Even hard core Trumpist Erick Erickson is now throwing in the towel:

"I want to be very clear here Herschel Walker did not need Donald Trump to win the GOP primary. He is, after all, Herschel Walker. Herschel Walker did not lose because of Trump, per se.


But Herschel Walker would never have entered the race but for Donald Trump convincing him to run.

The other candidates in the GOP primary included the state's Agriculture Commissioner; a Navy SEAL; a homebuilder who founded Black Voters for Trump; and a former state representative.

None could overcome the Walker star power or the Trump endorsement in the GOP primary.

Donald Trump picks the weakest candidates, and those tied to Trump lose in places that matter.

More than being tied to Trump, the story of Walker is that the candidate's quality absolutely matters. Anyone who tells you Herschel Walker was a top-tier candidate should be ignored.

His performance and baggage, all known going into this race, meant he should have been deterred from getting in."

Erick Erickson Accepts Reality

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I really think you gravitate towards her because she is an attractive middle aged woman with a lot of anger towards liberals.

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Well, it's a turn on for sure

rocky the dog said:

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Did someone say "cheating"?

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Has he spent much time in inner city Atlanta?

I'm assuming no.

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Teslag said:

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Warnock wasn't great, he just wasn't terrible. And that's all they needed him to be.

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How was Walker objectively worse?

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Walker was not nearly as polished. That is a given.

Warnock had $$ and media that refused to cover any of his actual issues (abuse, etc).


Any "concerned moderate" who either 1) voted for Warnock or 2) did not vote for either got played big time...or...is what we are now realizing concerned moderates are...liberal.

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I want to speak for myself, but I think I represent a contingent of voters. I reject the notion that there are two sides, and I have to pick one because the other one is evil. At the end of the day I want competent people making reasonable choices for America. My politics are more center left, but I would vote for someone like Ron DeSantis, who I think that is a competent leader, then Joe Biden. Anyone on the Trump train screaming that 2020 was stolen is an automatic hard pass.

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This is so naive and ridiculous.

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Just remember that every candidate Trump supported in toss-up Senate races lost. EVERY ONE OF THEM!!

The man has gone off the deep end and is toxic to any chance of conservatives ever holding a true majority again. I'm saying this as someone that voted for him.

It's time to ditch his narcissistic ass!

DeSantis '24

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Maybe or maybe not. Yes, the candidates thrown out there weren't great, but the where those Senate seats were lost are directly due to the idiots that didn't go vote. The Democrats didn't have that problem. Look at Pennsylvania. They voted for a vegetable to be their Senator. The Republican non-voters are as much as to blame as anyone. Republicans are their own worst enemy. Look at all the fighting and finger pointing between the RHINOS and the more conservative parts of the party when it came to the candidates. Beyond stupid and ridiculous. They are no better than the Democrats. Politicians are 99% all the same, especially the established politicians.

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You assume that his goal is to give the Republican Party more power rather than a more bland elect the best possible leaders for America. When you start with a premise that voting for Republicans no matter what is the same thing as voting to make America a better country, you'll be disappointed when some of us reject that premise.

I would have voted Oz over Fetterman, Abbott over Beto, Warnock over Walker, Hobbs over Lake, DeSantis over Biden, third party over Biden or Trump.

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This just demonstrates how naive you are. And actually, I think a bit of it is narcissism on your part.

If you want to just attack me as a naive narcissist, that's your right to do so, but I prefer to engage with posters that try to engage with arguments rather than insults.

Gigem314 said:

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Lake wasn't a bad candidate.

But Oz and Walker weren't "local" guys. Just a distant history there.

Republicans also need to learn to play the game.

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Lake was a laughable candidate.
1) donated to Obama multiple times before executing a patently opportunistic party flip.
2) her whole campaign strategy was "I'm going to be the female Trump" in a state that rejected Trump in 2020.
3) showed an inexcusable lack of strategic vision. I think McCain was a narcissistic war monger, but they love him in AZ whether that's intelligent or not. Insulting him as Lake did just to win a second of approval from daddy Trump was mindblowingly stupid. It didn't win her a single vote but lost her tens of thousands.

