California Driver gets ticket for being too loud in a stock Hyundai

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GeorgiAg
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What a clown state.



Guy has a stock 2022 Hyundai. He put the vehicle in "track" or "sport" mode which the officer says is illegal. Officer takes his license and he has to go to the State Referee, whatever that is. His stock Hyundai was 3 decibels over a the limit of 95.

It's been 5 months and he still doesn't have his car. Court is Feb 23rd. No wonder they are all moving to Texas.

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5 months ago
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Just got pulled over and my license suspended in Riverside, CA for a loud exhaust and smog citation in a stock Elantra N. I cut the video once the officer walked away, after he comes back he repeats the same things and that's it.

Anybody deal with this? The dealership never told me that N mode is illegal since it probably isn't... Tips?
4 months ago
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Update on the citation I got awhile ago, I took the car in for the state ref inspection and it passed smog but failed exhaust.
It was reading at a max of 102 db and an average of 98 db. The state ref inspector really tried to make it pass knowing that the car is stock and tried several readings from different angles but the pop from the exhaust would spike the db reading by ~3 db and exceed the 95 db passing limit.
After the inspection, I took the car to the dealer and they wrote up the confirmation letter that the car is stock. Aside from providing me the letter, they weren't able to help in any way. They suggested that I could get a muffler silencer temporarily to pass the inspection. Seems that I'll be having to take this to court, I'll update everyone when that happens.
In case you haven't seen the video already:
Edit: The inspection was done in sport mode. At least for the DCT model, there are still very slight pops and this is what caused me to fail the test. I never mentioned N mode to him and when he asked what the loudest mode is, I said sport. He put the car in sport after I showed him how, and he revved the car himself and wouldn't let me touch it during inspection.
As of now I'm waiting for Hyundai corporate to get back to me. Until then, I can't even get the car inspected again because I need to show proof that work was done to the car and that it is now "fixed".
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It's been a rough couple of weeks since my last update so I wanted to let everyone know what's going on with this situation. Also, thank you to everyone that has spread word on this, it is amazing to see how much traction this has gained, and how much support I have.
As everyone knows, the state ref inspection failed and afterwards I got the stock letter from Hyundai. I provided this to the state ref but they said that it doesn't mean anything and that technically, no repair was done, so I cannot schedule a 2nd inspection, which I need to get the car passed.
I reached out to Hyundai corporate and was assigned a case manager. After a few days, they got back to me and said there is nothing Hyundai corp can do to help me. They advised that I go back to the dealer I purchased it from and have them deal with it. From my first interaction with my Hyundai dealer, they already said they cannot do anything to the car because it is stock. That being said, I requested that the case manager send me a letter that I can provide to the dealer to do "repair" since I had already unsuccessfully asked for the repair in the past. The case manager said no. I asked for just an email confirming what they told me. The case manager said no. I asked if I can get the car bought back because I can't even drive it to the dealership and nobody is willing to help me. The case manager said, yet again, no; a buyback is not eligible because this hasn't happened 3 times...
So I was completely out of options and I started reaching out to attorneys. The following day, I get a call back from Hyundai corp from a new case manager. This case manager said the case has been escalated and that the previous case manager was incorrect by quickly denying the buyback. They had me send over all the related documents to this case (including all repairs, service records, and proof of ownership).
Today marks 2 weeks since this new case manager has been transferred the case and I have not heard news since. I tried calling over and over but it would go straight to voicemail. I had to reach out to my old case manager to get a hold of the new manager. Eventually, the new case manager called me and said Hyundai has nothing for me and that they are still working on a solution. I have told them in email and over the phone previously that the court date is in 3 weeks, and the state ref situation must be figured out by then otherwise I'll get big fines by CA. They said okay, we're still working on it...
To all the journalists out there that have gotten statements from Hyundai saying that they are working with me to figure this out: while it is technically true, nothing has been done besides tossing my case around person to person and wasting time.
Just like 2 weeks ago, again, I am out of options. Hyundai is not taking this seriously so I am speaking to attorneys to fight the citation. At this point however, I am so tired of this. I will most likely end up selling the car to Carvana at a huge loss just to get this case over with.
1 month ago
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It's been awhile and I felt I owe it to the EN community to give a mini update since the initial court date has passed.
About 1 month after I posted my last update, a new Hyundai manager reached out to me and set up a date to have my vehicle picked up for testing at HATCI (Hyundai America Technical Center Inc). They set me up in a hybrid loaner and I am still currently driving the loaner vehicle. It is unfortunate that I am still currently making payments on a vehicle that I don't have but Hyundai has agreed to give total $500 as compensation for this situation. It won't cover the monthly payments paid while not having the vehicle, but at this point, I'll take it.
Hyundai have confirmed a few weeks ago that there is nothing wrong with the vehicle. I assume that they will be holding on to the EN and I will be driving their loaner until the citation and state ref is cleared.
I've also hired an attorney that was referred to me by a user here. They scheduled my court date for February 23rd (since the date on the citation was the date by which I must have taken some sort of action by).
For the next few months, I'll just be waiting for February and most likely driving the loaner until then. Final update will be posted in Feb and I will be sure to lay out all the facts as I have come across quite a bit of misinformation regarding this situation.
flakrat
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Feel for the dude. What an utterly PoS communist state!
goatchze
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Here's a little insight from another source:

