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Suppressing Covid content. Promoting BLM riots. Promoting the lie that cops are committing genocide on POC. Suppressing bad news affecting democrats. Spreading lies about the vax and alternative treatments.

She totally glossed over all these big facts and focused on calling out child predators for who they are.

Sounds about right for a Dem.

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But, I believe in second chances. That is why I am giving those of you who on this board who have cheered on gay marriage, transexuality, gender fluidity and every other manner of redefining sexuality a final opportunity to stand against and vehemently deny pedophilia. That means you can speak out, on the record, that you were never for and never will be for pedophilia. When it comes into vogue in the near future, we can look back and see that you stood for truth on this issue at one time. Speak up or forever hold your peace.

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In before the inevitable "I don't support pedophilia but something something southern Baptists and Catholics"

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Because it's true. There are infinitely more criminal cases of sexual abuse of minors in the church than anything lgbt.

Specifically, Baptist churches…

So yeah go ahead and goaltender but it's still so fitting that this board focuses on a mostly made up enemy while not looking in your own house for the problem.

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Couldn't resist.

I don't like commenting in these threads anymore because there is rarely productive debate and discussion. But I just can't let this go here.

OP, the Rep here is not saying what you or the article is claiming they are saying.

They are not calling pedophilia an orientation or defending it. They are specifically talking about online rhetoric and the terms being used against the LGBT community. They are actually making the argument that pedophilia is a dangerous word to use and charge to level against a community that is not condoning criminal behavior. A longer clip that is out there would allow you to userstand this.

There is actually something dangerous going on with her statement. There is a misrepresentation of the terms and how they are being used by most of the right, but Daily Caller and you have either missed it or chosen to ignore it in order to make it a more shocking story.

But it does the conservative cause no good to misrepresent videos like this because it becomes a distraction from debating what is actually being said. The progressives will regain the upper hand in political discourse on these issues if you and outlets like daily caller continue down this road.

My advice is to pick your articles more carefully and seek out video that is more complete.

For a better understanding of what is actually going on in this clip from a conservative perspective I suggest listening to Ben Shapiro's show today. He addresses the longer version of this video clip in an accurate and more thoughtful way.

Most men who abuse children are not homosexual; most men who abuse children are heterosexual, but it is estimated that the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual abusers are 4:1, while the ratio of heterosexuals to homosexuals is around 40:1; meaning homosexuals are 10 times more likely to abuse children. This is backed up by peer reviewed sociological and psychological studies of repute.

https://www.bishop-accountability.org/specialtopics/abuse-data/2002-04-Abel-Harlow-Child.pdf

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00926239208404356

CDUB98 said:

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STAFF already doin' work in here. Wonder if any bans happened yet.

I wish I could compare the results to my predictions on these threads.

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Test. …since my post about memory-holing got memory-holed.

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BallerStaf2003 said:

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In before the inevitable "I don't support pedophilia but something something southern Baptists and Catholics"

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Because it's true. There are infinitely more criminal cases of sexual abuse of minors in the church than anything lgbt.

Specifically, Baptist churches…

So yeah go ahead and goaltender but it's still so fitting that this board focuses on a mostly made up enemy while not looking in your own house for the problem.

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While I see where you are going with this, and I generally agree, a lot of (and maybe even a majority) of the abuse cases in the Catholic church were cases of priests abusing post pubescent teenage boys rather than the typical assumption of minors meaning young children. This was undoubtedly homosexual in nature.

Don't get me wrong, a very large and disturbing percentage of the abuse was toward young children, which is despicable and has nothing to do with sexual preference (meaning gay/straight) and everything to do with age and being a sick, messed up human being.

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It's not "a lot and maybe a majority". It's over 80%. Over 80% of victims were boys ages 12-18. This was that vast majority of the problem.

I would also like to point out that NAMBLA was a member of the International Lesbian and Gay Association until the mid 90's when it was kicked out due to bad press and their funding being threatened.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7bd37e/whatever-happened-to-nambla

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At the time, NAMBLA hung around in the outer orbit of LGBT rights groups. But NAMBLA's sudden notoriety drew attentionand disgustthat such groups definitely didn't want. The International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) faced a firestorm of criticism in 1993 when it took on its prestigious role of speaking at the UN on behalf of LGBT groups all over the world. Right-wing groups slammed it for its connection to NAMBLA, and the ILGA cut its ties with the group.