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Warnock wasn't great, he just wasn't terrible. And that's all they needed him to be.

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How was Walker objectively worse?

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Walker was not nearly as polished. That is a given.

Warnock had $$ and media that refused to cover any of his actual issues (abuse, etc).


Any "concerned moderate" who either 1) voted for Warnock or 2) did not vote for either got played big time...or...is what we are now realizing concerned moderates are...liberal.

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I want to speak for myself, but I think I represent a contingent of voters. I reject the notion that there are two sides, and I have to pick one because the other one is evil. At the end of the day I want competent people making reasonable choices for America. My politics are more center left, but I would vote for someone like Ron DeSantis, who I think that is a competent leader, then Joe Biden. Anyone on the Trump train screaming that 2020 was stolen is an automatic hard pass.

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This is so naive and ridiculous.

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And unrealistic. There are no competent Democrats nor do they ever make reasonable choices for America.

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If you want to just attack me as a naive narcissist, that's your right to do so, but I prefer to engage with posters that try to engage with arguments rather than insults.

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Don't let them beat it out of you. Its your view (one I also share), that will raise the quality of candidates and raise this country to a better place than then the view posturized by some of these people.

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Gigem314 said:

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Lake wasn't a bad candidate.

But Oz and Walker weren't "local" guys. Just a distant history there.

Republicans also need to learn to play the game.

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Lake was a laughable candidate.
1) donated to Obama multiple times before executing a patently opportunistic party flip.
2) her whole campaign strategy was "I'm going to be the female Trump" in a state that rejected Trump in 2020.
3) showed an inexcusable lack of strategic vision. I think McCain was a narcissist war monger, but they love him in AZ whether that's intelligent or not. Insulting him as Lake did just to win a second of approval from daddy Trump was mindblowingly stupid. It didn't win her a single vote but lost her tens of thousands.

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Travis just gets it

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Maybe desantis should support candidates and see how they do.

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Uh, have you been asleep the last 30 days and not seen the results in the state of Florida?!

By Tyler Kingkade

Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, who won re-election in a landslide Tuesday, threw his political weight behind 30 school board candidates this election cycle.

Nearly all of them won.

It was unusual to see a sitting governor wade into what are officially nonpartisan races that historically have been overlooked by big donors and the national media. But DeSantis is widely considered an aspirational candidate for the GOP presidential nomination, and the endorsements show how culture war issues will likely be the backbone of his bid in 2024, political experts said.

In his victory speech Tuesday night, DeSantis declared that "Florida is where woke goes to die." With most of the school board candidates backed by Democrats losing in their races this year, it's another sign of Florida's transition from a swing state to a reliably red one.

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If you want to just attack me as a naive narcissist, that's your right to do so, but I prefer to engage with posters that try to engage with arguments rather than insults.

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I'm not attacking you. I'm pointing out that your reasoning makes absolutely no sense in the current political climate. None. The parties are so far apart that any idea that they're going to "work together" is completely naive and frankly, absurd.

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Gigem314 said:

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Lake wasn't a bad candidate.

But Oz and Walker weren't "local" guys. Just a distant history there.

Republicans also need to learn to play the game.

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uh, Lake was an extremely bad candidate

she was going up against one of the stupidest and cowardly dems in the entire country!

and she couldn't beat her!

maybe because Lake had only been a TV anchor and her entire campaign was Trump and Stop the Steal and not having an actual good politician such as...

oh I don't know-- maybe the wildly popular Republican Governor Doug Ducey who was driven out of politics by Trump?!?!

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I personally think she was an AMAZING candidate. I hope to God she has a future in politics in this country. She is exactly what the Republican party needs more of. Hitching with Trump may have been a mistake, but it doesn't make her a bad candidate...especially compared to that steaming bucket of sh** candidate known as Katie Hobbs. She is leaps and bounds better than Hobbs could ever be and better than the vast majority of Republicans as well.

Her losing is indicative of one of the following (or a combo): (a) a dumbass mouth breathing electorate; (b) cheating.

