Twitter/Hunter Biden story will be released at 5p ET. -Elon

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Bondag said:

fka ftc said:

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I think people are reading a lot into this bc hopes are so high to find something to take the Bidens down. The left did the same thing with Trump and Russia. It's far too early to make any sense of the impact and any repercussions. But Elon sure is increasing Twitter activity. He's a great marketer
Holy cow, man. Don't sit there and tell me you wouldn't be blue-faced stroked out if documents revealed Trump had done this!!

I agree that it won't take Biden down, but it's a damning insight into high level collusion of the most inappropriate kind.
Remember when they impeached Trump over a phone call asking them to just look into something?

And here is the farthest reaching social media platform, particularly in regards to news and information, actively goaltending for a political candidate, at their request. A former vice president, who took an oath of office multiple times to uphold and defend the constitution.

I simply do not understand what treason is if this is not it.
Trump asking to look into Biden illegally withholding money until the investigation of the company his son was on board of had prosecutor fired. Which Biden admitted to on camera.
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Rockdoc said:

fka ftc said:

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fka ftc said:

I simply do not understand what treason is if this is not it.
A correct statement
Any person who had taken an oath of office, so all federal employees and members of both houses of congress, committed treason when requesting they censor free speech in order to overthrow the government.

My comment is how others, particularly dolts on the left who so brazenly claim muh insurrection!, do not see this.

Can you imagine if this was the Trump administration? Our lib friends on here would be going nuts.


Wrong. I have no lib friends.
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1872walker said:

The fascists aren't too happy right now.



Yeah, that dude can go frick himself.
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Ag87H2O said:

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Hunter's laptop wasn't hacked


More like the Globalist Escalations Team. Crazy to see evidence that what conservatives suspected was dead on.

A lot of people need to go to prison over this.


Whose gonna do that? The DOJ? The FBI?
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1872walker said:

The fascists aren't too happy right now.


Too bad no one's name was mentioned in the entire thread other than individuals in government and executives at Twitter or other companies. Not nobodies, actual policy makers at these institutions. It is not unacceptable to name those names, we already knew.

What a doofus.
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Yeah, so about the "hacked" narrative discussed earlier -- it didn't even meet their own policies...

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@Jack should have burned all of them when he had the chance before congress.
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AgBQ-00 said:

@Jack should have burned all of them when he had the chance before congress.
That would be sacrilege in his eyes.
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Here's my summary

The Civil war is coming, and it's coming sooner than you think,

F*** all these treasonous *******s
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Did Taibbi just cliffhanger everybody for another day? I love it.
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Tin foil hat time-

There's no doubt emails from 3 letter agencies about the laptop. The reason for the delay was that the three letter goons contacted musk/Taibbi and they had to scale back their thread.


Not tin foil hat:

there's no longer any doubt that the Biden admin is colluding with social media companies to shape the national message. I'm sure there are plenty more emails proving the white house and twotter colluding on who to ban, censor and so on

I'd even bet that their attempt to set up their speech council or whatever that was wad an attempt to "legitimize" their actions
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Biggest election interference in our history but let's be mad that the identities of the perps are out there.
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Let's hope Elon does covid next
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Rockdoc said:

fka ftc said:

Actual Talking Thermos said:

fka ftc said:

I simply do not understand what treason is if this is not it.
A correct statement
Any person who had taken an oath of office, so all federal employees and members of both houses of congress, committed treason when requesting they censor free speech in order to overthrow the government.

My comment is how others, particularly dolts on the left who so brazenly claim muh insurrection!, do not see this.

Can you imagine if this was the Trump administration? Our lib friends on here would be going nuts.
*** Stop derailing. This isn't a thread about Trump's record as president. Any further derails will result in a ban -- Staff ***
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Funky Winkerbean said:

AgBQ-00 said:

@Jack should have burned all of them when he had the chance before congress.
That would be sacrilege in his eyes.


Jack is a coward. He knew what was happening and chose to ignore it and then when it got too hot he bailed on the company he built.
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1. Thread: THE TWITTER FILES

2. What you're about to read is the first installment in a series, based upon thousands of internal documents obtained by sources at Twitter.

3. The "Twitter Files" tell an incredible story from inside one of the world's largest and most influential social media platforms. It is a Frankensteinian tale of a human-built mechanism grown out the control of its designer.

4. Twitter in its conception was a brilliant tool for enabling instant mass communication, making a true real-time global conversation possible for the first time.

5. In an early conception, Twitter more than lived up to its mission statement, giving people "the power to create and share ideas and information instantly, without barriers."

6. As time progressed, however, the company was slowly forced to add those barriers. Some of the first tools for controlling speech were designed to combat the likes of spam and financial fraudsters.