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Most men who abuse children are not homosexual; most men who abuse children are heterosexual, but it is estimated that the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual abusers are 4:1, while the ratio of heterosexuals to homosexuals is around 40:1; meaning homosexuals are 10 times more likely to abuse children. This is backed up by peer reviewed sociological and psychological studies of repute.

https://www.bishop-accountability.org/specialtopics/abuse-data/2002-04-Abel-Harlow-Child.pdf

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00926239208404356

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I wonder what's the rate of incidence for men participating in drag shows targeting children?

Hint: 100% by definition

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Silian Rail said:

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Most men who abuse children are not homosexual; most men who abuse children are heterosexual, but it is estimated that the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual abusers are 4:1, while the ratio of heterosexuals to homosexuals is around 40:1; meaning homosexuals are 10 times more likely to abuse children. This is backed up by peer reviewed sociological and psychological studies of repute.

https://www.bishop-accountability.org/specialtopics/abuse-data/2002-04-Abel-Harlow-Child.pdf

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00926239208404356

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I wonder what's the rate of incidence for men participating in drag shows targeting children?

Hint: 100% by definition

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I'm not sure, but I know in Houston we had two convicted child sex abusers volunteering at drag queen story hour caught within a month of each other

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/second-drag-queen-story-hour-library-reader-exposed-as-convicted-child-sex-offender/

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I don't like commenting in these threads anymore because there is rarely productive debate and discussion. But I just can't let this go here.

OP, the Rep here is not saying what you or the article is claiming they are saying.

They are not calling pedophilia an orientation or defending it. They are specifically talking about online rhetoric and the terms being used against the LGBT community. They are actually making the argument that pedophilia is a dangerous word to use and charge to level against a community that is not condoning criminal behavior. A longer clip that is out there would allow you to userstand this.

There is actually something dangerous going on with her statement. There is a misrepresentation of the terms and how they are being used by most of the right, but Daily Caller and you have either missed it or chosen to ignore it in order to make it a more shocking story.

But it does the conservative cause no good to misrepresent videos like this because it becomes a distraction from debating what is actually being said. The progressives will regain the upper hand in political discourse on these issues if you and outlets like daily caller continue down this road.

My advice is to pick your articles more carefully and seek out video that is more complete.

For a better understanding of what is actually going on in this clip from a conservative perspective I suggest listening to Ben Shapiro's show today. He addresses the longer version of this video clip in an accurate and more thoughtful way.

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I won't disagree with this sentiment. However, our friends on the left are in no position, whatsoever, too decry the use of negative terms and slurs hurled against those they oppose. They Dems have bee referring to those on the right using the most insulting language for decades.

100% correct. The only thing that will bring stability back is to fight fire with fire. When one side is running roughshod over the other like the left has been for so long now, it is usually not a kumbaya that brings everyone back to sanity.

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100% correct. The only thing that will bring stability back is to fight fire with fire. When one side is running roughshod over the other like the left has been for so long now, it is usually not a kumbaya that brings everyone back to sanity.

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As a gay man the whole "groomer" thing has become annoying. However, I have to be honest in stating that as insulting and demeaning as that term is, when leveled at the entirety of the gay community, I can't get to worked up given what I see the left refer to those on the right, on almost a daily basis, as Nazi, bigot, _____phobe, racist, sexist, etc. etc. etc. The list is almost endless. So, both sides are now engaged in mindless and childish name calling. Welcome to politics in 21st Century America.

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policywonk98 said:

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I don't like commenting in these threads anymore because there is rarely productive debate and discussion. But I just can't let this go here.

OP, the Rep here is not saying what you or the article is claiming they are saying.

They are not calling pedophilia an orientation or defending it. They are specifically talking about online rhetoric and the terms being used against the LGBT community. They are actually making the argument that pedophilia is a dangerous word to use and charge to level against a community that is not condoning criminal behavior. A longer clip that is out there would allow you to userstand this.

There is actually something dangerous going on with her statement. There is a misrepresentation of the terms and how they are being used by most of the right, but Daily Caller and you have either missed it or chosen to ignore it in order to make it a more shocking story.

But it does the conservative cause no good to misrepresent videos like this because it becomes a distraction from debating what is actually being said. The progressives will regain the upper hand in political discourse on these issues if you and outlets like daily caller continue down this road.

My advice is to pick your articles more carefully and seek out video that is more complete.

For a better understanding of what is actually going on in this clip from a conservative perspective I suggest listening to Ben Shapiro's show today. He addresses the longer version of this video clip in an accurate and more thoughtful way.

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I won't disagree with this sentiment. However, our friends on the left are in no position, whatsoever, too decry the use of negative terms and slurs hurled against those they oppose. They Dems have bee referring to those on the right using the most insulting language for decades.