That election stinks, I am sorry. At the very least, the optics are insanely bad and it was just honest mistakes and mishaps.

But we need MORE Kari Lakes and Desantis's. Not more McCain types.

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There is a huge difference between Lake and DeSantis. DeSantis is an impressive leader with a great background leading to governor.

Lake is hostile towards the media and that is why some of you like her. But she has absolutely no experience at anything relevant towards leadership. If she wants to start out smaller, like Arizona State Senator or a US House rep, she should have at it.

But I have seen nothing in her background that remotely qualifies her for US Senator, Governor and VP yet. She was reading the news 18 months ago.

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You don't have the first clue why I like her and stop pretending you are "enlightened" and can speak for others on here. Her ideology and desires align almost perfectly with mine and I can pretty much only say that about a few others...Desantis, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz...maybe one or two more.

She is very intelligent, conservative, and super polished and not a RINO. Making her WAY more qualified than any left winged idiot in my mind. The way she calls out the media and her opposition is just the cherry on top.

I think it's funny that ivory tower Mitt Romney republicans, which is what you come across as, lecture us on "quality candidates" when democrats are voting for racist old creepy dudes with dementia, braindead ogres like Fetterman, and even ACTUAL DEAD GUYS. Kari Lake wasn't a bad candidate, the electorate is just becoming increasingly stupid. Hobbs is awful, but congrats on your girl I guess.

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Lake is so far below DeSantis and Cruz in terms of qualifications, it is insane you put them in the same sentence. I really think you gravitate towards her because she is an attractive middle aged woman with a lot of anger towards liberals.

Who cares what Dems do? They have a control of the majority of the media. They can spin for their candidates. Republicans do not have that luxury. You can put your fingers in your ears and pretend that isn't reality or you can figure out how to win. Sorry mom didn't tell you that life isn't always fair.

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You're wrong again. Me and her check virtually every single political ideology box, which strongly indicates that she would support policy that I like, which is more important than anything to me....and it's not even close. Certainly infinitely moreso than Katie f-ing Hobbs.

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If you want to just attack me as a naive narcissist, that's your right to do so, but I prefer to engage with posters that try to engage with arguments rather than insults.

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I'm not attacking you. I'm pointing out that your reasoning makes absolutely no sense in the current political climate. None. The parties are so far apart that any idea that they're going to "work together" is completely naive and frankly, absurd.

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You simply insulted me and said that my ideas make no sense. Can I bother you to explain why?

The idea that both parties are going to hold hands and sing Kumbaya is not an idea that I actually hold. I want there to be healthy conflict. That said, infrastructure and chips got done, which were too bipartisan bills that needed to happen.

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What is more likely....an orchestrated cheating machine or just a bad candidate endorsed by a loser politician?

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The most likely...and BY FAR the most troubling in my mind...is that the electorate is what has gone bad. And that it will only get worse, especially as the boomers die off. Our childrens'/grandchildrens' futures are most likely going to monumentally suck.

The most troubling scenario is that with demographics in place, it's game over and republicans (regardless of quality of candidates or who endorsed who) are going to lose with greater and greater frequency. All of you CM's and democrats beating your chest and lecturing us conservatives better enjoy it now. The future is going to suck majorly...even for you...ESPECIALLY for you...but congrats, you won. Check out the bluest cities that your beloved dem brethren are mismanaging into the ground for a brief foreshadowing of our future.

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And you immediately start accursing me of being a "CM" and assuming so much about me as as ad hominem attack.

Take a look in the mirror amigo. That electorate is also you. I'd like to engage with ultimately what you are saying (because I do agree in many instances), but because you took this tact, eff off.

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You do NOT have a conservative track record on here. You truly do come across as a CM. Not an attack.

Prove me wrong...Yes or no...Do you strongly support both Ted Cruz and Ron Desantis? If yes, I truly apologize, and might even have you confused with another user with similar handle. If no, you're a CM at best, plain and simple.

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I don't have to prove anything to you. You made a baseless accusation that lacks any knowledge or nuance because a comment I made directly affects your view of things. You are proving my point. You (and your types) are not also recognizing your own contribution to the "electorate" as you say.