7. Slowly, over time, Twitter staff and executives began to find more and more uses for these tools. Outsiders began petitioning the company to manipulate speech as well: first a little, then more often, then constantly.

8. By 2020, requests from connected actors to delete tweets were routine. One executive would write to another: "More to review from the Biden team." The reply would come back: "Handled."


9. Celebrities and unknowns alike could be removed or reviewed at the behest of a political party:


10.Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored. However:

11. This system wasn't balanced. It was based on contacts. Because Twitter was and is overwhelmingly staffed by people of one political orientation, there were more channels, more ways to complain, open to the left (well, Democrats) than the right. https://t.co/sa1uVRNhuH


12. The resulting slant in content moderation decisions is visible in the documents you're about to read. However, it's also the assessment of multiple current and former high-level executives.

Okay, there was more throat-clearing about the process, but screw it, let's jump forward

16. The Twitter Files, Part One: How and Why Twitter Blocked the Hunter Biden Laptop Story

17. On October 14, 2020, the New York Post published BIDEN SECRET EMAILS, an expose based on the contents of Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop:

18. Twitter took extraordinary steps to suppress the story, removing links and posting warnings that it may be "unsafe." They even blocked its transmission via direct message, a tool hitherto reserved for extreme cases, e.g. child pornography.

19. White House spokeswoman Kaleigh McEnany was locked out of her account for tweeting about the story, prompting a furious letter from Trump campaign staffer Mike Hahn, who seethed: "At least pretend to care for the next 20 days."


20.This led public policy executive Caroline Strom to send out a polite WTF query. Several employees noted that there was tension between the comms/policy teams, who had little/less control over moderation, and the safety/trust teams:


21. Strom's note returned the answer that the laptop story had been removed for violation of the company's "hacked materials" policy: https://t.co/EdTa2xbXn1


22. Although several sources recalled hearing about a "general" warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there's no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story. In fact, that might have been the problem...

23. The decision was made at the highest levels of the company, but without the knowledge of CEO Jack Dorsey, with former head of legal, policy and trust Vijaya Gadde playing a key role.

24. "They just freelanced it," is how one former employee characterized the decision. "Hacking was the excuse, but within a few hours, pretty much everyone realized that wasn't going to hold. But no one had the guts to reverse it."

25.You can see the confusion in the following lengthy exchange, which ends up including Gadde and former Trust and safety chief Yoel Roth. Comms official Trenton Kennedy writes, "I'm struggling to understand the policy basis for marking this as unsafe":


26. By this point "everyone knew this was ****ed," said one former employee, but the response was essentially to err on the side of… continuing to err.


27. Former VP of Global Comms Brandon Borrman asks, "Can we truthfully claim that this is part of the policy?"


28. To which former Deputy General Counsel Jim Baker again seems to advise staying the non-course, because "caution is warranted":


29. A fundamental problem with tech companies and content moderation: many people in charge of speech know/care little about speech, and have to be told the basics by outsiders. To wit:

30. In one humorous exchange on day 1, Democratic congressman Ro Khanna reaches out to Gadde to gently suggest she hop on the phone to talk about the "backlash re speech." Khanna was the only Democratic official I could find in the files who expressed concern.


Gadde replies quickly, immediately diving into the weeds of Twitter policy, unaware Khanna is more worried about the Bill of Rights:


32.Khanna tries to reroute the conversation to the First Amendment, mention of which is generally hard to find in the files:


33.Within a day, head of Public Policy Lauren Culbertson receives a ghastly letter/report from Carl Szabo of the research firm NetChoice, which had already polled 12 members of congress 9 Rs and 3 Democrats, from "the House Judiciary Committee to Rep. Judy Chu's office."


34.NetChoice lets Twitter know a "blood bath" awaits in upcoming Hill hearings, with members saying it's a "tipping point," complaining tech has "grown so big that they can't even regulate themselves, so government may need to intervene."


35.Szabo reports to Twitter that some Hill figures are characterizing the laptop story as "tech's Access Hollywood moment":


36.Twitter files continued: "THE FIRST AMENDMENT ISN'T ABSOLUTE"
Szabo's letter contains chilling passages relaying Democratic lawmakers' attitudes. They want "more" moderation, and as for the Bill of Rights, it's "not absolute"



An amazing subplot of the Twitter/Hunter Biden laptop affair was how much was done without the knowledge of CEO Jack Dorsey, and how long it took for the situation to get "un****ed" (as one ex-employee put it) even after Dorsey jumped in.

While reviewing Gadde's emails, I saw a familiar name - my own. Dorsey sent her a copy of my Substack article blasting the incident


There are multiple instances in the files of Dorsey intervening to question suspensions and other moderation actions, for accounts across the political spectrum.

The problem with the "hacked materials" ruling, several sources said, was that this normally required an official/law enforcement finding of a hack. But such a finding never appears throughout what one executive describes as a "whirlwind" 24-hour, company-wide mess.


