Take a look at the contract agreements one of the big allegedly conservative organizations included in a contract offer to Crowder.

Crowder's contract with The Blaze ended in December, and apparently he was trying to work with other content/media providers. I suspect that he is upset at either Fox News OR Daily Wire if I had to guess.

I have come to believe a lot of 'conservative media' is either deliberately or inadvertently controlled opposition.

Based on some of the penalties he mentioned around "de-platforming", I'm not sure it's Daily Wire he's talking about. Jordan Peterson was removed from Twitter after joining DailyWire and they really celebrated it.

But I could be way off as well.

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Take a look at the contract agreements one of the big allegedly conservative organizations included in a contract offer to Crowder.

Crowder's contract with The Blaze ended in December, and apparently he was trying to work with other content/media providers. I suspect that he is upset at either Fox News OR Daily Wire if I had to guess.

I have come to believe a lot of 'conservative media' is either deliberately or inadvertently controlled opposition.

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I don't see Crowder going to Fox. His audience isn't a bunch of boomers. Dailywire is my guess.

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100%. Dailywire being Fox 2.0; repackaged NeoConservatism for the next generation.

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Explain? What has DailyWire done?

My guess is Turning Point...Charlie Kirk's organization.

Given that Crowder keeps saying "Kids" when he's talking to people and Turning Point focuses mainly on high school/college, seems like their audience. They are also a little more "grass roots" along the same lines as Crowder so it would make sense they would court him.

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Really? They consistently take pretty hard right stances. Hell, Ben Shapiro (Orthodox Jew) disagreed with Candace Owens' support for Kanye's anti-jewish remarks but didn't take any action or fire her or anything over it. Matt Walsh is definitely not a phony. One of their goals is also to put out non-woke/perverted content for children, which I support. Fox has always pushed some of the raunchiest trash on mainstream TV.

Are you saying it's a big conspiracy and the owners and content creators are frauds who secretly really don't believe what they're saying or that they even align with the left? That is very very hard to believe.

I do think they are trying to make money though.

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Yep. Knowles is only real right winger on there.

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Absurd take.

There are thousands of examples I could cite, but Walsh has been relentless on the trans agenda.

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Seriously doubt it, Dailywire celebrates and fights cancellation pretty loudly. Shapiro has neocon leanings in some ways but certainly not everyone on that platform. Fox certainly makes sense. Maybe Turning Point. Not Locals/Rumble.

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This take.

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My guess is Turning Point...Charlie Kirk's organization.

Given that Crowder keeps saying "Kids" when he's talking to people and Turning Point focuses mainly on high school/college, seems like their audience. They are also a little more "grass roots" along the same lines as Crowder so it would make sense they would court him.

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This. That contract smells like one that a company would give as a standard contract to an individual with a growing, but not yet large platform, compared to the kind of people that Daily Wire has been adding to their stable of contributors, like Dennis Prager and Jordan Peterson. The only person Daily Wire has added in recent year that would fall under that category would be Brett Cooper. The other two individuals would NEVER sign that kind of deal. They are not stupid people, easily smarter than Crowder who likewise wouldn't sign that deal.

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That's absolute absurdity…

All the people throwing smily faces over the idea that dailywire is a neocon outfit are the same people who got in a tizzy over people calling cringshaw a neocon stooge a couple years ago.

Time will show this to be the case.

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Absurd take.

There are thousands of examples I could cite, but Walsh has been relentless on the trans agenda.

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Yea some of the opinions here on what is "real conservatism" are asinine

Real conservatism is owning the libs at every opportunity. Like Charlie Kirk!

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All the people throwing smily faces over the idea that dailywire is a neocon outfit are the same people who got in a tizzy over people calling cringshaw a neocon stooge a couple years ago.

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Provide evidence of your claim. If you were right, you would have some.

The daily wire sued the Biden administration over the vac mandates. Shapiro does have some neocon tendencies, but that company has done more good for growing the conservative movement with millennials and gen Z than anything. And frankly, it's not even close.

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The daily wire sued the Biden administration over the vac mandates. Shapiro does have some neocon tendencies, but that company has done more good for growing the conservative movement with millennials and gen Z than anything. And frankly, it's not even close.

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He's a gatekeeper pushed by billionaire backers. Fox News 2.0.

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The daily wire sued the Biden administration over the vac mandates. Shapiro does have some neocon tendencies, but that company has done more good for growing the conservative movement with millennials and gen Z than anything. And frankly, it's not even close.

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If the conservative movement gets more traction with millennials and gen Z once they leave their parents basement and become older it will be because of Crowder, Shapiro, Kirk, Walsh, and Tucker.

Some very strange takes on DW here.

If they are NeoCon or Fox 2.0 than neither of those terms has any meaning.

I can't imagine listening to these people all day long

Daily wire.

I do likes Knowles.

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So daily wire is too left for you? Let me guess, you think David Duke is a hippie?

So Crowder, who has barely supported alternative social media at all, posts a video on YouTube (which he joined after kowtowing to them in some way and then pretended he was standing up to them) is complaining about contracts?

How about supporting the parallel economy every now and then, Crowder?

The cynic in me thinks he is just hyping up making mud club another conservative content provider like the blaze, daily wire etc.

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The cynic in me thinks he is just hyping up making mud club another conservative content provider like the blaze, daily wire etc.

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You may be the only one who actually listened then. Seems pretty clear he's testing the waters and trying to start his own network.

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So Crowder, who has barely supported alternative social media at all, posts a video on YouTube (which he joined after kowtowing to them in some way and then pretended he was standing up to them) is complaining about contracts?

How about supporting the parallel economy every now and then, Crowder?

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Crowder hasn't been monetized on YouTube for years. There's always some kind of conflict brewing between him and YT. He's been suspended multiple time.

He's been using alternative media for a long time. That's what Mug Club is.

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So Crowder, who has barely supported alternative social media at all, posts a video on YouTube (which he joined after kowtowing to them in some way and then pretended he was standing up to them) is complaining about contracts?

How about supporting the parallel economy every now and then, Crowder?

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Crowder hasn't been monetized on YouTube for years. There's always some kind of conflict brewing between him and YT. He's been suspended multiple time.

He's been using alternative media for a long time. That's what Mug Club is.

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His own site/organization is not alternative social media like Rumble, Bitchute, Odysee, etc.

Almost none of these people put the investment into the other alternatives. This is Crowder trying to grow.

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Are you going to back yourself up? Or continue to look like an idiot throwing out baseless accusations?

It's Daily Wire based on the YouTube video removal & deplatforming restrictions. This contract was designed to limit Crowder's growing reach as it's guaranteed he gets YouTube videos pulled with regularity.

DailyWire is 100% controlled opposition that gets just enough leeway from its masters to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. For those that don't believe: DailyWire doesn't get videos pulled from YouTube. Ask yourself how this is possible?

That's what I got out of it also.

I was thinking Townhall and SRN?

I'm leaning towards DW as the one he's talking about:

He used to work for Fox News, so he wouldn't be gaining any new insights on their contracts. I'm sure they always seemed like controlled opposition to him.

Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro is big on accurate reporting and avoiding controversial takes. Also, it's been rumored that Ben Shapiro and Mark Zuckerberg are friends in some capacity. It wouldn't surprise me if Crowder gets the impression that they are in some way coordinating what is "allowed wrong think".