What happens when you stop taking a weight loss drug? Many people gain the weight back. (msn.com)

We really have turned into a "pill needs to fix my problems not me taking any action" kind of country.

Nature's miracle weight loss pill:

That's so weird, the same thing happens when I stop dieting.

Tramp96 said:

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Nature's miracle weight loss pill:

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AHHH RACIST BIGOT SEXIST FATIST

Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

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Fat storage is all about insulin, calories in and out mean nothing. Eat low carb and your liver will not store fat, it will use the sugars for energy instead of storing it as fat. It's simple.


Sucrose, Fructose, Glucose it all raises your insulin levels, then if you dont burn it your liver has to do something with it, and if you have insulin resistance then it stores it as fat (especially around the middle gut area). Sugar is also what causes Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease, not fat.

Your body does not store fat as fat, it goes out as waste if its not used, SUGAR is what the liver and pancreas have to deal with.

Also, Diet drinks cause your pancreas to dump insulin when the "diet" drink hits your tongue, because your pancreas only knows something "sweet" is coming and starts insulin production. Thus in fat people who drink diet soda Insulin Resistance gets worse and they don't lose weight.

TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

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Statin's are garbage and many have Number to Treat of a hundred or more:


https://maryannedemasi.com/publications/f/new-analysis-shows-statins-have-minimal-benefits

"We carried out a systematic review and meta-analysis of 21 statin trials involving 143,532 participants, using similar criteria to the CTT, and found no consistent relationship between lowering LDL-C with statins and death, heart attack or stroke.

Statins are very effective at lowering LDL-C, but in some trials, that did not necessarily translate into a meaningful benefit for the patient. "

the wife has insulin resistance and takes some sort of new medicine for it. She has lost 75 lbs. in some 6 months. Smoke show. Yes, she calculates intake and counts steps/exercise, but always has. Fat people should look into this and insurance companies should consider the drug as the cheap option. What is the medical term used when something is done to hedge against future issues???? Starts with a P I think.

IndividualFreedom said:

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the wife has insulin resistance and takes some sort of new medicine for it. She has lost 75 lbs. in some 6 months. Smoke show. Yes, she calculates intake and counts steps/exercise, but always has. Fat people should look into this and insurance companies should consider the drug as the cheap option. What is the medical term used when something is done to hedge against future issues???? Starts with a P I think.

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A natural way to reduce IR is to do timed eating, cut carbs, and go on long walks.

TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?

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Yes.

whytho987654 said:

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Tramp96 said:

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Nature's miracle weight loss pill:

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AHHH RACIST BIGOT SEXIST FATIST

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Thank you! But why are you trying to butter me up?

Couldn't tell from the article, but was that the BEFORE or AFTER picture.

IndividualFreedom said:

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the wife has insulin resistance and takes some sort of new medicine for it. She has lost 75 lbs. in some 6 months. Smoke show. Yes, she calculates intake and counts steps/exercise, but always has. Fat people should look into this and insurance companies should consider the drug as the cheap option. What is the medical term used when something is done to hedge against future issues???? Starts with a P I think.

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Likely Ozempic or Wegovy

Most people would rather take a drug than go on a walk. Pretty sad.

IndividualFreedom said:

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the wife has insulin resistance and takes some sort of new medicine for it. She has lost 75 lbs. in some 6 months. Smoke show. Yes, she calculates intake and counts steps/exercise, but always has. Fat people should look into this and insurance companies should consider the drug as the cheap option. What is the medical term used when something is done to hedge against future issues???? Starts with a P I think.

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Profiteering?

TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?

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Yeah, pretty much. A diet of meat, fruit, and vegetables will help you lose weight. No dairy, grain, processed sugar. Guaranteed.

samurai_science said:

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TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

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Statin's are garbage and many have Number to Treat of a hundred or more:


https://maryannedemasi.com/publications/f/new-analysis-shows-statins-have-minimal-benefits

"We carried out a systematic review and meta-analysis of 21 statin trials involving 143,532 participants, using similar criteria to the CTT, and found no consistent relationship between lowering LDL-C with statins and death, heart attack or stroke.

Statins are very effective at lowering LDL-C, but in some trials, that did not necessarily translate into a meaningful benefit for the patient. "

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What I experienced after 2 days of taking Statins
Statins = Rage Pills (I became so enraged by everything that it was like being the Incredible Hulk)
I had to calm myself down all day, and told the doctor never again.