It's been a whirlwind 96 hours for me, too. There is much more to come, including answers to questions about issues like shadow-banning, boosting, follower counts, the fate of various individual accounts, and more. These issues are not limited to the political right.
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Sgt. Schultz said:

captkirk said:

FriscoKid said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Time to place your bets. Who made the call to twitter to suppress the story?
Someone from the FBI.



Not meant as a slam but this is not exactly new news. Zuckerberg said as much a month or two ago.


Yep and still nothing happens.
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Yoel Roth is election subverter #1.

Try him for sedition
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The politicians and staffers that emailed twitter are now massively exposed in civil rights issues

What a monstrous class action suit this could be
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. . . said:






But who is going to do anything about it ? The DOJ ? Nobody

They will investigate in the house with hearings and nothing !

After the ridiculous impeachment of Trump if our government was just Biden would be easily removed !

Nope Nothing
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Rockdoc said:

fka ftc said:

Actual Talking Thermos said:

fka ftc said:

I simply do not understand what treason is if this is not it.
A correct statement
Any person who had taken an oath of office, so all federal employees and members of both houses of congress, committed treason when requesting they censor free speech in order to overthrow the government.

My comment is how others, particularly dolts on the left who so brazenly claim muh insurrection!, do not see this.

Can you imagine if this was the Trump administration? Our lib friends on here would be going nuts.


Wrong. I have no lib friends.


Haha. Nor do I.. but I DO have a lib sister, which is worse. I have to love her and see her often.
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This is all very interesting, BUT:

1- Truly now, us "conspiracy theorists" already knew all this even without these revelations.

2- Nothing will happen to all these bad actors, criminals, gov't officials.

3- The corrupt left will continue on without repercussions, because the spineless deep state right politicians will let them off the hook every time.
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aggiephoenix02 said:

This is all very interesting, BUT:

1- Truly now, us "conspiracy theorists" already knew all this even without these revelations.

2- Nothing will happen to all these bad actors, criminals, gov't officials.

3- The corrupt left will continue on without repercussions, because the spineless deep state right politicians will let them off the hook every time.
4- Maybe all true. But unless Elon is offed / Killaried / Epsteined it will not happen this same way again. That alone is a win even if I want some folks here to rot in a cell.
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RedHand said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

AgBQ-00 said:

@Jack should have burned all of them when he had the chance before congress.
That would be sacrilege in his eyes.


Jack is a coward. He knew what was happening and chose to ignore it and then when it got too hot he bailed on the company he built.


He wasn't JUST a coward …he was a liberal allowing this to happen thus actively promoting the liberal and Biden agenda, and colluding to derail an election. I can't even think about his "testimony" without my blood boiling.
"I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna...I shall never surrender or retreat."
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I'm starting to think Trump should step aside and join forces with Elon as a civilian. What a team they would be if they can agree on targets.
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Sam and Dean said:

RedHand said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

AgBQ-00 said:

@Jack should have burned all of them when he had the chance before congress.
That would be sacrilege in his eyes.


Jack is a coward. He knew what was happening and chose to ignore it and then when it got too hot he bailed on the company he built.


He wasn't JUST a coward …he was a liberal allowing this to happen thus actively promoting the liberal and Biden agenda, and colluding to derail an election. I can't even think about his "testimony" without my blood boiling.
Hey… do y'all think Jack (jack@0.pizza), just may be compromised?!?
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Sam and Dean said:

RedHand said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

AgBQ-00 said:

@Jack should have burned all of them when he had the chance before congress.
That would be sacrilege in his eyes.


Jack is a coward. He knew what was happening and chose to ignore it and then when it got too hot he bailed on the company he built.


He wasn't JUST a coward …he was a liberal allowing this to happen thus actively promoting the liberal and Biden agenda, and colluding to derail an election. I can't even think about his "testimony" without my blood boiling.
I agree with this, and I think Elon is perhaps protecting his buddy here a bit too much. Seems pretty clear that Jack lied directly to Congress. It seems improbable that Jack was unaware of the narrative around the Hunter hack, NY Post, banning, etc.
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aggiephoenix02 said:

Sam and Dean said:

RedHand said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

AgBQ-00 said:

@Jack should have burned all of them when he had the chance before congress.
That would be sacrilege in his eyes.


Jack is a coward. He knew what was happening and chose to ignore it and then when it got too hot he bailed on the company he built.


He wasn't JUST a coward …he was a liberal allowing this to happen thus actively promoting the liberal and Biden agenda, and colluding to derail an election. I can't even think about his "testimony" without my blood boiling.
Hey… do y'all think Jack (jack@0.pizza), just may be compromised?!?
Liberals are compromised by default.
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