98PercenterAg said:

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So, so sad to see. I know a couple fellow believers who know the Pences personally. They are among the most devout, Christ centered families in US politics. Truly good and faithful servants to our commission

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Handing the country over to pagans is not a faithful servant. Samuel Rutherford would take an axe to Mike Pence.

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98PercenterAg said:

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So, so sad to see. I know a couple fellow believers who know the Pences personally. They are among the most devout, Christ centered families in US politics. Truly good and faithful servants to our commission

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Handing the country over to pagans is not a faithful servant. Samuel Rutherford would take an axe to Mike Pence.

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Proverbs 18:2

98PercenterAg said:

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The Debt said:

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98PercenterAg said:

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So, so sad to see. I know a couple fellow believers who know the Pences personally. They are among the most devout, Christ centered families in US politics. Truly good and faithful servants to our commission

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Handing the country over to pagans is not a faithful servant. Samuel Rutherford would take an axe to Mike Pence.

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Proverbs 18:2

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Getting biblical! What's Proverbs 18:2? I don't agree with who you replied to. Pence didn't have much power to hand over anything.

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98PercenterAg said:

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So, so sad to see. I know a couple fellow believers who know the Pences personally. They are among the most devout, Christ centered families in US politics. Truly good and faithful servants to our commission

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Handing the country over to pagans is not a faithful servant. Samuel Rutherford would take an axe to Mike Pence.

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Proverbs 18:2

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Piss away 1000 years of Christian hegemony because of your queer masturbatory piety. When you are tangential to workers of inequity and advance their cause by abdicating the iron rod, you too shall share their judgment.

I do like how evangellyfish can pull rando verses out to try and act wise without knowing a damn thing about church history.

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98PercenterAg said:

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So, so sad to see. I know a couple fellow believers who know the Pences personally. They are among the most devout, Christ centered families in US politics. Truly good and faithful servants to our commission

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Handing the country over to pagans is not a faithful servant. Samuel Rutherford would take an axe to Mike Pence.

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Proverbs 18:2

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Getting biblical! What's Proverbs 18:2? I don't agree with who you replied to. Pence didn't have much power to hand over anything.

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"A fool has no delight in understanding, but in expressing his own heart."

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Zarathustra said:

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F16 just loved them some Pence when he was vp.

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Once he stopped kissing the trump ring, pence became a spineless RINO.

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So you turned on Pence when he stood for the Constitution and the rule of law rather than participating in the orange snowflake's coup?

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I didn't. I'm imitating the " everyone that doesn't kiss trump's ass is a RINO"(((logic)))


Trumpers conflated Trump with conservatism and America (and themselves). As a result, any perceived attack on Trump is an attack on conservatism, America, and themselves. Even if Trump doesn't give 2 ****s about them.

Everyone here who is upset at pence probably bought at least one Trump NFT and is proud if it.

AggieVictor10 said:

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eric76 said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Zarathustra said:

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F16 just loved them some Pence when he was vp.

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Once he stopped kissing the trump ring, pence became a spineless RINO.

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So you turned on Pence when he stood for the Constitution and the rule of law rather than participating in the orange snowflake's coup?

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I didn't. I'm imitating the " everyone that doesn't kiss trump's ass is a RINO"(((logic)))


Trumpers conflated Trump with conservatism and America (and themselves). As a result, any perceived attack on Trump is an attack on conservatism, America, and themselves. Even if Trump doesn't give 2 ****s about them.

Everyone here who is upset at pence probably bought at least one Trump NFT and is proud if it.

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Wow, that post made you pat yourself on the back didn't it? You're full of **** and have no clue how the working class thinks.

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Just another establishment R turncoat. Nothing to see here...

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The turncoat was Trump. He led the Republican Party into abandoning principles.

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What principles? Compromising to whatever the Dems wanted...in exchange for temporary tax cuts?