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Correct. That's the debate that we should be having about this congresswoman's statements. Not a debate about something she didn't say.

I don't believe being homosexual increases the likelihood of child rape, but I 100% believe that the left is engaging in the same normalization scheme we saw for homosexuality starting about 50 years ago.

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100% correct. The only thing that will bring stability back is to fight fire with fire. When one side is running roughshod over the other like the left has been for so long now, it is usually not a kumbaya that brings everyone back to sanity.

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As a gay man the whole "groomer" thing has become annoying. However, I have to be honest in stating that as insulting and demeaning as that term is, when leveled at the entirety of the gay community, I can't get to worked up given what I see the left refer to those on the right, on almost a daily basis, as Nazi, bigot, _____phobe, racist, sexist, etc. etc. etc. The list is almost endless. So, both sides are now engaged in mindless and childish name calling. Welcome to politics in 21st Century America.

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Part of the problem is there is no natural barrier for prevent "community" expansion. The glue is "inclusion and acceptance" of sexual deviancy which are antithetical to exclusion and condemnation.

The slippery slope is apparent even in branding: an ever evolving/expanding acronym.

If a group attracts the marginalized and fringe of society but lacks any mechanism to police itself or ostracize deviants who take things too far - then it's doomed to become entangled with the degenerates who see them as a refuge. You may see them as wolves in sheep's rainbow clothing, but from the outside there's no discernible differentiation. How do you expect us to intuit a difference between factions when we see almost no pushback against "drag queen story hour?" And even when we see it in things like "gays against groomers:" how do we even speak of it? What language differentiates you from a doppelgnger who supports exposing kids to kink?

Sexual deviancy begets sexual deviancy, primarily because the first moral delineation is the most significant and once you breach it there's no excuse or argument which cannot also be aimed at subsequent barriers.

At an individual level it's people stepping over institutional red lines & then drawing their own moral red lines without consensus or superior foundation. Our society is now awash with worthless faded red lines of moral relativism which march further and further into the taboo.

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6 pages

4 bans

1 perma

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I will be amazed if this survives 6 pages.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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100% correct. The only thing that will bring stability back is to fight fire with fire. When one side is running roughshod over the other like the left has been for so long now, it is usually not a kumbaya that brings everyone back to sanity.

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As a gay man the whole "groomer" thing has become annoying. However, I have to be honest in stating that as insulting and demeaning as that term is, when leveled at the entirety of the gay community, I can't get to worked up given what I see the left refer to those on the right, on almost a daily basis, as Nazi, bigot, _____phobe, racist, sexist, etc. etc. etc. The list is almost endless. So, both sides are now engaged in mindless and childish name calling. Welcome to politics in 21st Century America.

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Part of the problem is there is no natural barrier for prevent "community" expansion. The glue is "inclusion and acceptance" of sexual deviancy which are antithetical to exclusion and condemnation.

The slippery slope is apparent even in branding: an ever evolving/expanding acronym.

If a group attracts the marginalized and fringe of society but lacks any mechanism to police itself or ostracize deviants who take things too far - then it's doomed to become entangled with the degenerates who see them as a refuge. You may see them as wolves in sheep's rainbow clothing, but from the outside there's no discernible differentiation. How do you expect us to intuit a difference between factions when we see almost no pushback against "drag queen story hour?" And even when we see it in things like "gays against groomers:" how do we even speak of it? What language differentiates you from a doppelgnger who supports exposing kids to kink?

Sexual deviancy begets sexual deviancy, primarily because the first moral delineation is the most significant and once you breach it there's no excuse or argument which cannot also be aimed at subsequent barriers.

At an individual level it's people stepping over institutional red lines & then drawing their own moral red lines without consensus or superior foundation. Our society is now awash with worthless faded red lines of moral relativism which march further and further into the taboo.

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This is a very good post.

looks like plenty of the resident pot-bangers showed up outside of others that are apparently banned and sending unsolicited PM's to people

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At 76, I remember when the US stood for good and children were predominately safe. Life was good and people were friendly. Millionaires (don't recall any Billionaires) were just rich...not 'elitist with control mentalities. Doctors performed house calls and weren't under the govt's thumb.

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Russia and China had good moments too. Its the nature of all empires. It goes up and down. Some more erratically than others. Definitely in a negative swing at present.

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Representative Katie Porter, a member of the United States House of Representatives, has publicly stated that the term 'pedophile' brands someone as a criminal because of their quote SEXUAL ORIENTATION unquote.

Idiot.

And interesting that she seems to be implying that only homosexuals are pedophiles, since she clearly isn't defending "straight people", no victimhood there.

