Collectivists love to swarm to these threads.

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You see no difference between having the liberty to do that which one should, and the license to do that which one can?

Is this the whole "good and bad are subjective so just let everyone do what they will" argument again? Moral relativism sucks.

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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/libertines-leftists-and-libertarians-david-french/

The whole thread reminds me of the the libertines who think themselves libertarian.

Is Silian Rail the poster formerly known as "Bustupachifferobe"?

B-1 83 said:

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Is Silian Rail the poster formerly known as "Bustupachifferobe"?

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That would make so much sense.

Ol_Ag_02 said:

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B-1 83 said:

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Is Silian Rail the poster formerly known as "Bustupachifferobe"?

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That would make so much sense.

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What was notable about him?

Charpie said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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B-1 83 said:

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Is Silian Rail the poster formerly known as "Bustupachifferobe"?

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That would make so much sense.

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What was notable about him?

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Militant theocratic lunatic.

So my putting him on ignore is justified.

I actually leaning pretty hard to the idea OP is a false flag attempting to make all believers look like nutcases.

I know and discuss religious beliefs with hundreds of people, none of which take the positions OP is trying to lay out here when it involves government control

I don't think so. He was a South African (or an advocate) and constantly went to that perspective. Have not seen that here. He appears to be simply one of this new movement of Vatican I or anti- Novus Ordo (and there are good arguments) Catholics. Very anti-pill and all that too. If you read through that long article you will understand where that movement is coming from -- its the opposition to that agenda. From some posts have seen on the board, it does indeed appear to be growing. Which is interesting.

Waffledynamics said:

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How the hell did this go from a thread about porn needing to be criminalized to healthcare?

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Beats, err, me.

Texaggie7nine said:

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Collectivists love to swarm to these threads.

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You may have missed it, but OP supports higher taxes and universal healthcare and education.

FrioAg 00 said:

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I actually leaning pretty hard to the idea OP is a false flag attempting to make all believers look like nutcases.

I know and discuss religious beliefs with hundreds of people, none of which take the positions OP is trying to lay out here when it involves government control

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That's pretty ridiculous since I'm friends with literally a dozen people on here in real life, and they all know my beliefs.

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Waffledynamics said:

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How the hell did this go from a thread about porn needing to be criminalized to healthcare?

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because you gotta take your girl to the emergency room after you choke her out.

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I laughed

Silian Rail said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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I actually leaning pretty hard to the idea OP is a false flag attempting to make all believers look like nutcases.

I know and discuss religious beliefs with hundreds of people, none of which take the positions OP is trying to lay out here when it involves government control

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That's pretty ridiculous since I'm friends with literally a dozen people on here in real life, and they all know my beliefs.

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Nutcases have friends, too.

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Collectivists love to swarm to these threads.

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You may have missed it, but OP supports higher taxes and universal healthcare and education.

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That's my point. The Alt-right and Alt-right sympathetic posters like that love to call for strict, forced adherence to their version of what life should be about.

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Any notion of controlling porn, not that there was ever much of a chance, has the same chance of success as gun control legislation. It is simply too late. The porn, like the guns, are already out there. There is no putting the genie back in the bottle on this one. So long as the internet exists there will be free and easy access to porn.

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You can't stop underage drinking or smoking with laws, but we still have laws against it and punish adults who sell to minors. Porn is turning young men into sexual bulimics.

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And laws exist relating to age restrictions in gaining access to porn. So, using your comparison to children and alcohol we should be good. What more do you want?

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Youre just scratching the surface of what he wants.

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Tell us what I want Yoel.

Silian Rail said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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I actually leaning pretty hard to the idea OP is a false flag attempting to make all believers look like nutcases.

I know and discuss religious beliefs with hundreds of people, none of which take the positions OP is trying to lay out here when it involves government control

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That's pretty ridiculous since I'm friends with literally a dozen people on here in real life, and they all know my beliefs.

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Well, then while I may agree with some of your moral opinions - IMHO you clearly didn't pay a lot of attention to how Jesus called people in or how he appealed to us sinners to make changes in our lives I don't see anything in his teachings that would support using the a human government to impose morality. (Which has always failed, every time)

FrioAg 00 said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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I actually leaning pretty hard to the idea OP is a false flag attempting to make all believers look like nutcases.

I know and discuss religious beliefs with hundreds of people, none of which take the positions OP is trying to lay out here when it involves government control

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That's pretty ridiculous since I'm friends with literally a dozen people on here in real life, and they all know my beliefs.

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Well, then while I may agree with some of your moral opinions - IMHO you clearly didn't pay a lot of attention to how Jesus called people in or how he appealed to us sinners to make changes in our lives I don't see anything in his teachings that would support using the a human government to impose morality. (Which has always failed, every time)

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Jesus was a lot bigger fan of authority than you know, even though the Sanhedrin were absolute hypocrites he acknowledged that they needed to be obeyed if not emulated as they sat in the seat of Moses.

Secondly, every government in existence provided they have actually enshrined a law has imposed morality. Concepts such as consent, the difference in misdemeanors and felonies, and mal in se or mala prohibita all rest on ancient moral codes.

Texaggie7nine said:

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Faustus said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Collectivists love to swarm to these threads.

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You may have missed it, but OP supports higher taxes and universal healthcare and education.

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That's my point. The Alt-right and Alt-right sympathetic posters like that love to call for strict, forced adherence to their version of what life should be about.

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My apologies then.

https://www.xbiz.com/news/270761/utah-republican-senator-mike-lee-introduces-bill-to-outlaw-all-porn-nationwide

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Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) this week introduced the Interstate Obscenity Definition Act (IODA), a bill that nominally aims to "establish a national definition of obscenity" but which would, in effect, outlaw all online sexual content nationwide.

