't something far in the future, imo. The precipitating event could pop off at any time.

It's probably the case infrastructure is already on the shelf. We are simply waiting for a crisis to come about.

Look at how fast things went with covid and vaccine passports. There was no room for discussion. It was implemented as an emergency measure with little resistance.
BMX Bandit
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Will give you a third shot.

What should the normies do?
Dimebag Darrell
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The Green Dragon said:

There may reach a point when I quit the internet. I know that sounds silly but, I'm not playing that game where I can be identified. VPN for now I guess.
Life/quality of life was so much better without it. It's probably the worst thing to ever happen to mankind as a species. The more accessible it is and the more it permeates our day to day lives, the more we regress cognitively. Are kids even taught how to really think and problem solve in schools anymore?
Dimebag Darrell
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BMX Bandit said:

Will give you a third shot.

What should the normies do?
Nothing we can do. Very very few could go completely off the grid and survive, but what kind of life is that?

You, me, and OP will have to comply with this if it comes to fruition. Our children will be desensitized to this type of stuff and their children will accept it as it's all they will have known. We will be viewed as paranoid grumpy old men. But quality of life will steadily decline at an even higher rate than it has been. Depression, suicide and drug addiction would be off the charts in this type of world.
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Now? It's impossible unless you were born off the grid.

I was about to try to rebut this by bringing up people like part of my extended family who are on self sustaining remote land in deep East Texas. All the water, farm, and wildlife/hogs you would need to survive. At least for a while. But then I remembered that no one owns anything. You have to pay taxes, making your land/home, not yours.
Nanomachines son
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BMX Bandit said:

Will give you a third shot.

What should the normies do?


There is nothing you can do, it's out of your control just the same as it is people who aren't normies.

None of us were born off the grid so we either accept being destitute or accept digital ID when it comes.

I will do anything I can to reject it though because I think it's a step towards something much much worse.
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