If you are that interested in giving a litmus test (not unlike the other "electorate" that you claim is ruining the country), you will find ample evidence of who I would support for POTUS assuming they run.

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Do you think it was a big deal for Ted Cruz to go on vacation during a cold front? I know it's a silly question, but I challenge you to answer it honestly and succinctly.

I predict you will avoid this very simple question though. But you never know.

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Admiral Adama said:

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If you want to just attack me as a naive narcissist, that's your right to do so, but I prefer to engage with posters that try to engage with arguments rather than insults.

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I'll refrain from personal attacks, it's just that what you're advocating for makes little sense. It's a recipe for accomplishing nothing. Hard for me to wrap my brain around someone wanting to see DeSantis win the presidency but at the same time ensuring he wouldn't have the votes in Congress to pass his agenda.

Also, it's like saying you would prefer the guy that robbed you was articulate. I mean, it may make for a less painful experience but you still got robbed.

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Because he's running the largest bureaucracy in the world, which requires an immense amount of executive leadership for simple blocking and tackling reasons related to national security and just running the administrative state. I want someone who can actually hold that title and govern effectively in ways that make the nation better. Having weak leaders in a revolving door of incompetent cabinet members is a recipe for rot.

Just because I think Ron DeSantis would be someone effective at running a country doesn't mean that I want Ron DeSantis to get 100% of legislative wish list. I prefer that some of his worst impulses, like some of his free-speech bills that have been stricken down by the court, get checked by a competent opposition.

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BG Knocc Out said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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Gigem314 said:

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Lake wasn't a bad candidate.

But Oz and Walker weren't "local" guys. Just a distant history there.

Republicans also need to learn to play the game.

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uh, Lake was an extremely bad candidate

she was going up against one of the stupidest and cowardly dems in the entire country!

and she couldn't beat her!

maybe because Lake had only been a TV anchor and her entire campaign was Trump and Stop the Steal and not having an actual good politician such as...

oh I don't know-- maybe the wildly popular Republican Governor Doug Ducey who was driven out of politics by Trump?!?!

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I personally think she was an AMAZING candidate. I hope to God she has a future in politics in this country. She is exactly what the Republican party needs more of. Hitching with Trump may have been a mistake, but it doesn't make her a bad candidate...especially compared to that steaming bucket of sh** candidate known as Katie Hobbs. She is leaps and bounds better than Hobbs could ever be and better than the vast majority of Republicans as well.

Her losing is indicative of one of the following (or a combo): (a) a dumbass mouth breathing electorate; (b) cheating.

That election stinks, I am sorry. At the very least, the optics are insanely bad and it was just honest mistakes and mishaps.

But we need MORE Kari Lakes and Desantis's. Not more McCain types.

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There is a huge difference between Lake and DeSantis. DeSantis is an impressive leader with a great background leading to governor.

Lake is hostile towards the media and that is why some of you like her. But she has absolutely no experience at anything relevant towards leadership. If she wants to start out smaller, like Arizona State Senator or a US House rep, she should have at it.

But I have seen nothing in her background that remotely qualifies her for US Senator, Governor and VP yet. She was reading the news 18 months ago.

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You don't have the first clue why I like her and stop pretending you are "enlightened" and can speak for others on here. Her ideology and desires align almost perfectly with mine and I can pretty much only say that about a few others...Desantis, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz...maybe one or two more.

She is very intelligent, conservative, and super polished and not a RINO. Making her WAY more qualified than any left winged idiot in my mind. The way she calls out the media and her opposition is just the cherry on top.

I think it's funny that ivory tower Mitt Romney republicans, which is what you come across as, lecture us on "quality candidates" when democrats are voting for racist old creepy dudes with dementia, braindead ogres like Fetterman, and even ACTUAL DEAD GUYS. Kari Lake wasn't a bad candidate, the electorate is just becoming increasingly stupid. Hobbs is awful, but congrats on your girl I guess.

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Lake is so far below DeSantis and Cruz in terms of qualifications, it is insane you put them in the same sentence. I really think you gravitate towards her because she is an attractive middle aged woman with a lot of anger towards liberals.

