Twitter/Hunter Biden story will be released at 5p ET. -Elon

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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:



I wonder how defrauding their then-shareholders, the government, and the public will go over
Twitter created ridiculous value for their shareholders, the company sold for AT LEAST double what it was worth.
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James Woods is going to sue the DNC.
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This is lik everything else they will have hearings of which nothing will come of it the feckless GOP wont do **** .

This will be forgotten in a month
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Manhattan said:

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:



I wonder how defrauding their then-shareholders, the government, and the public will go over
Twitter created ridiculous value for their shareholders, the company sold for AT LEAST double what it was worth.
and yet they still lied.
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JB!98 said:



James Woods is going to sue the DNC.
Can't sue in CA. Their Anti-Slap law will get it dismissed off the bat.
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Can't he sue in his home state? I don't believe he owns any more property in CA...
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Twitter wasn't private Holmes. And no companies cannot do whatever they want.
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sam callahan said:

That's the way this crap goes.

We all know what happened and they say "where is your proof?"

Then there is proof and they say "pretty thin"

Then there is more proof and they say "that's just stuff we already knew. This is old news"


"old news" means this evidence has been out there for a while and there's been no arrests. That's a problem.
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sam callahan
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If the libs had the honesty and reasoning capabilities to analyze this, they wouldn't be libs.
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BOOM, Headshot!
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Manhattan said:

C@LAg said:

Manhattan said:



How can Ds be accused of anything, they held no power in 2020?
they controlled the House, for the most part they run the federal administration
That's not how the federal government works.

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, they had control of the media and social media, and they controlled (and continue to control) a large part of the judiciary.

"no power" my ass.

Private companies can do whatever they want.


Including giving $billions in in-kind donations to the DNC? Don't ignore this. Answer it.
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Now do Jan 6th, Elon
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Except fire flamers. Can't pay less than minimum wage. Can't refuse fmla. But you are right private companies can do what they want DE.

It's funny to see a big government liberal who loves forced paid family leave to support private business rights.
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Truvada said:

This is lik everything else they will have hearings of which nothing will come of it the feckless GOP wont do **** .

This will be forgotten in a month

Yay Pravda?
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This has the potential to make Watergate look like a panty raid at a 1980s summer camp.
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Trump's not happy about this.



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Stinky T said:

This has the potential to make Watergate look like a panty raid at a 1980s summer camp.
Nah, you need to rethink this, Watergate was used to remove a Republican POTUS. See where I'm going with this?
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Manhattan said:

C@LAg said:

Manhattan said:



How can Ds be accused of anything, they held no power in 2020?
they controlled the House, for the most part they run the federal administration
That's not how the federal government works.

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, they had control of the media and social media, and they controlled (and continue to control) a large part of the judiciary.

"no power" my ass.

Private companies can do whatever they want.

Now would be a good time to show the 50 dispassionate and unbiased civil servants from our professional intelligence agencies assuring us, in perfect unison and harmony as though singing from a single sheet of music, how the story of Hunter's Laptop story was just likely Russian disinformation and that we should all just move along. Nothing to see here, after all. Private companies, my ass.

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Quick with the "twitter is dying, "hate speech" is rising, Twitter 2.0/Elon is "a threat to democracy", space man bad" articles. Anything on twitter files? Predictably…


agcrock2005
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CNN and the others will start to cover the story now though...sad.
EskimoJoe
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Manhattan said:

C@LAg said:

Manhattan said:



How can Ds be accused of anything, they held no power in 2020?
they controlled the House, for the most part they run the federal administration
That's not how the federal government works.

Quote:

, they had control of the media and social media, and they controlled (and continue to control) a large part of the judiciary.

"no power" my ass.

Private companies can do whatever they want.


Can private companies choose who they will and won't bake a wedding cake for?
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sam callahan said:

If the libs had the honesty and reasoning capabilities to analyze this, they wouldn't be libs.
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The corruption in this country sponsored and endorsed by the left is irredeemable.

Time to set up gallows.
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. . . said:

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1. Thread: THE TWITTER FILES

2. What you're about to read is the first installment in a series, based upon thousands of internal documents obtained by sources at Twitter.

3. The "Twitter Files" tell an incredible story from inside one of the world's largest and most influential social media platforms. It is a Frankensteinian tale of a human-built mechanism grown out the control of its designer.

4. Twitter in its conception was a brilliant tool for enabling instant mass communication, making a true real-time global conversation possible for the first time.

5. In an early conception, Twitter more than lived up to its mission statement, giving people "the power to create and share ideas and information instantly, without barriers."

6. As time progressed, however, the company was slowly forced to add those barriers. Some of the first tools for controlling speech were designed to combat the likes of spam and financial fraudsters.

7. Slowly, over time, Twitter staff and executives began to find more and more uses for these tools. Outsiders began petitioning the company to manipulate speech as well: first a little, then more often, then constantly.

8. By 2020, requests from connected actors to delete tweets were routine. One executive would write to another: "More to review from the Biden team." The reply would come back: "Handled."


9. Celebrities and unknowns alike could be removed or reviewed at the behest of a political party:


10.Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored. However:

11. This system wasn't balanced. It was based on contacts. Because Twitter was and is overwhelmingly staffed by people of one political orientation, there were more channels, more ways to complain, open to the left (well, Democrats) than the right. https://t.co/sa1uVRNhuH


12. The resulting slant in content moderation decisions is visible in the documents you're about to read. However, it's also the assessment of multiple current and former high-level executives.