NoahAg said:

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TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?

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Yeah, pretty much. A diet of meat, fruit, and vegetables will help you lose weight. No dairy, grain, processed sugar. Guaranteed.

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Yep. A cousin of mine did just that along with exercising(nothing extreme). He lost 100 lbs in a year and is now back to the weight he is supposed to be. Dieting is really as simple as what you said.

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Likely Ozempic or Wegovy

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It is called Muduro I think and yeah it seems to be like the ones above. Supposedly it works so well that it will be repositioned as a weight loss drug.

The word I was looking for was Preventative. When fat people (and I mean 100+lbs over an ideal weight) cut weight is mass form, they are helping to prevent a whole slew of potential issues. Just saying, an insulin resistance shot that keeps weight off vs. insurance dealing with the cost of all the challenges that fatties have has got to lower costs overall.

samurai_science said:

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TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

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Statin's are garbage and many have Number to Treat of a hundred or more:


https://maryannedemasi.com/publications/f/new-analysis-shows-statins-have-minimal-benefits

"We carried out a systematic review and meta-analysis of 21 statin trials involving 143,532 participants, using similar criteria to the CTT, and found no consistent relationship between lowering LDL-C with statins and death, heart attack or stroke.

Statins are very effective at lowering LDL-C, but in some trials, that did not necessarily translate into a meaningful benefit for the patient. "

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Except some people will produce way too much cholesterol on their own regardless of diet and exercise.

Without the Statin I take (and it took my doctor 2 years to find one which worked and didn't make me sick) my total cholesterol would be around 450 to 500. Doesn't matter what I eat or how much I exercise, it is stuck right in that range. With the statin, it keeps it at a normal level. Been dealing with the problem most of my adult life and tried every single diet, supplement, gimmick to help. Had my weight once actually below normal for a male of my age at the time and height, and the number didn't budge.

I'm not a fan of taking pills, but sometimes they are necessary.

samurai_science said:

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Fat storage is all about insulin, calories in and out mean nothing. Eat low carb and your liver will not store fat, it will use the sugars for energy instead of storing it as fat. It's simple.


Sucrose, Fructose, Glucose it all raises your insulin levels, then if you dont burn it your liver has to do something with it, and if you have insulin resistance then it stores it as fat (especially around the middle gut area). Sugar is also what causes Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease, not fat.

Your body does not store fat as fat, it goes out as waste if its not used, SUGAR is what the liver and pancreas have to deal with.

Also, Diet drinks cause your pancreas to dump insulin when the "diet" drink hits your tongue, because your pancreas only knows something "sweet" is coming and starts insulin production. Thus in fat people who drink diet soda Insulin Resistance gets worse and they don't lose weight.

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I'm curious about this...most of the mainstream literature and studies that a regular person comes across rubber stamp the idea that excess fat calories are stored as fat tissue. How did they get that wrong and could you link any studies that state otherwise?

Rapier108 said:

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samurai_science said:

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TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

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Statin's are garbage and many have Number to Treat of a hundred or more:


https://maryannedemasi.com/publications/f/new-analysis-shows-statins-have-minimal-benefits

"We carried out a systematic review and meta-analysis of 21 statin trials involving 143,532 participants, using similar criteria to the CTT, and found no consistent relationship between lowering LDL-C with statins and death, heart attack or stroke.

Statins are very effective at lowering LDL-C, but in some trials, that did not necessarily translate into a meaningful benefit for the patient. "

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Except some people will produce way too much cholesterol on their own regardless of diet and exercise.

Without the Statin I take (and it took my doctor 2 years to find one which worked and didn't make me sick) my total cholesterol would be around 450 to 500. Doesn't matter what I eat or how much I exercise, it is stuck right in that range. With the statin, it keeps it at a normal level. Been dealing with the problem most of my adult life and tried every single diet, supplement, gimmick to help. Had my weight once actually below normal for a male of my age at the time and height, and the number didn't budge.

I'm not a fan of taking pills, but sometimes they are necessary.

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Cholesterol is not the problem, the problem is sugar and IR.