The United States does not currently have a national definition of obscenity. Jurisprudence has established the Miller Test, which has been a legal standard in federal courts for a half-century. According to a statement from Lee's office, however, the Utah senator believes that it is time to codify those standards, set in 1973, under which the production and distribution of sexual content have been legal in the United States.

According to Lee, "The Supreme Court has struggled to define obscenity, and its current definition under the 'Miller Test' runs into serious challenges when applied to the internet."
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Lee's proposed redefinition of "obscenity" would eliminate Miller Test references to "contemporary community standards" and "applicable state law," instead defining obscene content as any material that "(i) taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest in nudity, sex, or excretion, (ii) depicts, describes or represents actual or simulated sexual acts with the objective intent to arouse, titillate, or gratify the sexual desires of a person, and, (iii) taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value."
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It's not actually happening, but I thought SR would approve of the attempt.

Haha. Wait a waste of time. People will continue to get in a good tug while watching porn so long as there is the internet.

Looks like under the Theocracy homosexuality will not be a crime, and the Catholic Church will work to repeal laws in countries that criminalize it. Also bishops should welcome L.G.B.T.Q. in the church.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/25/world/europe/pope-francis-homosexuality.html

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Pope Francis condemned "unjust" laws that criminalize homosexuality in an interview with The Associated Press that was published on Wednesday, adding that the Roman Catholic Church should do more to put an end to such legislation and that bishops should welcome L.G.B.T.Q. people into the church, especially in countries where such laws exist.

"Being homosexual is not a crime," Francis said in the interview, adding that God loves all his children just as they are. Francis called on all countries with laws criminalizing homosexuality 67 of them in total, including nearly a dozen that have the death penalty, he noted to undo those laws. "That's wrong. It's very wrong. I don't think anyone should be discriminated against," he said. Several of the countries are in Africa, which the pope will visit next week.

Asked whether the church should work toward repealing the laws, Francis said, "Yes, yes, they have to do it, they have to do it."
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"First, let us distinguish sin from crime," Francis said during the 75-minute interview conducted on Tuesday in Santa Marta, the Vatican hotel he calls home. "But it is also a sin to lack charity with one another."
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The Theocracy advocates may need to slow their roll on criminalizing sins given the church's stance.

Pay, in case you are not able to see this for yourself, Pope Francis an heretic. His position is not Biblical. God does love is all. But he wants us to stop sinning. Jesus did associate with prostitutes and criminals. But he told them to stop winning.

Texaggie7nine said:

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Faustus said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Collectivists love to swarm to these threads.

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You may have missed it, but OP supports higher taxes and universal healthcare and education.

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That's my point. The Alt-right and Alt-right sympathetic posters like that love to call for strict, forced adherence to their version of what life should be about.

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So it only applies to the "alt-right", huh?

My apologies for the paywall.

I think you have a certain number of articles you can read per month for free, but since I have a sub I never think about it.

Here is a free article:
https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-gay-rights-ap-interview-1359756ae22f27f87c1d4d6b9c8ce212

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Pope Francis criticized laws that criminalize homosexuality as "unjust," saying God loves all his children just as they are and called on Catholic bishops who support the laws to welcome LGBTQ people into the church.

"Being homosexual isn't a crime," Francis said during an exclusive interview Tuesday with The Associated Press.

Francis acknowledged that Catholic bishops in some parts of the world support laws that criminalize homosexuality or discriminate against LGBTQ people, and he himself referred to the issue in terms of "sin." But he attributed such attitudes to cultural backgrounds, and said bishops in particular need to undergo a process of change to recognize the dignity of everyone.
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Some 67 countries or jurisdictions worldwide criminalize consensual same-sex sexual activity, 11 of which can or do impose the death penalty, according to The Human Dignity Trust, which works to end such laws. Experts say even where the laws are not enforced, they contribute to harassment, stigmatization and violence against LGBTQ people.
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Declaring such laws "unjust," Francis said the Catholic Church can and should work to put an end to them. "It must do this. It must do this," he said.

Francis quoted the Catechism of the Catholic Church in saying gay people must be welcomed and respected, and should not be marginalized or discriminated against.

"We are all children of God, and God loves us as we are and for the strength that each of us fights for our dignity," Francis said, speaking to the AP in the Vatican hotel where he lives.

Francis' remarks come ahead of a trip to Africa, where such laws are common, as they are in the Middle East. Many date from British colonial times or are inspired by Islamic law. Some Catholic bishops have strongly upheld them as consistent with Vatican teaching, while others have called for them to be overturned as a violation of basic human dignity.
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I can see how Protestants might not agree with that, but it seems pretty binding on our Theocracy folks, given their respect for the Catholic Church.

Also Pope Francis says it's a sin, but the Church stands against criminalizing it and will work to undo laws against it.

Not for everyone though

Is it bad if a hottie wants to tie you up and go to town on you? Asking for a friend?

"Sexual choking is now so common that many young people don't think it even requires consent. That's a problem"

I read nowhere in that article about the percentage that don't think choking require consent.

Unless you can find hard facts there is no need to shut down the institution of pornography.

What was the slogan? No means yes, yes means anal?

Pretty much The Church's position for some time. Jesus loves you, come to Mass, BUT you aren't taking Holy Communion.

Who can forget this hard core stuff........?



The entire Sears Catalog staff should be doing hard time.


IT'S A PAGE FROM THE OLD SEARS CATALOG FOR GOD'S SAKE, STAFF. WE SEE SWIMSUIT PICS THAT SHOW MORE. REVIEW IT AND LETS GET ON WITH THE HILARITY THAT THIS THREAD HAS TURNED INTO.