"The problem appears to be that the test was not done according to spec. As per the relevant standard, SAE J1492, the noise test is supposed to be done in "any mode that can remain enabled through a power on/off cycle," of which Sport mode does not qualify. The Elantra N resets to the Normal drive mode through a power on/off cycle."

https://www.thedrive.com/news/stock-hyundai-elantra-n-fails-noise-test-leaves-owner-stuck-without-registration

In other words, the test should have been done in Normal mode not "the loudest", i.e. sports mode.
Sea Speed
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That cop sounded absolutely giddy that he was about to jam the dude up for 7 grand. What a pos.
GeorgiAg
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Sea Speed said:

That cop sounded absolutely giddy that he was about to jam the dude up for 7 grand. What a pos.
Yeah, that was the most annoying part. You not only have some dumb law, you have to listen to snarky cop.
fka ftc
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Sea Speed said:

That cop sounded absolutely giddy that he was about to jam the dude up for 7 grand. What a pos.
That giddyness occurs elsewhere when people talk about locking up small business owners if an illegal is caught on premises. A lot of times they also call for confiscation of things. It occurs wildly throughout both R and D.
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The Fall Guy
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That sounds fake
Jugstore Cowboy
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Sea Speed said:

That cop sounded absolutely giddy that he was about to jam the dude up for 7 grand. What a pos.
Imagine how often that tool brags about his job and calling to be a "heroic first responder," while getting his rocks off on stops like this. I'm assuming that was in a small town that doesn't have gunshots going off everywhere.
rwtxag83
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I see both sides. Sucks he's having to deal with it, but having to listen to extremely loud vehicles sucks too. If there's a noise law, we should all have to comply with it. If the manufacturer sells a car that illegally exceeded noise standards, the state should get involved and shut it down.
Greater love hath no man than this....
fka ftc
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Let's just go ahead and expand it to IRS agents, dog catcher, city code enforcer, hall monitor and former student council participants.

All get their rocks by pretending to have authority through title or position and that the authority is equivalent to respect and demand both unapologetically.
"The absence of the word accountability is not the same as wanting no accountability" -unknown

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An Elantra?!
fka ftc
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Saxsoon said:

An Elantra?!
No no... a Hyundai Elantra N - High-performance sports sedan that is "track read".

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/vehicles/elantra-n
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IndividualFreedom
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I bet the dude with the car votes for democrats and will continue to.
LMCane
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honestly, If I was the King of the USA I would prohibit all these latino dudes revving their @#$@#$ Dodge Challenger fake cars and trying to turn Toyotas into Formula One racers

it's a PITA which only adds to noise pollution and makes my life less enjoyable waking me up in the middle of the night.

"hey look at me bro! I'm ssuper cool with my mufflers turned off!"
J.P. 03
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I bet this guy can help:

fka ftc
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LMCane said:

honestly, If I was the King of the USA I would prohibit all these latino dudes revving their @#$@#$ Dodge Challenger fake cars and trying to turn Toyotas into Formula One racers

it's a PITA which only adds to noise pollution and makes my life less enjoyable waking me up in the middle of the night.

"hey look at me bro! I'm ssuper cool with my mufflers turned off!"
I bet there are one to two folks around here who have boats that have silent and loud modes. Some probably have trucks that do it too.

Then motorcycles...
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GeorgiAg
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J.P. 03 said:

I bet this guy can help:


whistle go, whooo whooo
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flakrat said:

Feel for the dude. What an utterly PoS communist state!
Never talk to the cop
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GeorgiAg
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Bad language but very true.
Ol_Ag_02
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LMCane said:

honestly, If I was the King of the USA I would prohibit all these latino dudes revving their @#$@#$ Dodge Challenger fake cars and trying to turn Toyotas into Formula One racers

it's a PITA which only adds to noise pollution and makes my life less enjoyable waking me up in the middle of the night.