Who cares what Dems do? They have a control of the majority of the media. They can spin for their candidates. Republicans do not have that luxury. You can put your fingers in your ears and pretend that isn't reality or you can figure out how to win. Sorry mom didn't tell you that life isn't always fair.

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You're wrong again. Me and her check virtually every single political ideology box, which strongly indicates that she would support policy that I like, which is more important than anything to me....and it's not even close. Certainly infinitely moreso than Katie f-ing Hobbs.

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You campaigned for John Kerry and Obama?

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If you want to just attack me as a naive narcissist, that's your right to do so, but I prefer to engage with posters that try to engage with arguments rather than insults.

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What issues are most important to you and what would you like to see in regards to those issues?

It's more of a vision for America than a specific issue. America should be safe, and people should have to work for their prosperity. If hard times come, there is a hand up, but not a hand out. We don't need to do any more tinkering around the first amendment. We got it right the first time.

The issues of the day that requires the most attention are border security, energy independence, and an industrial policy that isn't reliant on geopolitical rivals or their vassals for trade.

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Did someone say "cheating"?

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Yeah I here it every time someone backed by trump looses.

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BG Knocc Out said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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Gigem314 said:

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Lake wasn't a bad candidate.

But Oz and Walker weren't "local" guys. Just a distant history there.

Republicans also need to learn to play the game.

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uh, Lake was an extremely bad candidate

she was going up against one of the stupidest and cowardly dems in the entire country!

and she couldn't beat her!

maybe because Lake had only been a TV anchor and her entire campaign was Trump and Stop the Steal and not having an actual good politician such as...

oh I don't know-- maybe the wildly popular Republican Governor Doug Ducey who was driven out of politics by Trump?!?!

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I personally think she was an AMAZING candidate. I hope to God she has a future in politics in this country. She is exactly what the Republican party needs more of. Hitching with Trump may have been a mistake, but it doesn't make her a bad candidate...especially compared to that steaming bucket of sh** candidate known as Katie Hobbs. She is leaps and bounds better than Hobbs could ever be and better than the vast majority of Republicans as well.

Her losing is indicative of one of the following (or a combo): (a) a dumbass mouth breathing electorate; (b) cheating.

That election stinks, I am sorry. At the very least, the optics are insanely bad and it was just honest mistakes and mishaps.

But we need MORE Kari Lakes and Desantis's. Not more McCain types.

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There is a huge difference between Lake and DeSantis. DeSantis is an impressive leader with a great background leading to governor.

Lake is hostile towards the media and that is why some of you like her. But she has absolutely no experience at anything relevant towards leadership. If she wants to start out smaller, like Arizona State Senator or a US House rep, she should have at it.

But I have seen nothing in her background that remotely qualifies her for US Senator, Governor and VP yet. She was reading the news 18 months ago.

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You don't have the first clue why I like her and stop pretending you are "enlightened" and can speak for others on here. Her ideology and desires align almost perfectly with mine and I can pretty much only say that about a few others...Desantis, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz...maybe one or two more.

She is very intelligent, conservative, and super polished and not a RINO. Making her WAY more qualified than any left winged idiot in my mind. The way she calls out the media and her opposition is just the cherry on top.

I think it's funny that ivory tower Mitt Romney republicans, which is what you come across as, lecture us on "quality candidates" when democrats are voting for racist old creepy dudes with dementia, braindead ogres like Fetterman, and even ACTUAL DEAD GUYS. Kari Lake wasn't a bad candidate, the electorate is just becoming increasingly stupid. Hobbs is awful, but congrats on your girl I guess.

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Lake is so far below DeSantis and Cruz in terms of qualifications, it is insane you put them in the same sentence. I really think you gravitate towards her because she is an attractive middle aged woman with a lot of anger towards liberals.

Who cares what Dems do? They have a control of the majority of the media. They can spin for their candidates. Republicans do not have that luxury. You can put your fingers in your ears and pretend that isn't reality or you can figure out how to win. Sorry mom didn't tell you that life isn't always fair.

