https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/01/20/google-cuts-12000-jobs-as-2023-layoffs-continue/?sh=25f92c6856fd

Google's parent company Alphabet announced plans Friday to cut 12,000 workers, while online furniture retailer Wayfair announced it would lay off 1,750 employees in a company-wide restructuring planas fears of a looming recession continue into the new year.

I'm in tech.

Tech is bloated.

How many of the 12,000 voted for Biden?

captkirk said:

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How many of the 12,000 voted for Biden?

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15,000

We aren't in a recession guys.

"We know we changed the definition of the word recession, but it was definitely outdated. Believe us and not what you actually see. Just trust us like the good sheep that you are."

Learn how to NOT code, I guess?

MouthBQ98 said:

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Learn how to NOT code, I guess?

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learn how to function in light

GenericAggie said:

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I'm in tech.

Tech is bloated.

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And Elon showed just how bloated when he took over twitter and the platform did not implode.

GenericAggie said:

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I'm in tech.

Tech is bloated.

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Musk has proven that. Maybe the rest have taken notice.



Hawg beat me to it

It's coming, and it's gonna be bad.

My question would be how many are (were) WFH?

MookieBlaylock said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Learn how to NOT code, I guess?

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learn how to function in light

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Naw is pretty dark in a coal mine.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Learn how to NOT code, I guess?

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Learn to plumb.

samurai_science said:

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/01/20/google-cuts-12000-jobs-as-2023-layoffs-continue/?sh=25f92c6856fd

Google's parent company Alphabet announced plans Friday to cut 12,000 workers, while online furniture retailer Wayfair announced it would lay off 1,750 employees in a company-wide restructuring planas fears of a looming recession continue into the new year.

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This is how it went in Q4 2022. They made some calls.

Tech Company: "Hi (insert employee name here) we would like to see you back at work 1/3/2023 at 9am."

Tech Worker: "Ummm....I want to work from home. I am still scared of COVID." (Worker checks that social media posts about his/her/it/they trip to Mexico and Tibet are private).

Tech Company: "That is no longer the direction we are going to. See you in January."

Tech Worker: "No sorry. I want to work from..." (Dialtone).

That is who I hope they are laying off.
The 5 hour work day bums that want to "work from home".

Almost time to buy back into the market

DTP02 said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Learn how to NOT code, I guess?

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Learn to plumb.

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Plenty of oil rigs hiring. Learn to roughneck.

TxTarpon said:

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samurai_science said:

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/01/20/google-cuts-12000-jobs-as-2023-layoffs-continue/?sh=25f92c6856fd

Google's parent company Alphabet announced plans Friday to cut 12,000 workers, while online furniture retailer Wayfair announced it would lay off 1,750 employees in a company-wide restructuring planas fears of a looming recession continue into the new year.

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This is how it went in Q4 2022. They made some calls.

Tech Company: "Hi (insert employee name here) we would like to see you back at work 1/3/2023 at 9am."

Tech Worker: "Ummm....I want to work from home. I am still scared of COVID." (Worker checks that social media posts about his/her/it/they trip to Mexico and Tibet are private).

Tech Company: "That is no longer the direction we are going to. See you in January."

Tech Worker: "No sorry. I want to work from..." (Dialtone).

That is who I hope they are laying off.
The 5 hour work day bums that want to "work from home".

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End WFH for company leadership and HR and they'll have the team back in the office in a couple weeks.

In my company these two groups are protecting WFH only because they take advantage of it.

I think it would be interesting to see WHO in these orgs are getting laid off. Is it the actual tech workers or is it the support staff? I am in tech myself and see way too many diversity officers, HR/admin positions.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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captkirk said:

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How many of the 12,000 voted for Biden?

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15,000

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Beautiful.

We need more egg/chicken farmers. Plenty of opportunities.

Charpie said:

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I think it would be interesting to see WHO in these orgs are getting laid off. Is it the actual tech workers or is it the support staff? I am in tech myself and see way too many diversity officers, HR/admin positions.

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I assume the HR / project coordinator types are the ones going.

Has to be. I'm still getting hit up by 2 or 3 recruiters a day. Pretty crazy

The Bobs are going in and cutting the fat.

captkirk said:

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How many of the 12,000 voted for Biden?

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Did they protect those who paint the rainbow on the G?

MouthBQ98 said:

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Learn how to NOT code, I guess?

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Be better off learning how to weld, paint, plumb, repair cars, etc. etc. etc. etc.

TxTarpon said:

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samurai_science said:

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/01/20/google-cuts-12000-jobs-as-2023-layoffs-continue/?sh=25f92c6856fd

Google's parent company Alphabet announced plans Friday to cut 12,000 workers, while online furniture retailer Wayfair announced it would lay off 1,750 employees in a company-wide restructuring planas fears of a looming recession continue into the new year.