The GOP has been taken to the woodshed since 2006, with 2010 the only blip on the slaughter, and the "virtuous" GOP squandered that victory because the party leadership is the swamp. You are a fool for believing the GOP actually wants conservatism or even wishes to slow the social trajectory. The party leaders are just as progressive as the Dems and the only difference is the messaging when they send out fundraiser letters for donations.

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I do believe that some part of the Republican Party has abandoned Conservatism. After all, they voted for Trump and Trump is anything but Conservative.

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No, he's always been a spineless RINO.

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The real spineless RINOS are those who didn't have the balls to stand up to the coup.

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You're talking about Obama, Cinton, Biden and the 3 letter alphabets, right?

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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I believe Mike Pence is a good man, a patriot, and a genuine conservative that would check just about every single box I check ideologically. I bet it sucks tremendously to work alongside Trump, but he handled it well.

That being said, he's not a bulldog, and we need a bulldog that is willing to fight with all his might against the godless cancer that is modern leftism.

Always taking the high road is a losing strategy and I think that's what he would try to do. We are up against evil, an anti-American evil that cannot be reasoned with, and needs to be treated as such. He's simply not the guy. Almost no one is. Realistically, Desantis is probably the only guy.

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He didn't harp on Trump until it was politically ok to do it. He is not a good man, he's establishment through and through, just sells his Christianity well. He's as fake as the rest of them. Only way he is where he is.

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While Trump was rubbing shoulders with the despots of this planet, Pence was working hard on such things as reducing federal support for Planned Parenthood.

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Lol I bet he was

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https://www.politico.com/story/2011/02/pences-war-on-planned-parenthood-049609?_amp=true
Just a RINO, amirite?

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Yes he is. Politico really, are they Pence fans now? That's new and screams louder than anything Pence says. The fact Eric76 is championing him, causing me pause.

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I'm not surprised that people who confused Trump with Conservatism would fail to recognize an actual Conservative such as Pence.

Trump was a bogus Conservative -- he was only in it for himself and never had a Conservative bone in his body. Pence was acting on principles, not what might bring him momentary gain.

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What are you talking about Eric? I don't confuse Trump with a conservative. I also don't confuse Pence as a conservative either. Trump was middle of the road and pissed the hard left off, that is why I wish he was still President and not what we're dealing with now. Pence despite all his convictions, will do what his handlers tell him. Trump doesn't have handlers. I get it you're a conservative but Pence is hard right, and that is why the left is pushing him. He can't win, he'll just give you conservatives reason to ***** why he wasn't elected. Quit playing the game for them Eric.

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Just who was Pence's handlers?

Hint: Pence didn't need handlers and had no handlers. He was working his ass off to support Trump.

I don't know how well Pence would do as President, but I know that Pence is just about the best you could find in a vice President.

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eric76 said:

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If he was a coward, he would have been the sycophant that Trump demanded him to be. He was quite the opposite of a coward -- a leader who stood for the Constitution when it needed it.

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Wrong.

He went along with Democrats, the Establishment, Academia, Big Tech, and the Media propaganda machine. When faced with the actual sycophants trampling the Constitution, he chose the path of least resistance.

Mike Pence is a Chicken **** Coward.

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Pence went along with the Constitution against a blatant power grab to replace the election coup.

AggieVictor10 said:

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eric76 said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Zarathustra said:

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F16 just loved them some Pence when he was vp.

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Once he stopped kissing the trump ring, pence became a spineless RINO.

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So you turned on Pence when he stood for the Constitution and the rule of law rather than participating in the orange snowflake's coup?

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I didn't. I'm imitating the " everyone that doesn't kiss trump's ass is a RINO"(((logic)))


Trumpers conflated Trump with conservatism and America (and themselves). As a result, any perceived attack on Trump is an attack on conservatism, America, and themselves. Even if Trump doesn't give 2 ****s about them.

Everyone here who is upset at pence probably bought at least one Trump NFT and is proud if it.

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Ahhh. My mistake.

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ShaggySLC said:

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eric76 said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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Ben Matlock said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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eric76 said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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I believe Mike Pence is a good man, a patriot, and a genuine conservative that would check just about every single box I check ideologically. I bet it sucks tremendously to work alongside Trump, but he handled it well.