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You're wrong again. Me and her check virtually every single political ideology box, which strongly indicates that she would support policy that I like, which is more important than anything to me....and it's not even close. Certainly infinitely moreso than Katie f-ing Hobbs.

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You campaigned for John Kerry and Obama?

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My wife (gf at the time) voted for Obama in 2008 and now despises liberals. People can change and often do. I happen to believe Kari Lake when she says that working for the media and seeing how things were up close, behind the curtain, woke her up and compelled her to fight it. But even if she's a fraud, she would likely support the policy that I support to a much greater degree than any democrat alive today.

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It's more of a vision for America than a specific issue. America should be safe, and people should have to work for their prosperity. If hard times come, there is a hand up, but not a hand out. We don't need to do any more tinkering around the first amendment. We got it right the first time.

The issues of the day that requires the most attention are border security, energy independence, and an industrial policy that isn't reliant on geopolitical rivals or their vassals for trade.

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I support this, and I am a hard right uber extreme domestic terrorist, according to our president and much of the modern left.

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Tex117 said:

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What is more likely....an orchestrated cheating machine or just a bad candidate endorsed by a loser politician?

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The most likely...and BY FAR the most troubling in my mind...is that the electorate is what has gone bad. And that it will only get worse, especially as the boomers die off. Our childrens'/grandchildrens' futures are most likely going to monumentally suck.

The most troubling scenario is that with demographics in place, it's game over and republicans (regardless of quality of candidates or who endorsed who) are going to lose with greater and greater frequency. All of you CM's and democrats beating your chest and lecturing us conservatives better enjoy it now. The future is going to suck majorly...even for you...ESPECIALLY for you...but congrats, you won. Check out the bluest cities that your beloved dem brethren are mismanaging into the ground for a brief foreshadowing of our future.

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And you immediately start accursing me of being a "CM" and assuming so much about me as as ad hominem attack.

Take a look in the mirror amigo. That electorate is also you. I'd like to engage with ultimately what you are saying (because I do agree in many instances), but because you took this tact, eff off.

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You do NOT have a conservative track record on here. You truly do come across as a CM. Not an attack.

Prove me wrong...Yes or no...Do you strongly support both Ted Cruz and Ron Desantis? If yes, I truly apologize, and might even have you confused with another user with similar handle. If no, you're a CM at best, plain and simple.

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I don't have to prove anything to you. You made a baseless accusation that lacks any knowledge or nuance because a comment I made directly affects your view of things. You are proving my point. You (and your types) are not also recognizing your own contribution to the "electorate" as you say.

If you are that interested in giving a litmus test (not unlike the other "electorate" that you claim is ruining the country), you will find ample evidence of who I would support for POTUS assuming they run.

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Do you think it was a big deal for Ted Cruz to go on vacation during a cold front? I know it's a silly question, but I challenge you to answer it honestly and succinctly.

I predict you will avoid this very simple question though. But you never know.

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You are really off in assuming anything about me. Moreover, your question again is some sort of litmus test where you think you can somehow extrapolate my political ideology. But, even inspite of that, I will answer because at least you are somewhat trying to figure this out rather than just assuming whatever it is you want to assume and moving on.

No, I didn't think it was a big deal. (But to call that a cold front is silly and you know it. What's funny is that you are are showing way more about you and how you think rather than me).

I sure hope GOP leadership doesn't have this defeatist attitude some here have.

"The electorate is too dumb and just can't see why I am right"

"Dems cheating"

Good luck winning elections thinking like that.

Agree.

I think the defeatist attitude is because right now the Democrats are winning the "game" (strategy).

Republicans need to figure out how to get out more vote early and follow the same rules the D's are....can't be the party of "show up in line on day of election" anymore...

Walker didn't lose because of cheating. He lost because he sucks as a candidate. Yes, Warnock sucked too but Walker sucked more.

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Trump's endorsement is not what made the difference in Arizona and Georgia. These states would have "found" enough votes to certify the democrat nominee no matter who endorsed them. In the end all will be revealed.