The top Heart Doctor in Houston would have you drop carbs and get your off of Statin and Blood Pressure meds as soon as possible because they have the research it makes no difference. Who cares if the statins lower you LDL if it makes no difference in your rate of death or heart attack?

big papi said:

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samurai_science said:

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Fat storage is all about insulin, calories in and out mean nothing. Eat low carb and your liver will not store fat, it will use the sugars for energy instead of storing it as fat. It's simple.


Sucrose, Fructose, Glucose it all raises your insulin levels, then if you dont burn it your liver has to do something with it, and if you have insulin resistance then it stores it as fat (especially around the middle gut area). Sugar is also what causes Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease, not fat.

Your body does not store fat as fat, it goes out as waste if its not used, SUGAR is what the liver and pancreas have to deal with.

Also, Diet drinks cause your pancreas to dump insulin when the "diet" drink hits your tongue, because your pancreas only knows something "sweet" is coming and starts insulin production. Thus in fat people who drink diet soda Insulin Resistance gets worse and they don't lose weight.

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I'm curious about this...most of the mainstream literature and studies that a regular person comes across rubber stamp the idea that excess fat calories are stored as fat tissue. How did they get that wrong and could you link any studies that state otherwise?

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Yes, tons of studies. They have gotten lots of things wrong

big papi said:

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samurai_science said:

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Fat storage is all about insulin, calories in and out mean nothing. Eat low carb and your liver will not store fat, it will use the sugars for energy instead of storing it as fat. It's simple.


Sucrose, Fructose, Glucose it all raises your insulin levels, then if you dont burn it your liver has to do something with it, and if you have insulin resistance then it stores it as fat (especially around the middle gut area). Sugar is also what causes Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease, not fat.

Your body does not store fat as fat, it goes out as waste if its not used, SUGAR is what the liver and pancreas have to deal with.

Also, Diet drinks cause your pancreas to dump insulin when the "diet" drink hits your tongue, because your pancreas only knows something "sweet" is coming and starts insulin production. Thus in fat people who drink diet soda Insulin Resistance gets worse and they don't lose weight.

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I'm curious about this...most of the mainstream literature and studies that a regular person comes across rubber stamp the idea that excess fat calories are stored as fat tissue. How did they get that wrong and could you link any studies that state otherwise?

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I would recommend starting with Dr. Nadir Ali, chairman of the Department of Cardiology at Clear Lake Regional Medical Center in Houston.

LoudestWHOOP! said:

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samurai_science said:

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TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

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Statin's are garbage and many have Number to Treat of a hundred or more:


https://maryannedemasi.com/publications/f/new-analysis-shows-statins-have-minimal-benefits

"We carried out a systematic review and meta-analysis of 21 statin trials involving 143,532 participants, using similar criteria to the CTT, and found no consistent relationship between lowering LDL-C with statins and death, heart attack or stroke.

Statins are very effective at lowering LDL-C, but in some trials, that did not necessarily translate into a meaningful benefit for the patient. "

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What I experienced after 2 days of taking Statins
Statins = Rage Pills (I became so enraged by everything that it was like being the Incredible Hulk)
I had to calm myself down all day, and told the doctor never again.

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I've been taking them for years with no problems other than no longer being able to eat grapefruit.

samurai_science said:

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TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

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Fat storage is all about insulin, calories in and out mean nothing. Eat low carb and your liver will not store fat, it will use the sugars for energy instead of storing it as fat. It's simple.


Sucrose, Fructose, Glucose it all raises your insulin levels, then if you dont burn it your liver has to do something with it, and if you have insulin resistance then it stores it as fat (especially around the middle gut area). Sugar is also what causes Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease, not fat.

Your body does not store fat as fat, it goes out as waste if its not used, SUGAR is what the liver and pancreas have to deal with.

Also, Diet drinks cause your pancreas to dump insulin when the "diet" drink hits your tongue, because your pancreas only knows something "sweet" is coming and starts insulin production. Thus in fat people who drink diet soda Insulin Resistance gets worse and they don't lose weight.

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B.S. Dude. Absolute, B.S.

Not saying you can't be right in some instances for some period of time, but to say it this way...is wrong. very wrong.

(You are right about the fat intake not being stored as fat though).

Every time I go through periods of increased Dr Pepper consumption I gain weight.