That being said, he's not a bulldog, and we need a bulldog that is willing to fight with all his might against the godless cancer that is modern leftism.

Always taking the high road is a losing strategy and I think that's what he would try to do. We are up against evil, an anti-American evil that cannot be reasoned with, and needs to be treated as such. He's simply not the guy. Almost no one is. Realistically, Desantis is probably the only guy.

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He didn't harp on Trump until it was politically ok to do it. He is not a good man, he's establishment through and through, just sells his Christianity well. He's as fake as the rest of them. Only way he is where he is.

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While Trump was rubbing shoulders with the despots of this planet, Pence was working hard on such things as reducing federal support for Planned Parenthood.

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Lol I bet he was

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https://www.politico.com/story/2011/02/pences-war-on-planned-parenthood-049609?_amp=true
Just a RINO, amirite?

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Yes he is. Politico really, are they Pence fans now? That's new and screams louder than anything Pence says. The fact Eric76 is championing him, causing me pause.

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I'm not surprised that people who confused Trump with Conservatism would fail to recognize an actual Conservative such as Pence.

Trump was a bogus Conservative -- he was only in it for himself and never had a Conservative bone in his body. Pence was acting on principles, not what might bring him momentary gain.

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What are you talking about Eric? I don't confuse Trump with a conservative. I also don't confuse Pence as a conservative either. Trump was middle of the road and pissed the hard left off, that is why I wish he was still President and not what we're dealing with now. Pence despite all his convictions, will do what his handlers tell him. Trump doesn't have handlers. I get it you're a conservative but Pence is hard right, and that is why the left is pushing him. He can't win, he'll just give you conservatives reason to ***** why he wasn't elected. Quit playing the game for them Eric.

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Just who was Pence's handlers?

Hint: Pence didn't need handlers and had no handlers. He was working his ass off to support Trump.

I don't know how well Pence would do as President, but I know that Pence is just about the best you could find in a vice President.

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Disagree completely, life was better for us plebs under Trump. I said I feel Pence is a good person but he won't win a national election, which is why you love him right now.

Sh****SLC said:

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eric76 said:

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Sh****SLC said:

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eric76 said:

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Sh****SLC said:

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Ben Matlock said:

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Sh****SLC said:

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eric76 said:

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Sh****SLC said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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I believe Mike Pence is a good man, a patriot, and a genuine conservative that would check just about every single box I check ideologically. I bet it sucks tremendously to work alongside Trump, but he handled it well.

That being said, he's not a bulldog, and we need a bulldog that is willing to fight with all his might against the godless cancer that is modern leftism.

Always taking the high road is a losing strategy and I think that's what he would try to do. We are up against evil, an anti-American evil that cannot be reasoned with, and needs to be treated as such. He's simply not the guy. Almost no one is. Realistically, Desantis is probably the only guy.

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He didn't harp on Trump until it was politically ok to do it. He is not a good man, he's establishment through and through, just sells his Christianity well. He's as fake as the rest of them. Only way he is where he is.

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While Trump was rubbing shoulders with the despots of this planet, Pence was working hard on such things as reducing federal support for Planned Parenthood.

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Lol I bet he was

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https://www.politico.com/story/2011/02/pences-war-on-planned-parenthood-049609?_amp=true
Just a RINO, amirite?

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Yes he is. Politico really, are they Pence fans now? That's new and screams louder than anything Pence says. The fact Eric76 is championing him, causing me pause.

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I'm not surprised that people who confused Trump with Conservatism would fail to recognize an actual Conservative such as Pence.

Trump was a bogus Conservative -- he was only in it for himself and never had a Conservative bone in his body. Pence was acting on principles, not what might bring him momentary gain.

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What are you talking about Eric? I don't confuse Trump with a conservative. I also don't confuse Pence as a conservative either. Trump was middle of the road and pissed the hard left off, that is why I wish he was still President and not what we're dealing with now. Pence despite all his convictions, will do what his handlers tell him. Trump doesn't have handlers. I get it you're a conservative but Pence is hard right, and that is why the left is pushing him. He can't win, he'll just give you conservatives reason to ***** why he wasn't elected. Quit playing the game for them Eric.

