This 100%.RWWilson said:
The women's lib slope was the worst. From "liberation" it went to "equality". From "equality" it went to "men and women are the same", and from there it went to "men and women are interchangeable", to "women don't need men", to "children don't need fathers", to "two men are the same as a man and a woman", to "a woman can become a man and a man a woman", to "men should be allowed into the girls locker room", to "men should be allowed to participate in women's sports" to "if you disagree that a man can become a woman, you are a bigot and should lose your job".
Several conservative posters in a now deleted thread last night had significant issues with drug coverage for people with a chronic condition, previously terminal without drugs. What's the difference between that POV and the slippery slope you're posting about liberals. Feels like a double standard…maybe some of you all are on slippery slope.Squadron7 said:
I'm going to have to go with the assisted suicide slope. It is easy to be for it for the most hopeless and agonizing cases.
But the very hallmark of government is always, always taking more and giving less.
Witness Canada.
Voluntary now. But for how long?
Nut jobs? Nice. I think you're one too if your post and name calling is allowed.Tom Doniphon said:
LGBTQXYZ... they allow the group think from that pool of nut jobs to determine their actions on all the other social and environmental issues.
TXAGFAN said:Several conservative posters in a now deleted thread last night had significant issues with drug coverage for people with a chronic condition, previously terminal without drugs. What's the difference between that POV and the slippery slope you're posting about liberals. Feels like a double standard…maybe some of you all are on slippery slope.Squadron7 said:
I'm going to have to go with the assisted suicide slope. It is easy to be for it for the most hopeless and agonizing cases.
But the very hallmark of government is always, always taking more and giving less.
Witness Canada.
Voluntary now. But for how long?
I don't disagree with your assessment fwiw, but those posters are here and step out of bounds to that end periodically. Thread didn't go away because of the discussion OP started with. Back to this thread, just felt necessary to point out some hypocrisy that some are perfectly fine with these sorts of consequences if they can put it in THEIR moral framework.The Banned said:TXAGFAN said:Several conservative posters in a now deleted thread last night had significant issues with drug coverage for people with a chronic condition, previously terminal without drugs. What's the difference between that POV and the slippery slope you're posting about liberals. Feels like a double standard…maybe some of you all are on slippery slope.Squadron7 said:
I'm going to have to go with the assisted suicide slope. It is easy to be for it for the most hopeless and agonizing cases.
But the very hallmark of government is always, always taking more and giving less.
Witness Canada.
Voluntary now. But for how long?
Didn't read the whole thread but all I saw was complaints about the incessant advertising on tv, particularly during football games. I could easily see one or two people going out of bounds and saying people deserve the hiv they got, but I didn't personally witness it and was certainly not the intent of the thread.
TXAGFAN said:Nut jobs? Nice. I think you're one too if your post and name calling is allowed.Tom Doniphon said:
LGBTQXYZ... they allow the group think from that pool of nut jobs to determine their actions on all the other social and environmental issues.
My slippery slope? Proliferation of a small loud minority of social conservatives and evangelicals in the GOP who have significant influence on policy.
Not opposed to opposing views and don't see me posting about restrictions of speech, I just think it's nutty a shrinking group has such a choke hold on Republican policy/platforms ultimately hurting their ability to win elections.Squadron7 said:TXAGFAN said:Nut jobs? Nice. I think you're one too if your post and name calling is allowed.Tom Doniphon said:
LGBTQXYZ... they allow the group think from that pool of nut jobs to determine their actions on all the other social and environmental issues.
My slippery slope? Proliferation of a small loud minority of social conservatives and evangelicals in the GOP who have significant influence on policy.
That isn't a slippery slope. Maybe these people that frighten you so are proposing something you view as a slippery slope but they are not a slippery slope unto itself.
Unless you think that simply allowing opposing views is a slipp.....oh, I get it.
Never mind.
TXAGFAN said:Not opposed to opposing views and don't see me posting about restrictions of speech, I just think it's nutty a shrinking group has such a choke hold on Republican policy/platforms ultimately hurting their ability to win elections.Squadron7 said:TXAGFAN said:Nut jobs? Nice. I think you're one too if your post and name calling is allowed.Tom Doniphon said:
LGBTQXYZ... they allow the group think from that pool of nut jobs to determine their actions on all the other social and environmental issues.
My slippery slope? Proliferation of a small loud minority of social conservatives and evangelicals in the GOP who have significant influence on policy.
That isn't a slippery slope. Maybe these people that frighten you so are proposing something you view as a slippery slope but they are not a slippery slope unto itself.
Unless you think that simply allowing opposing views is a slipp.....oh, I get it.
Never mind.
I did, you don't think it's one presumably because they represent your interests. That's how this works, we don't all have to agree what a slippery slope is. You don't think their influence can lead to negative ends, I definitely do.Squadron7 said:TXAGFAN said:Not opposed to opposing views and don't see me posting about restrictions of speech, I just think it's nutty a shrinking group has such a choke hold on Republican policy/platforms ultimately hurting their ability to win elections.Squadron7 said:TXAGFAN said:Nut jobs? Nice. I think you're one too if your post and name calling is allowed.Tom Doniphon said:
LGBTQXYZ... they allow the group think from that pool of nut jobs to determine their actions on all the other social and environmental issues.