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And in the end
the love you make
is equal to the love
you make



Keep up dreaming. Just because YOU want it to happen doesn't mean it will.

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The love you take
Is equal to the love
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Unless I missed the joke.

Trump Brags He's First President Ever To Lose The Senate Even After Being President https://t.co/CntPwcn9Xg

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) December 7, 2022

Ah well, it's that time of the political season when we can just sit back and laugh, finally. Senate's done. House is done. Poopy Pants ate some pudding and is done for the day for sure, after 2pm EST.

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Nope, the Dems just found the winning formula - it's called "cheating". Republicans have a chance if we go all in on ballot harvesting, and holding rural county vote totals until after large municipal county vote totals are released. Need overwhelming mail in ballot dump campaigns wherever possible. Stop the infighting, embrace the "formula", and outspend/out organize the Democrats at this game.

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This. It did not matter who the senate candidates were in AZ, NV, PA, and GA, version 2.0 of the cheating algorithm was finely tuned and effectively executed. Huge mail-in ballot totals and delays in counting them and votes from heavily dem strongholds, guaranteed the manufacturing of "late-rally" wins. If you don't understand this by now, you are uninformed, naive, or ignorant. 2024 will be the next replay with the same outcomes. JMO

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OG UNF said:

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Nope, the Dems just found the winning formula - it's called "cheating". Republicans have a chance if we go all in on ballot harvesting, and holding rural county vote totals until after large municipal county vote totals are released. Need overwhelming mail in ballot dump campaigns wherever possible. Stop the infighting, embrace the "formula", and outspend/out organize the Democrats at this game.

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This. It did not matter who the senate candidates were in AZ, NV, PA, and GA, version 2.0 of the cheating algorithm was finely tuned and effectively executed. Huge mail-in ballot totals and delays in counting them and votes from heavily dem strongholds, guaranteed the manufacturing of "late-rally" wins. If you don't understand this by now, you are uninformed, naive, or ignorant. 2024 will be the next replay with the same outcomes. JMO

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Why'd they forget to cheat in the NV and GA governor races?

I'm not a democrat (or a republican) because i think both sides have whacko positions but how the kentucky fried **** do you lose to a guy who can't legally operate a motor vehicle with Fetterman? It blows my mind that across all of PA there wasn't a normal guy and they chose dr ****ing oz (which would be ironic, that the first muslim senator would be GOP)

I understand walker losing - he was a **** candidate and the other guy was a black preacher from atlanta who preached at MLKs church at one point, and the ballot harvesting cancelled out any hope of a GOP win. Do they not have extensive background checks on who they run? It was like a new, more stupid story came out about him every day.

At least there is a mixed congress now so the biden regime can be corraled somewhat.

BG Knocc Out said:

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Admiral Adama said:

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It's more of a vision for America than a specific issue. America should be safe, and people should have to work for their prosperity. If hard times come, there is a hand up, but not a hand out. We don't need to do any more tinkering around the first amendment. We got it right the first time.

The issues of the day that requires the most attention are border security, energy independence, and an industrial policy that isn't reliant on geopolitical rivals or their vassals for trade.

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I support this, and I am a hard right uber extreme domestic terrorist, according to our president and much of the modern left.

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The question is: how does someone like Admiral A look at the modern Democrat party (which almost always pushes agendas in lockstep) and sees them aligning with ANY of his vision for America?

The outputs of the modern Democrat party are almost all detrimental to the middle class (the voter block who most opposes them). Their political power is inversely proportional to the reachability of the American Dream, and it shows.

This isn't about competence in governance. It's about the vision that is being pursued.

Given an election between an arsonist and a literal vegetable: it's still foolish to vote for the arsonist no matter how competent they may be. In fact: the more competent they are the worse they'll be.

AggieUSMC said:

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Walker didn't lose because of cheating. He lost because he sucks as a candidate. Yes, Warnock sucked too but Walker sucked more.

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OR

it could be that while idiot leftists will vote en masse for sucky candidates, the general public won't elect sucky GOP candidates.

and now here come the Trumpists:

"but our GOP candidates should be able to suck just as bad as the leftists!!"