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Just who was Pence's handlers?

Hint: Pence didn't need handlers and had no handlers. He was working his ass off to support Trump.

I don't know how well Pence would do as President, but I know that Pence is just about the best you could find in a vice President.

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Disagree completely, life was better for us plebs under Trump. I said I feel Pence is a good person but he won't win a national election, which is why you love him right now.

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Life was "better" only because Trump was out of office by the time the inflation brought on by his outrageous spending increases in 2020 & 2021 hit.

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ShaggySLC said:

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eric76 said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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eric76 said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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Ben Matlock said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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eric76 said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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I believe Mike Pence is a good man, a patriot, and a genuine conservative that would check just about every single box I check ideologically. I bet it sucks tremendously to work alongside Trump, but he handled it well.

That being said, he's not a bulldog, and we need a bulldog that is willing to fight with all his might against the godless cancer that is modern leftism.

Always taking the high road is a losing strategy and I think that's what he would try to do. We are up against evil, an anti-American evil that cannot be reasoned with, and needs to be treated as such. He's simply not the guy. Almost no one is. Realistically, Desantis is probably the only guy.

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He didn't harp on Trump until it was politically ok to do it. He is not a good man, he's establishment through and through, just sells his Christianity well. He's as fake as the rest of them. Only way he is where he is.

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While Trump was rubbing shoulders with the despots of this planet, Pence was working hard on such things as reducing federal support for Planned Parenthood.

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Lol I bet he was

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https://www.politico.com/story/2011/02/pences-war-on-planned-parenthood-049609?_amp=true
Just a RINO, amirite?

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Yes he is. Politico really, are they Pence fans now? That's new and screams louder than anything Pence says. The fact Eric76 is championing him, causing me pause.

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I'm not surprised that people who confused Trump with Conservatism would fail to recognize an actual Conservative such as Pence.

Trump was a bogus Conservative -- he was only in it for himself and never had a Conservative bone in his body. Pence was acting on principles, not what might bring him momentary gain.

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What are you talking about Eric? I don't confuse Trump with a conservative. I also don't confuse Pence as a conservative either. Trump was middle of the road and pissed the hard left off, that is why I wish he was still President and not what we're dealing with now. Pence despite all his convictions, will do what his handlers tell him. Trump doesn't have handlers. I get it you're a conservative but Pence is hard right, and that is why the left is pushing him. He can't win, he'll just give you conservatives reason to ***** why he wasn't elected. Quit playing the game for them Eric.

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Just who was Pence's handlers?

Hint: Pence didn't need handlers and had no handlers. He was working his ass off to support Trump.

I don't know how well Pence would do as President, but I know that Pence is just about the best you could find in a vice President.

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Disagree completely, life was better for us plebs under Trump. I said I feel Pence is a good person but he won't win a national election, which is why you love him right now.

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Life was "better" only because Trump was out of office by the time the inflation brought on by his outrageous spending increases in 2020 & 2021 hit.

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Whatever you have to tell yourself to get through what we have now I guess. You hate Trump with all your heart, I understand. You're lying in your post though. I would take Trump over this ever single day, the fact you wouldn't tells me how smart you are.

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No, he's always been a spineless RINO.

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Interestingly, he's more conservative than chump but 45 sets a low bar there.

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"RINO" means "republican I don't like" to many on this board

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coconutED said:

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If he was a coward, he would have been the sycophant that Trump demanded him to be. He was quite the opposite of a coward -- a leader who stood for the Constitution when it needed it.

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Wrong.

He went along with Democrats, the Establishment, Academia, Big Tech, and the Media propaganda machine. When faced with the actual sycophants trampling the Constitution, he chose the path of least resistance.

Mike Pence is a Chicken **** Coward.

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Pence went along with the Constitution against a blatant power grab to replace the election coup.