No one saying that. In fact, I would bet to say that most pedophiles are heterosexual.

Newsflash, pedophiles come in all shapes, sizes genders, races and sexual orientations. Although I think more are probably men.

Once again, gay people are not special, they're just gay. Just like straight people are not special, they're just straight.

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Well stated Annie

Any person regardless of their status in society who makes the conscious decision to sexually abuse children needs to be strung up and beaten like a piñata.

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I want to believe there is a way to fix what's happening in this country without a hard reset. I want to believe it. Just can't quite get there.

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This country needs to return to God...a revival. Change is impossible without it.

Turning our back on God is exactly how we got here.

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the religious right that was mercilessly mocked for the last 30 years was right about everything.

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For folks who didn't like the religious right (and it was admittedly deeply flawed), you should know that taking the religious element out of the right is only making everything worse.

OP fail.

Everyone needs to go back up and read Policywonk98's post. Calling a group of people pedophiles when they are not is a disservice to everyone.

Too many on this board don't even have a correct understanding of the definition of pedophile. Hint: Jeffrey Epstein was, by all accounts, not one. And no, I'm not defending his behavior or that of pedophiles...but words have meanings and proper usage that too many people tend to ignore.

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the religious right that was mercilessly mocked for the last 30 years was right about everything.

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For folks who didn't like the religious right (and it was admittedly deeply flawed), you should know that taking the religious element out of the right is only making everything worse.

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Well one thing is for sure, contrary to many other points of view, there has been no better time to be be the most stereotypical "intolerant fundamentalist" you can imagine. People's caricuture of Fallwell, you name it. Almost vindicated they are. I mean nearly i dotted and t crossed affirmed for every `box' to check that could be thought of, even the problematical women's say in church of St.Paul so many were vexed by. The 21st C has fulfilled all of the boxes you have to admit. This is actually a bad and hard time to be a centrist, or any kind that wants to try to bring things together.

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I want to believe there is a way to fix what's happening in this country without a hard reset. I want to believe it. Just can't quite get there.

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Ain't gonna happen! Too far gone!

zoneag said:

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In before the inevitable "I don't support pedophilia but something something southern Baptists and Catholics"

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the usual suspects will be here soon to remind us that people on this board want them dead or shunned b/c of their sexual orientation. Completely irrelevant to the OP but they'll be here and bring it up..AGAIN!.

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In before the inevitable "I don't support pedophilia but something something southern Baptists and Catholics"

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the usual suspects will be here soon to remind us that people on this board want them dead or shunned b/c of their sexual orientation. Completely irrelevant to the OP but they'll be here and bring it up..AGAIN!.

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It really is annoying how the gays come to the gay bashing threads and ruin the fun. Damn them all. Can't they just be quiet and let the gay hysteria run rampant?

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100% correct. The only thing that will bring stability back is to fight fire with fire. When one side is running roughshod over the other like the left has been for so long now, it is usually not a kumbaya that brings everyone back to sanity.

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As a gay man the whole "groomer" thing has become annoying. However, I have to be honest in stating that as insulting and demeaning as that term is, when leveled at the entirety of the gay community, I can't get to worked up given what I see the left refer to those on the right, on almost a daily basis, as Nazi, bigot, _____phobe, racist, sexist, etc. etc. etc. The list is almost endless. So, both sides are now engaged in mindless and childish name calling. Welcome to politics in 21st Century America. throughout history.

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It's always been this way.

I don't recall which president did it, but one of them basically ghost wrote an autobiography of his opponent, in the most unflattering terms as possible, published and widely distributed it leading up to the election.

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The Banned said:

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I want to believe there is a way to fix what's happening in this country without a hard reset. I want to believe it. Just can't quite get there.

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Can't do it unless we all repent and turn to Jesus. Those are His terms for healing the land.

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I think we're on the fire and brimstone path

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In before the inevitable "I don't support pedophilia but something something southern Baptists and Catholics"

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the usual suspects will be here soon to remind us that people on this board want them dead or shunned b/c of their sexual orientation. Completely irrelevant to the OP but they'll be here and bring it up..AGAIN!.

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It really is annoying how the gays come to the gay bashing threads and ruin the fun. Damn them all. Can't they just be quiet and let the gay hysteria run rampant?

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So no more watching Seinfeld or listening to Nugent?

The biggest indicator that someone is a pedophile is that they post on Reddit. We can't overlook this fact

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The biggest indicator that someone is a pedophile is that they post on Reddit. We can't overlook this fact

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Tell me you don't know anything about Reddit without telling me you don't Reddit.

There are so many people, communities, etc on Reddit I don't even know where to begin.