3 Okie Sheriffs claim to not enforce ATF pistol brace rule

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ChemEAg08
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https://notthebee.com/article/sheriffs-in-oklahoma-are-informing-the-atf-that-they-will-not-enforce-the-agencys-stupid-pistol-brace-rule

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Oklahoma sheriffs are informing the ATF that they will not enforce the agency's stupid new pistol brace rule

At least three Oklahoma sheriffs have posted videos and/or notices on their Facebook pages to let the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) know they have no intention of enforcing the pistol brace rule in non-criminal situations.

On January 25, 2023, Oklahoma County Sheriff Tommie Johnson III posted a video to Facebook in which he made it clear he has instructed his deputies not to enforce the rule "in a low-level incidental contact" with someone who is in possession of a pistol with a stabilizer brace.

Sheriff Johnson said, "In other words, if a deputy encounters someone with a pistol equipped with a stabilizer brace they will take no action against that person, unless that person is using the weapon in the commission of a crime."

The Logan County Sheriff's Office stands with our neighbors to the South, Sheriff Tommy Johnson III, and the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Office and any other Sheriff's Office or other Law Enforcement in defense of rights. We will not be taking any action relating to ATF Rule 2021R-08F. To be clear, should any of our deputies come in contact with anyone possessing/owning any short barreled weapons with a "stabilizer brace" or other rearward attachments, we will take no action, unless the weapon is used in the commission of a crime.


It's a start if SCOTUS sits on their hands (which the pessismist in my fully expects). Texas needs to return to a sanctuary gun state.
MasonB
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Logan County resident here. Happy to have my neighbors well armed!
aggielostinETX
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Texas LEO don't enforce typical federal issues either per state law.
BTHOB-98
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Good. This is the dumbest thing that the ATF has ever done and that's saying a lot.
gigemags-99
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BTHOB-98 said:

Good. This is the dumbest thing that the ATF has ever done and that's saying a lot.

Waco says "hi"
BTHOB-98
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gigemags-99 said:

BTHOB-98 said:

Good. This is the dumbest thing that the ATF has ever done and that's saying a lot.

Waco says "hi"


Waco and Ruby Ridge were disasters. This is that kind of law that leads to those outcomes.
gigemags-99
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Agreed
Scruffy
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Based on federal fit throwing about immigration, I thought state law enforcement wasn't allowed to enforce federal laws or regulations.

Or that just for things that are [D]ifferent?
deddog
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BTHOB-98 said:

Good. This is the dumbest thing that the ATF has ever done and that's saying a lot.
EVIL.
Not dumb.

The intent is to threaten and imprison law abiding Republicans,
samurai_science
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BTHOB-98 said:

gigemags-99 said:

BTHOB-98 said:

Good. This is the dumbest thing that the ATF has ever done and that's saying a lot.

Waco says "hi"


Waco and Ruby Ridge were disasters. This is that kind of law that leads to those outcomes.
ATF does not make laws, its a rule, and its going to die in the courts
schmellba99
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samurai_science said:

BTHOB-98 said:

gigemags-99 said:

BTHOB-98 said:

Good. This is the dumbest thing that the ATF has ever done and that's saying a lot.

Waco says "hi"


Waco and Ruby Ridge were disasters. This is that kind of law that leads to those outcomes.
ATF does not make laws, its a rule, and its going to die in the courts


Technically they dont, but the practical application is the same as law, especially when there is criminal and civil punishment associated with violating those rulings.
harge57
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aggielostinETX said:

Texas LEO don't enforce typical federal issues either per state law.


Yep. Have had a game warden say the same thing about suppressors. Not something he cares about. He said unless you run into an atf agent no one is ever going to check your paperwork.
IslanderAg04
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ATF is a ****ing joke. Dated org that needs to be gutted.
aggielostinETX
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harge57 said:

aggielostinETX said:

Texas LEO don't enforce typical federal issues either per state law.


Yep. Have had a game warden say the same thing about suppressors. Not something he cares about. He said unless you run into an atf agent no one is ever going to check your paperwork.


They actually dropped the state laws on most of the stuff years ago. I got schooled on that on ARFCOM
txyaloo
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harge57 said:

aggielostinETX said:

Texas LEO don't enforce typical federal issues either per state law.


Yep. Have had a game warden say the same thing about suppressors. Not something he cares about. He said unless you run into an atf agent no one is ever going to check your paperwork.
Not sure if your experience was fairly recent, but suppressors were removed from regulation by Texas statute last session. So he's right, he doesn't care.

The thing lots of us forget is many of our state laws parallel federal laws. So while correct, Texas LEOs don't typically enforce federal law, they can and will enforce the state statutes surrounding SBR, SBS, and machine guns.
aggielostinETX
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txyaloo said:

harge57 said:

aggielostinETX said:

Texas LEO don't enforce typical federal issues either per state law.


Yep. Have had a game warden say the same thing about suppressors. Not something he cares about. He said unless you run into an atf agent no one is ever going to check your paperwork.
Not sure if your experience was fairly recent, but suppressors were removed from regulation by Texas statute last session. So he's right, he doesn't care.

The thing lots of us forget is many of our state laws parallel federal laws. So while correct, Texas LEOs don't typically enforce federal law, they can and will enforce the state statutes surrounding SBR, SBS, and machine guns.


46.05 needs to be repealed
Johnny04
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The restriction on short barreled rifles (SBRs) under the Firearms Act of 1934 is one of the dumbest long-standing federal laws on the books. While drafting the law, it was originally proposed to ban/restrict all handguns. The logic was that because they are concealable they are used by criminal types. Because a sawed off shotgun or SBR was seen as a loophole to this law, they also included a restriction on all rifles/shotguns with barrels under 16 inches.

Of course, the handgun ban was eventually removed from the final version of the law and became a common use weapon for the next 80 years. But the restriction on SBRs was never removed and has remained federal law ever since. 15 minute video explaining the details in case anyone is interested.

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