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The CM take by definitely not liberals

Who WOULDNT vote for Pence when he has the Concerned vote on lockdown!

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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No, he's always been a spineless RINO.

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Interestingly, he's more conservative than chump but 45 sets a low bar there.

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"RINO" means "republican I don't like" to many on this board

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Not a single actual conservative I respect in this board is saying "I want Pence"

Lot of Concerned Moderates all seem to love him though

Facts are facts

Donald "Bruce Jenner can use the ladies room if he wants" Trump, who banned bump stocks, locked down the US against the will of the people, and spent our tax dollars like they were his slush fund. That's the guy many on this board are so willing to defend while claiming that Mike Pence is in some way moderate.

The left is terrified of a Pence presidency. AOC herself said he is "the most vile definition of hard line conservatism."

So which is it, Trumpers? Is Pence a concerned moderate or is he too "hard right?"

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98PercenterAg said:

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I believe Pence was probably horrified and overly shocked/embarrassed by Jan 6…which doesn't make him a bad man, or "The Swamp"…just a pvssy, with his head in the sand who doesn't realize what we are up against and what needs to be done about it. Therefore, totally unfit for office. There's one guy at this point, Desantis.

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What would you like for him to have "done about it" on J6?

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He should have done the right thing. Got on camera saying that what those people did was wrong, but not nearly as bad as Summer 2020, and that he understood the frustration after a shady ass election that, at absolute best, can be chalked up to bad optics.

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There is pretty clear evidence that J6 was a planned "false flag" event with at least Pelosi and FBI leading the effort. Mike Pence must also know this, but has not called them out for it, and appears to be pointing at DJT along with them. This is enough reason for me to cross him off my candidate list.

Although I do think he is sincere in his conservative beliefs and seemed like a nice guy when I met him, he is not who is needed to fight the Dems.

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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No, he's always been a spineless RINO.

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Interestingly, he's more conservative than chump but 45 sets a low bar there.

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"RINO" means "republican I don't like" to many on this board

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Not a single actual conservative I respect in this board is saying "I want Pence"

Lot of Concerned Moderates all seem to love him though

Facts are facts

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who is saying they want Pence?

he's more conservative than Trump and is a better person. facts are facts.

I personaly would not support Pence in primary because don't think he would win general. But I'd happily support him if he were the nominee. (same goes for Trump)


do you think he's a RINO? If so, what are his liberal policies?

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The Debt said:

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TTUArmy said:

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Just another establishment R turncoat. Nothing to see here...

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The turncoat was Trump. He led the Republican Party into abandoning principles.

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What principles? Compromising to whatever the Dems wanted...in exchange for temporary tax cuts?

The GOP has been taken to the woodshed since 2006, with 2010 the only blip on the slaughter, and the "virtuous" GOP squandered that victory because the party leadership is the swamp. You are a fool for believing the GOP actually wants conservatism or even wishes to slow the social trajectory. The party leaders are just as progressive as the Dems and the only difference is the messaging when they send out fundraiser letters for donations.

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I do believe that some part of the Republican Party has abandoned Conservatism. After all, they voted for Trump and Trump is anything but Conservative.

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You were on a roll until this part………. Trump's judicial nominations in and of themselves negate your point.

98PercenterAg said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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98PercenterAg said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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I believe Pence was probably horrified and overly shocked/embarrassed by Jan 6…which doesn't make him a bad man, or "The Swamp"…just a pvssy, with his head in the sand who doesn't realize what we are up against and what needs to be done about it. Therefore, totally unfit for office. There's one guy at this point, Desantis.

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What would you like for him to have "done about it" on J6?

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He should have done the right thing. Got on camera saying that what those people did was wrong, but not nearly as bad as Summer 2020, and that he understood the frustration after a shady ass election that, at absolute best, can be chalked up to bad optics.

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So, all things he's said. What you're really upset with is that he didn't try to overturn, is that correct?