Amazing!

samurai_science said:

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IndividualFreedom said:

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the wife has insulin resistance and takes some sort of new medicine for it. She has lost 75 lbs. in some 6 months. Smoke show. Yes, she calculates intake and counts steps/exercise, but always has. Fat people should look into this and insurance companies should consider the drug as the cheap option. What is the medical term used when something is done to hedge against future issues???? Starts with a P I think.

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A natural way to reduce IR is to do timed eating, cut carbs, and go on long walks.

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I can confirm this.

The wife and I have cut sugar, carbs, and starches in favor of lean protein and green vegetables. We eat five, small meals/snacks 5 times a day with a meal consisting of 4-8 ounces of protein and healthy servings of green vegetables. We also hit the treadmill at least once a day for 30 minutes to an hour depending on the show we are watching and filter in light to moderate weight training 3-4 times a week.

COVID and working from home with bad snacking habits just added pounds. She has lost almost 40 pounds in ~120 day and I have lost over 60 in ~90 days. The only thing we still need to work on is to further reduce our drinking and reduce frequency or size of cheat meals a bit more (2-3 per month).

Sleeping better, resting heart rates better, blood pressure in check, and energy has skyrocketed. We used Optavia (weight loss plan) as a guide, but dropped their food because there are better options that are not so processed. Example, they offer 100-200 calorie bars as small eating options. We prefer things like steamed edamame to what tastes like a lump of sawdust.

But to the original point, pills are nut a replacement for changing what you eat and activity. You have to find something that is sustainable and healthy.

Tex117 said:

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samurai_science said:

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TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

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Fat storage is all about insulin, calories in and out mean nothing. Eat low carb and your liver will not store fat, it will use the sugars for energy instead of storing it as fat. It's simple.


Sucrose, Fructose, Glucose it all raises your insulin levels, then if you dont burn it your liver has to do something with it, and if you have insulin resistance then it stores it as fat (especially around the middle gut area). Sugar is also what causes Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease, not fat.

Your body does not store fat as fat, it goes out as waste if its not used, SUGAR is what the liver and pancreas have to deal with.

Also, Diet drinks cause your pancreas to dump insulin when the "diet" drink hits your tongue, because your pancreas only knows something "sweet" is coming and starts insulin production. Thus in fat people who drink diet soda Insulin Resistance gets worse and they don't lose weight.

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B.S. Dude. Absolute, B.S.

Not saying you can't be right in some instances for some period of time, but to say it this way...is wrong. very wrong.

(You are right about the fat intake not being stored as fat though).

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Whats he wrong about?

Pookers said:

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Most people would rather take a drug than go on a walk. Pretty sad.

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Worth repeating. Most of us have very sedentary jobs which are killers. I try to walk/jog 60-90 minutes per day. Just carve out the time. Get some sun, breathe some fresh air, listen to a book and start to feel better in body and spirit. Your body is an amazing machine. Use it!

https://nypost.com/2022/11/21/weight-loss-secrets-from-kim-kardashian-jessica-simpson-and-more/

whytho987654 said:

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What happens when you stop taking a weight loss drug? Many people gain the weight back. (msn.com)

We really have turned into a "pill needs to fix my problems not me taking any action" kind of country.

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All gain no pain

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Brought to you by Pfizer, a cradle to grave business.

samurai_science said:

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TxTarpon said:

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Ok.
Eat steak and lose weight?


Drugs can help, but they cannot do it all.
It is like the people that take statins so they can maintain their Whataburger habit with a Bill Miller's chaser.

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Fat storage is all about insulin, calories in and out mean nothing. Eat low carb and your liver will not store fat, it will use the sugars for energy instead of storing it as fat. It's simple.


Sucrose, Fructose, Glucose it all raises your insulin levels, then if you dont burn it your liver has to do something with it, and if you have insulin resistance then it stores it as fat (especially around the middle gut area). Sugar is also what causes Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease, not fat.

Your body does not store fat as fat, it goes out as waste if its not used, SUGAR is what the liver and pancreas have to deal with.

Also, Diet drinks cause your pancreas to dump insulin when the "diet" drink hits your tongue, because your pancreas only knows something "sweet" is coming and starts insulin production. Thus in fat people who drink diet soda Insulin Resistance gets worse and they don't lose weight.

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almost none of this is true. Smh.