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This is how it went in Q4 2022. They made some calls.

Tech Company: "Hi (insert employee name here) we would like to see you back at work 1/3/2023 at 9am."

Tech Worker: "Ummm....I want to work from home. I am still scared of COVID." (Worker checks that social media posts about his/her/it/they trip to Mexico and Tibet are private).

Tech Company: "That is no longer the direction we are going to. See you in January."

Tech Worker: "No sorry. I want to work from..." (Dialtone).

That is who I hope they are laying off.
The 5 hour work day bums that want to "work from home".

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WFH isn't the issue for everyone. Only for the lazy. I work from home 90% of the time and get way more work done. Day's I go into the office I end up working for several hours into the night after my kids get to bed because all the procrastinators in the office that want to chit chat and get off task. I politely as possible put them off but it still sucks up time. But when working from home I'm working. Not one of those that takes a 3 hour break to take the dog for a walk and go to yoga. It can be a very productive work environment for many. I imagine the younger generations don't handle it as well.

Charpie said:

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Has to be. I'm still getting hit up by 2 or 3 recruiters a day. Pretty crazy

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What kinda Tech work you do? I'm curious as I'm also in the field and am wondering how the market is looking.

TxTarpon said:

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samurai_science said:

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/01/20/google-cuts-12000-jobs-as-2023-layoffs-continue/?sh=25f92c6856fd

Google's parent company Alphabet announced plans Friday to cut 12,000 workers, while online furniture retailer Wayfair announced it would lay off 1,750 employees in a company-wide restructuring planas fears of a looming recession continue into the new year.

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This is how it went in Q4 2022. They made some calls.

Tech Company: "Hi (insert employee name here) we would like to see you back at work 1/3/2023 at 9am."

Tech Worker: "Ummm....I want to work from home. I am still scared of COVID." (Worker checks that social media posts about his/her/it/they trip to Mexico and Tibet are private).

Tech Company: "That is no longer the direction we are going to. See you in January."

Tech Worker: "No sorry. I want to work from..." (Dialtone).

That is who I hope they are laying off.
The 5 hour work day bums that want to "work from home".

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Except they will target older workers who cost them more money regardless of WFH, its what they do.

I primarily worked from home even before covid for a few years. But primarily because I have to work with people in China, India, and elsewhere in other time zones. All of my meetings are in the morning for the most part and if I would have to drive into the office during that time it would be an hour each day cut out of my possible meeting times...so no go.


Every company (tech or not) gets fat when things go well. It's the time you want to invest in growth for future profits. When times get rough, you cut back on those expenses as well as use the opportunity to cut employees who haven't panned out (underperforming or otherwise not worth keeping). The larger your profit during good times, the larger the cuts during down times will be. Just part of the game.

Rocky Rider said:

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TxTarpon said:

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samurai_science said:

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/01/20/google-cuts-12000-jobs-as-2023-layoffs-continue/?sh=25f92c6856fd

Google's parent company Alphabet announced plans Friday to cut 12,000 workers, while online furniture retailer Wayfair announced it would lay off 1,750 employees in a company-wide restructuring planas fears of a looming recession continue into the new year.

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This is how it went in Q4 2022. They made some calls.

Tech Company: "Hi (insert employee name here) we would like to see you back at work 1/3/2023 at 9am."

Tech Worker: "Ummm....I want to work from home. I am still scared of COVID." (Worker checks that social media posts about his/her/it/they trip to Mexico and Tibet are private).

Tech Company: "That is no longer the direction we are going to. See you in January."

Tech Worker: "No sorry. I want to work from..." (Dialtone).

That is who I hope they are laying off.
The 5 hour work day bums that want to "work from home".

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End WFH for company leadership and HR and they'll have the team back in the office in a couple weeks.

In my company these two groups are protecting WFH only because they take advantage of it.

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In my industry, we've actually seen people be more productive working from home. I still prefer the office environment, but certainly can't knock the ones who are working from home.

Wayfair cut 1750, but reassigned thousands to the Expensive Furniture Named After Children Dept in anticipation of a blue wave in 2024.

captkirk said:

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How many of the 12,000 voted for Biden?

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Why does that matter?

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End WFH for company leadership and HR and they'll have the team back in the office in a couple weeks.
In my company these two groups are protecting WFH only because they take advantage of it.

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Damn. That is still a thing?

You are 100% on the money with this.
I am still shocked this is still a "thing."

When the revenue line keeps falling from 2019 figures, the opex line keeps rising from 2019 and the bottom line keeps falling from 2019 levels they will be "wished well" or be back at work to save their jobs.

Are you going in everyday?
I hope you will move up the ladder with big $$$$ after the low productive group never returns to the office.