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No...unless I missed it (which very well could be the case) he was largely silent. He should have been LIVID after that "fair election", and made it known. I think he is a great man, just politically impotent. He belongs as an elder in his church, not at the upper echelon of politics, while the left wages an outright war against this country and our culture and everything that has made us great.

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The Debt said:

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98PercenterAg said:

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So, so sad to see. I know a couple fellow believers who know the Pences personally. They are among the most devout, Christ centered families in US politics. Truly good and faithful servants to our commission

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Handing the country over to pagans is not a faithful servant. Samuel Rutherford would take an axe to Mike Pence.

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Proverbs 18:2

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Matthew 18:6
"If anyone causes one of these little ones, those who believe in me, to stumble/sin, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

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I just described EVERY leftist...especially the white ones. We are up against EVIL and need to act like it. Not talking about violence...talking about taking the damn gloves off and fighting them head on, like Desantis has been doing. He realizes that they have been waging WAR and it this isn't just pep rally fun and games any more. Pence is a good man, he won't have lunch alone with other women, he'd be a good member of any church, but he is too lukewarm for what we are up against.

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eric76 said:

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TTUArmy said:

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Just another establishment R turncoat. Nothing to see here...

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The turncoat was Trump. He led the Republican Party into abandoning principles.

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What principles? Compromising to whatever the Dems wanted...in exchange for temporary tax cuts?

The GOP has been taken to the woodshed since 2006, with 2010 the only blip on the slaughter, and the "virtuous" GOP squandered that victory because the party leadership is the swamp. You are a fool for believing the GOP actually wants conservatism or even wishes to slow the social trajectory. The party leaders are just as progressive as the Dems and the only difference is the messaging when they send out fundraiser letters for donations.

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I do believe that some part of the Republican Party has abandoned Conservatism. After all, they voted for Trump and Trump is anything but Conservative.

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You were on a roll until this part………. Trump's judicial nominations in and of themselves negate your point.

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If you think he wasn't advised on these, largely by Pence in al likelihood, I've got a bridge to sell you. Trump is a populist, not a conservative. He praises the vaccine as mankind's greatest accomplishment and made fun of Sweden for not locking down. He's a moderate populist, which makes the left's burning hatred for him all the more humorous. In reality, they SHOULD hate/fear Desantis much much more. Only very few smart ones realize this already.

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The Debt said:

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eric76 said:

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TTUArmy said:

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Just another establishment R turncoat. Nothing to see here...

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The turncoat was Trump. He led the Republican Party into abandoning principles.

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What principles? Compromising to whatever the Dems wanted...in exchange for temporary tax cuts?

The GOP has been taken to the woodshed since 2006, with 2010 the only blip on the slaughter, and the "virtuous" GOP squandered that victory because the party leadership is the swamp. You are a fool for believing the GOP actually wants conservatism or even wishes to slow the social trajectory. The party leaders are just as progressive as the Dems and the only difference is the messaging when they send out fundraiser letters for donations.

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I do believe that some part of the Republican Party has abandoned Conservatism. After all, they voted for Trump and Trump is anything but Conservative.

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You were on a roll until this part………. Trump's judicial nominations in and of themselves negate your point.

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They weren't HIS choices, they were Heritage Foundation choices. THEY are the conservatives. His spending, anti-2a stances, tariffs, jobs programs show liberalism. He's just not a woke leftist.

don't forget he also wanted to push through amnesty as part of his immigration bill with Ryan, but the freedom caucus blocked it.

I voted trump 2020, and will again if hes the nominee in 2024, but the "trump is most conservative ever" crowd really didn't pay much attention.

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don't forget he also wanted to push through amnesty as part of his immigration bill with Ryan, but the freedom caucus blocked it.

I voted trump 2020, and will again if hes the nominee in 2024, but the "trump is most conservative ever" crowd really didn't pay much attention.

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Thanks, he did so much liberal crap I forget it all.

ShaggySLC said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Zarathustra said:

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F16 just loved them some Pence when he was vp.

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Once he stopped kissing the trump ring, pence became a spineless RINO.

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So you turned on Pence when he stood for the Constitution and the rule of law rather than participating in the orange snowflake's coup?