My slippery slope? Proliferation of a small loud minority of social conservatives and evangelicals in the GOP who have significant influence on policy.
That isn't a slippery slope. Maybe these people that frighten you so are proposing something you view as a slippery slope but they are not a slippery slope unto itself.
Unless you think that simply allowing opposing views is a slipp.....oh, I get it.
Never mind.
So then name an actual slippery slope. Let's stay on topic.
TXAGFAN said:I did, you don't think it's one presumably because they represent your interests. That's how this works, we don't all have to agree what a slippery slope is. You don't think their influence can lead to negative ends, I definitely do.Squadron7 said:TXAGFAN said:Not opposed to opposing views and don't see me posting about restrictions of speech, I just think it's nutty a shrinking group has such a choke hold on Republican policy/platforms ultimately hurting their ability to win elections.Squadron7 said:TXAGFAN said:Nut jobs? Nice. I think you're one too if your post and name calling is allowed.Tom Doniphon said:
LGBTQXYZ... they allow the group think from that pool of nut jobs to determine their actions on all the other social and environmental issues.
My slippery slope? Proliferation of a small loud minority of social conservatives and evangelicals in the GOP who have significant influence on policy.
That isn't a slippery slope. Maybe these people that frighten you so are proposing something you view as a slippery slope but they are not a slippery slope unto itself.
Unless you think that simply allowing opposing views is a slipp.....oh, I get it.
Never mind.
So then name an actual slippery slope. Let's stay on topic.
TXAGFAN said:I don't disagree with your assessment fwiw, but those posters are here and step out of bounds to that end periodically. Thread didn't go away because of the discussion OP started with. Back to this thread, just felt necessary to point out some hypocrisy that some are perfectly fine with these sorts of consequences if they can put it in THEIR moral framework.The Banned said:TXAGFAN said:Several conservative posters in a now deleted thread last night had significant issues with drug coverage for people with a chronic condition, previously terminal without drugs. What's the difference between that POV and the slippery slope you're posting about liberals. Feels like a double standard…maybe some of you all are on slippery slope.Squadron7 said:
I'm going to have to go with the assisted suicide slope. It is easy to be for it for the most hopeless and agonizing cases.
But the very hallmark of government is always, always taking more and giving less.
Witness Canada.
Voluntary now. But for how long?
Didn't read the whole thread but all I saw was complaints about the incessant advertising on tv, particularly during football games. I could easily see one or two people going out of bounds and saying people deserve the hiv they got, but I didn't personally witness it and was certainly not the intent of the thread.
Yes... but in real life some rivers actually lead to dangerous waterfalls.The Banned said:TXAGFAN said:I don't disagree with your assessment fwiw, but those posters are here and step out of bounds to that end periodically. Thread didn't go away because of the discussion OP started with. Back to this thread, just felt necessary to point out some hypocrisy that some are perfectly fine with these sorts of consequences if they can put it in THEIR moral framework.The Banned said:TXAGFAN said:Several conservative posters in a now deleted thread last night had significant issues with drug coverage for people with a chronic condition, previously terminal without drugs. What's the difference between that POV and the slippery slope you're posting about liberals. Feels like a double standard…maybe some of you all are on slippery slope.Squadron7 said:
I'm going to have to go with the assisted suicide slope. It is easy to be for it for the most hopeless and agonizing cases.
But the very hallmark of government is always, always taking more and giving less.
Witness Canada.
Voluntary now. But for how long?
Didn't read the whole thread but all I saw was complaints about the incessant advertising on tv, particularly during football games. I could easily see one or two people going out of bounds and saying people deserve the hiv they got, but I didn't personally witness it and was certainly not the intent of the thread.
Everyone is arguing for their own moral framework. Is high time we stopped pretending we're not all talking about morality when we're talking about legislation. Even legislating there be no morality is taking a moral stance by definition.
What has the left been screaming about since Roe was overturned? "Contraception and gay marriage are next!!!" We all do it.
aggiebq03+ said:
The ones that chip away at "Shall not be infringed".
Yep.Quote:
The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.
~ Judge Alex Kozinski, in his dissent to the Ninth Circuit's denial of review in Silveira v. Lockyer
RWWilson said:
"Gays just want to be left alone to do as they please in the privacy of their bedrooms".
Of course it went from that to "we want to change thousand of years of worldwide wisdom with regard to the purpose of marriage and pretend it's not procreative in nature".
From there it became "if you do not actively support homosexuality and 'gay marriage' then you are the problem. We care what you think in your own home".
Then it was "bake me a cake, bigot!".
To "you must call this woman 'he' or you risk losing your livelihood".
Now we are at "this boy will be dressing in your daughters' locker room" and "drag queen story time for kids" and elementary grooming of children.