"hey look at me bro! I'm ssuper cool with my mufflers turned off!"


Yup. Screw these ******bags. This is no different than someone coming up and yelling in my ear because they like the sound it makes.

The noise level of these losers (mostly Mustangs and Challengers) fairly often surpasses the threshold of public nuisance.

Hope this happens more often.
i-miss-the-republic
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I normally disregard anything starting with "From Reddit"
frenchtoast
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Some cities have installed noise cameras that send a ticket to you in the mail if your car emits sounds above a certain decibel level.
Ag_of_08
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Been going on for months, actual video, court case is pending..... what part sounds fake?
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J.P. 03 said:

I bet this guy can help:


wwwoooooo WOOOOOOOOO!!!!
rbs03Ag
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He should stop posting stuff a message board and start posting directly to an attorney.
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LMCane said:

honestly, If I was the King of the USA I would prohibit all these latino dudes revving their @#$@#$ Dodge Challenger fake cars and trying to turn Toyotas into Formula One racers

it's a PITA which only adds to noise pollution and makes my life less enjoyable waking me up in the middle of the night.

"hey look at me bro! I'm ssuper cool with my mufflers turned off!"


The good news is that you are not king of the USA.
Ol_Ag_02
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rbs03Ag said:

He should stop posting stuff a message board and start posting directly to an attorney.


Super loud exhaust car guy usually isn't the brightest bulb in the drawer.
Mike Winchell
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It's concerning how many people in here are okay with laws like this…
Sea Speed
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schmellba99 said:

LMCane said:

honestly, If I was the King of the USA I would prohibit all these latino dudes revving their @#$@#$ Dodge Challenger fake cars and trying to turn Toyotas into Formula One racers

it's a PITA which only adds to noise pollution and makes my life less enjoyable waking me up in the middle of the night.

"hey look at me bro! I'm ssuper cool with my mufflers turned off!"


The good news is that you are not king of the USA.


Hardest working man in turning off mufflers, whatever the hell that means.
Ol_Ag_02
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Mike Winchell said:

It's concerning how many people in here are okay with laws like this…


I hate government. It's a necessary evil. I'm as libertarian as they come. I believe that you have zero right to not be offended.

However, I believe that crimes should be restricted to those activities that infringe upon another's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Loud ass ****ing cars, for the sake of having a loud ass ****ing car is infringing upon the general public. These are ear splitting, painfully loud, listening to it in your damn bed while trying to sleep, vehicles.

It's no different than me parking up in front of your house, on the public street, and blasting an air horn because I think it sounds really cool.

These people aren't expressing their rights. They're annoying the **** out of strangers 24/7 because they're immature dbags that like loud noises.
itsyourboypookie
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After reading the replies to this thread, I'm so glad I live in rural texas. The lady men on this thread that hate loud cars, red meat, fine whiskey, and wild women is what's wrong with America.

Y'all hate loud cars but won't let me silence my gun. Nannies
AggieKatie2
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Whatever happened to right to a speedy trial?
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
Ol_Ag_02
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itsyourboypookie said:

After reading the replies to this thread, I'm so glad I live in rural texas. The lady men on this thread that hate loud cars, red meat, fine whiskey, and wild women is what's wrong with America.

Y'all hate loud cars but won't let me silence my gun. Nannies


Love red meat and a wild woman. Only drink bourbon and I don't care if you silence every single gun you own.

Hope they fine every tuned up Mustang and bro dozer dodge driver with ear splitting exhausts. It's a public nuisance. No different than if I were to blare excessively loud music in a public park.

I'm sure you would be totally okay with someone parking their car right outside your kids baseball game and playing rap so loud it can be heard over the games PA? Guessing not.

Edit: As I type this my white trash neighbors kid is firing up his Mach 1 Mustang and revving his engine in the driveway. Can hear it clearly in my house. Hell I can hear when he comes home at night from my bedroom while I'm trying to sleep. Neighborhood filled with houses over a million dollars and only trashy family lives next door. No one likes them because every single person can hear that kids tuned out high pitch exhaust in their houses as he comes and goes down the street.
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We've got these kind of cops in Texas, too. Guys that will pull you over for going 2 or 3 miles an hour in a speed trap town like Los Fresnos. Pulling people over because they didn't slow down far enough before the reaching the sign entering town.

They must have quotas. I'm convinced it's a revenue stream for some of these places.
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