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I didn't. I'm imitating the " everyone that doesn't kiss trump's ass is a RINO"(((logic)))


Trumpers conflated Trump with conservatism and America (and themselves). As a result, any perceived attack on Trump is an attack on conservatism, America, and themselves. Even if Trump doesn't give 2 ****s about them.

Everyone here who is upset at pence probably bought at least one Trump NFT and is proud if it.

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Wow, that post made you pat yourself on the back didn't it? You're full of **** and have no clue how the working class thinks.

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Aw, sorry your guy lost and continues to lose.

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B-1 83 said:

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eric76 said:

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The Debt said:

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eric76 said:

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TTUArmy said:

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Just another establishment R turncoat. Nothing to see here...

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The turncoat was Trump. He led the Republican Party into abandoning principles.

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What principles? Compromising to whatever the Dems wanted...in exchange for temporary tax cuts?

The GOP has been taken to the woodshed since 2006, with 2010 the only blip on the slaughter, and the "virtuous" GOP squandered that victory because the party leadership is the swamp. You are a fool for believing the GOP actually wants conservatism or even wishes to slow the social trajectory. The party leaders are just as progressive as the Dems and the only difference is the messaging when they send out fundraiser letters for donations.

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I do believe that some part of the Republican Party has abandoned Conservatism. After all, they voted for Trump and Trump is anything but Conservative.

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You were on a roll until this part………. Trump's judicial nominations in and of themselves negate your point.

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They weren't HIS choices, they were Heritage Foundation choices. THEY are the conservatives. His spending, anti-2a stances, tariffs, jobs programs show liberalism. He's just not a woke leftist.

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Would a liberal President have let those nominations fly? He was certainly not a liberal in many of his policies (defense, judges, NATO, trade…..), but likely does not live up to the strict conservative standards of this forum. Nobody does.

B-1 83 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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B-1 83 said:

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eric76 said:

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The Debt said:

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eric76 said:

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TTUArmy said:

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Just another establishment R turncoat. Nothing to see here...

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The turncoat was Trump. He led the Republican Party into abandoning principles.

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What principles? Compromising to whatever the Dems wanted...in exchange for temporary tax cuts?

The GOP has been taken to the woodshed since 2006, with 2010 the only blip on the slaughter, and the "virtuous" GOP squandered that victory because the party leadership is the swamp. You are a fool for believing the GOP actually wants conservatism or even wishes to slow the social trajectory. The party leaders are just as progressive as the Dems and the only difference is the messaging when they send out fundraiser letters for donations.

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I do believe that some part of the Republican Party has abandoned Conservatism. After all, they voted for Trump and Trump is anything but Conservative.

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You were on a roll until this part………. Trump's judicial nominations in and of themselves negate your point.

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They weren't HIS choices, they were Heritage Foundation choices. THEY are the conservatives. His spending, anti-2a stances, tariffs, jobs programs show liberalism. He's just not a woke leftist.

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Would a liberal President have let those nominations fly? He was certainly not a liberal in many of his policies (defense, judges, NATO, trade…..), but likely does not live up to the strict conservative standards of this forum. Nobody does.

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Yes, one did. Trump.

It was a way he could have a legacy as PotUS, regardless of what ever else he got done.

He was leaps and bounds better than the other lib running either year, but that's just being the tallest midget.

Merry pranksters...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mike-pence-spokesman-former-vp-did-not-file-run-president-suggests-someone-pranked-media

"A statement of candidacy was filed for "Mr Mike Richard Pence" at 5:12 p.m. ET on Monday. Previous filings with the FEC have listed "Michael" as Pence's first name, not "Mike."

O'Malley declined to comment on the filing and directed Fox News Digital to send questions to the FEC.

A spokesperson for the FEC said it cannot comment on specific filings, but noted that the agency has a process for reviewing potentially fake or fictitious forms."

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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**** Mike Pence.

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And there's the Trump party line. Keeping it classy

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A Benedict Arnold is maybe a little classier.