RWWilson said:
The women's lib slope was the worst. From "liberation" it went to "equality". From "equality" it went to "men and women are the same", and from there it went to "men and women are interchangeable", to "women don't need men", to "children don't need fathers", to "two men are the same as a man and a woman", to "a woman can become a man and a man a woman", to "men should be allowed into the girls locker room", to "men should be allowed to participate in women's sports" to "if you disagree that a man can become a woman, you are a bigot and should lose your job".
A Net Full of Jello said:RWWilson said:
The women's lib slope was the worst. From "liberation" it went to "equality". From "equality" it went to "men and women are the same", and from there it went to "men and women are interchangeable", to "women don't need men", to "children don't need fathers", to "two men are the same as a man and a woman", to "a woman can become a man and a man a woman", to "men should be allowed into the girls locker room", to "men should be allowed to participate in women's sports" to "if you disagree that a man can become a woman, you are a bigot and should lose your job".
Let's not forget the fact that this leads to "if adults can change their gender, so can children" and eventually "children know what they want so pedophilia should be celebrated!"
Quote:
Timicin is crushed, and after some questioning by Lwaxana, he reveals that there are other things troubling him. Timicin tells Lwaxana that he is about to turn 60, and on Kaelon II, everyone who reaches that age performs the "Resolution", a ritual act of voluntary euthanasia. Lwaxana is outraged to learn of this and brings it to the attention of Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart).
Star Trek: TNG eposode "Half A Life" via Wikipedia
Pretty far, like never gonna happen far.Squadron7 said:A Net Full of Jello said:RWWilson said:
The women's lib slope was the worst. From "liberation" it went to "equality". From "equality" it went to "men and women are the same", and from there it went to "men and women are interchangeable", to "women don't need men", to "children don't need fathers", to "two men are the same as a man and a woman", to "a woman can become a man and a man a woman", to "men should be allowed into the girls locker room", to "men should be allowed to participate in women's sports" to "if you disagree that a man can become a woman, you are a bigot and should lose your job".
Let's not forget the fact that this leads to "if adults can change their gender, so can children" and eventually "children know what they want so pedophilia should be celebrated!"
And do so with the school's assistance and without the parent's consent or even knowledge.
How far are we, really, from "Let us bang your kids, bigots!"?
TXAGFAN said:Pretty far, like never gonna happen far.Squadron7 said:A Net Full of Jello said:RWWilson said:
The women's lib slope was the worst. From "liberation" it went to "equality". From "equality" it went to "men and women are the same", and from there it went to "men and women are interchangeable", to "women don't need men", to "children don't need fathers", to "two men are the same as a man and a woman", to "a woman can become a man and a man a woman", to "men should be allowed into the girls locker room", to "men should be allowed to participate in women's sports" to "if you disagree that a man can become a woman, you are a bigot and should lose your job".
Let's not forget the fact that this leads to "if adults can change their gender, so can children" and eventually "children know what they want so pedophilia should be celebrated!"
And do so with the school's assistance and without the parent's consent or even knowledge.
How far are we, really, from "Let us bang your kids, bigots!"?
They Want Your Children.
— Ethan Harsell (@ethan_harsell) December 5, 2022
Levine tells pediatricians that they need to become activists for transgender care for minors.
At this point they are openly advocating for your child to get groomed… pic.twitter.com/6E9A8QKvly
If someone or some group was advocating for allowing minors to undergo sex reassignment surgeries or treatments a mere five years ago they would have either been laughed out of the room or banned from polite society.TXAGFAN said:Pretty far, like never gonna happen far.Squadron7 said:A Net Full of Jello said:RWWilson said:
The women's lib slope was the worst. From "liberation" it went to "equality". From "equality" it went to "men and women are the same", and from there it went to "men and women are interchangeable", to "women don't need men", to "children don't need fathers", to "two men are the same as a man and a woman", to "a woman can become a man and a man a woman", to "men should be allowed into the girls locker room", to "men should be allowed to participate in women's sports" to "if you disagree that a man can become a woman, you are a bigot and should lose your job".
Let's not forget the fact that this leads to "if adults can change their gender, so can children" and eventually "children know what they want so pedophilia should be celebrated!"
And do so with the school's assistance and without the parent's consent or even knowledge.
How far are we, really, from "Let us bang your kids, bigots!"?
GAC06 said:
Which fallacy is the biggest fallacy? Excellent thread
I imagine many had similar words for all of the stuff we've seen become law of the land or accepted by society in recent years.TXAGFAN said:Pretty far, like never gonna happen far.Squadron7 said:A Net Full of Jello said:RWWilson said:
The women's lib slope was the worst. From "liberation" it went to "equality". From "equality" it went to "men and women are the same", and from there it went to "men and women are interchangeable", to "women don't need men", to "children don't need fathers", to "two men are the same as a man and a woman", to "a woman can become a man and a man a woman", to "men should be allowed into the girls locker room", to "men should be allowed to participate in women's sports" to "if you disagree that a man can become a woman, you are a bigot and should lose your job".
Let's not forget the fact that this leads to "if adults can change their gender, so can children" and eventually "children know what they want so pedophilia should be celebrated!"
And do so with the school's assistance and without the parent's consent or even knowledge.
How far are we, really, from "Let us bang your kids, bigots!"?