Okay, there was more throat-clearing about the process, but screw it, let's jump forward

16. The Twitter Files, Part One: How and Why Twitter Blocked the Hunter Biden Laptop Story

17. On October 14, 2020, the New York Post published BIDEN SECRET EMAILS, an expose based on the contents of Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop:

18. Twitter took extraordinary steps to suppress the story, removing links and posting warnings that it may be "unsafe." They even blocked its transmission via direct message, a tool hitherto reserved for extreme cases, e.g. child pornography.

19. White House spokeswoman Kaleigh McEnany was locked out of her account for tweeting about the story, prompting a furious letter from Trump campaign staffer Mike Hahn, who seethed: "At least pretend to care for the next 20 days."


20.This led public policy executive Caroline Strom to send out a polite WTF query. Several employees noted that there was tension between the comms/policy teams, who had little/less control over moderation, and the safety/trust teams:


21. Strom's note returned the answer that the laptop story had been removed for violation of the company's "hacked materials" policy: https://t.co/EdTa2xbXn1


22. Although several sources recalled hearing about a "general" warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there's no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story. In fact, that might have been the problem...

23. The decision was made at the highest levels of the company, but without the knowledge of CEO Jack Dorsey, with former head of legal, policy and trust Vijaya Gadde playing a key role.

24. "They just freelanced it," is how one former employee characterized the decision. "Hacking was the excuse, but within a few hours, pretty much everyone realized that wasn't going to hold. But no one had the guts to reverse it."

25.You can see the confusion in the following lengthy exchange, which ends up including Gadde and former Trust and safety chief Yoel Roth. Comms official Trenton Kennedy writes, "I'm struggling to understand the policy basis for marking this as unsafe":


26. By this point "everyone knew this was ****ed," said one former employee, but the response was essentially to err on the side of… continuing to err.


27. Former VP of Global Comms Brandon Borrman asks, "Can we truthfully claim that this is part of the policy?"


28. To which former Deputy General Counsel Jim Baker again seems to advise staying the non-course, because "caution is warranted":


29. A fundamental problem with tech companies and content moderation: many people in charge of speech know/care little about speech, and have to be told the basics by outsiders. To wit:

30. In one humorous exchange on day 1, Democratic congressman Ro Khanna reaches out to Gadde to gently suggest she hop on the phone to talk about the "backlash re speech." Khanna was the only Democratic official I could find in the files who expressed concern.


Gadde replies quickly, immediately diving into the weeds of Twitter policy, unaware Khanna is more worried about the Bill of Rights:


32.Khanna tries to reroute the conversation to the First Amendment, mention of which is generally hard to find in the files:


33.Within a day, head of Public Policy Lauren Culbertson receives a ghastly letter/report from Carl Szabo of the research firm NetChoice, which had already polled 12 members of congress 9 Rs and 3 Democrats, from "the House Judiciary Committee to Rep. Judy Chu's office."


34.NetChoice lets Twitter know a "blood bath" awaits in upcoming Hill hearings, with members saying it's a "tipping point," complaining tech has "grown so big that they can't even regulate themselves, so government may need to intervene."


35.Szabo reports to Twitter that some Hill figures are characterizing the laptop story as "tech's Access Hollywood moment":


36.Twitter files continued: "THE FIRST AMENDMENT ISN'T ABSOLUTE"
Szabo's letter contains chilling passages relaying Democratic lawmakers' attitudes. They want "more" moderation, and as for the Bill of Rights, it's "not absolute"



An amazing subplot of the Twitter/Hunter Biden laptop affair was how much was done without the knowledge of CEO Jack Dorsey, and how long it took for the situation to get "un****ed" (as one ex-employee put it) even after Dorsey jumped in.

While reviewing Gadde's emails, I saw a familiar name - my own. Dorsey sent her a copy of my Substack article blasting the incident


There are multiple instances in the files of Dorsey intervening to question suspensions and other moderation actions, for accounts across the political spectrum.

The problem with the "hacked materials" ruling, several sources said, was that this normally required an official/law enforcement finding of a hack. But such a finding never appears throughout what one executive describes as a "whirlwind" 24-hour, company-wide mess.


It's been a whirlwind 96 hours for me, too. There is much more to come, including answers to questions about issues like shadow-banning, boosting, follower counts, the fate of various individual accounts, and more. These issues are not limited to the political right.



Can we get this up in the OP?
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Wild ass prediction:

A file will be uncovered indicating a biden campaign staffer knows they win (fraud) before the election and is using future threats of executive action against Twitter to force compliance and remove whatever iota of guilt or conscience the moderator team might have had with the suppression and violations of users first amendment rights.
Manhattan
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Weird I see a lot of names of people who didn't work for the government.
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Tramp96 said:

Watch out, Elon. She's watching you...




Punchable Cabbage Patch face like Adam Schiff
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Manhattan said:

Weird I see a lot of names of people who didn't work for the government.
When it comes to weird...you're the Expert!
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wow. wtf. In, I guess, still....WTF?
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Manhattan said:

Weird I see a lot of names of people who didn't work for the government.
LOL Keep acting like tonight's drop is all that there is. I'm sure that will age well.
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About forty people served prison time for the Watergate scandal. And this mess makes Watergate look like a cake walk.
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Manhattan said:

Weird I see a lot of names of people who didn't work for the government.
Tune in tomorrow for round 2.

Perhaps you missed this

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He doesn't care.
captkirk
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FriscoKid said:

He doesn't care.
He's in denial or a pathological liar
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captkirk said:

FriscoKid said:

He doesn't care.
He's in denial or a pathological liar

Well he did claim that Texas had higher taxes than NYC, so maybe it's both.

It's just not worth the emotional energy to even have a conversation if the other person denies that three is a number after two and before four.
 
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