Trans women are women. Trans men are men.

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DarkBrandon0111
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There seems to be this idea among conservatives that trans people are just mentally ill perverts that dress up as the opposite gender. Conservatives believe it is a mental illness that needs to be corrected. They also believe they shouldn't use preferred pronouns because they would just be supporting mentally ill behavior.

It's easy to think like this at first glance, but digging into the actual issue paints a very different picture.

Here is the truth. Gender Dysphoria is not a mental illness. A mental illness means there is something wrong with the brain. For trans people, the problem comes from the body, not the brain. A trans woman has the brain of a women, but has a male body. Gender Dysphoria is a very serious issue that can cause major depression if left untreated. It HAS to be treated. There are two theoretical solutions to this.

1. We change the brain to make it match with the body.

2. We change the body to make it match with the brain.

Solution 1 is impossible with current scientific technology. Trans people probably don't want this option either. Solution
2 is possible, and it leads to overwhelming positive results. 99% of trans people are happy with their transition. Gender dysphoria is mostly gone after transitioning . The brain of a woman now has the body of woman to match it. The disconnect between the body and the brain is now fixed and trans people even feel physically better after. If you were cis and decided to take sex hormones of the opposite sex, you would feel bad physically because your brain would reject these hormones. This is what is feels like to have gender dysphoria. The body is constantly fighting against the brain 24/7.

To say that this is some kind of twisted perversion is ignorant. It is ignorant of basic science. Yes, chromosomes typically determine gender, but chromosomes ARE NOT gender. The chemicals in your brain ARE your gender. Chromosomes are just the blueprints for those chemicals, but the chemicals don't always follow that blueprints.

And one more thing. Gender dysphoria is not a social contagion. You can't "confuse" someone into having gender
dysphoria. Studies show that gender dysphoria has high correlation with autism, so you'd also have to say that autism is also socially contagious. The reason why blue cities have more trans kids isn't because they are brainwashed, it's because trans people are more accepted there. So they are more likely to come out. The reason why so many more kids are coming out as trans is because is becoming more accepted over time. I predict it will flatten out to a constant percentage, just like what happened with left handedness as it became more accepted.

bmks270
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Wrong.

It's a delusion. A false belief. It's an unhealthy desire to be something that is unattainable which results in destructive behaviors.

Changing the body is extremely harmful and irreversible.

Humans cannot have the body of one sex and brain of the other. That is not a medical condition ever documented, where some cells are XY and some are XX.


bmks270
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Kids also believe in Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny.

If adults tell a child that he is a she, he will believe them.
TheMasterplan
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"But only republicans push social issues."
Silent For Too Long
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Utter horse *****

Take, for example, teenage girls who like to pretend they are boys. This demographic basically didn't exist ten years ago, and now it's rampant.

Also, if gender is a "social construct then brains can't have gender. You can't have both ways.

I have no problem with adults doing whatever they want, but encouraging delusion among children is child abuse, plain and simple.
BigRobSA
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Idiocy.

You're born either male or female. If you "feel" that you're the opposite gender, that's the literal definition of a mental issue.

That doesn't mean that person shouldn't be treated with respect and not abused in any fashion, but GMAFB.
eric76
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BigRobSA said:

Idiocy.

You're born either male or female. If you "feel" that you're the opposite gender, that's the literal definition of a mental issue.

That doesn't mean that person shouldn't be treated with respect and not abused in any fashion, but GMAFB.
Strictly speaking, there are some chromosome abnormalities that result in people who are neither XX nor XY. XXY comes to mind but there are others as well.

What I've more curious about, though, is why we don't see tetraploid humans. Could they be there but so rare that they just haven't been noticed?

In some cases, I can see that surgery might help. I suspect, however, that nearly all trans are either XX or XY. People should, unless absolutely necessary, live with what they have.

After posting the above, I searched for tetraploid humans out of curiosity. From www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031393913001248?via%3Dihub
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A great majority of pregnancies with a tetraploid fetus end in miscarriage, or if the pregnancy goes to full term, the infant dies shortly after birth. Longer surveillance is rarely described.

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In this paper we report a 1.5-year-old boy with complete tetraploidy and review clinical features described in this aberration so far in order to raise clinicians' awareness of the symptoms, and point to G-banded karyotyping as a first-tier test.

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In the physical examination, numerous dysmorphic features were found: long cranium, sparse, fair hair, loss of skin on top of the head (on an area of 2 cm 2 cm), hypoplastic, low-set and rotated ears, long face, high forehead, short palpebral fissures, lack of the right eyeball and small left eyeball, long nose with pressed nasal tip and hypoplastic alae nasi, narrow upper lip, microstomia, short neck (Fig. 1). Moreover, high palate, club foot, long toes and arachnodactyly with long fingernails, abnormal position of the thumbs (Fig. 2), hypoplastic external genitalia (micro*****, small testes in the scrotum) were noted. The boy presented with muscle hypotonia and low spontaneous activity.

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At present, at the age of one year and 8 months, he still is at home under the care of the WHD. He is profoundly psychomotor ******ed, blind, responds only to sound stimuli. His weight is about 10 kg, is teat-fed and partially probe-fed. The dominant problems in the child's care are severe, recurrent respiratory infections.

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The patient presented herein is the twelfth live-born case with regular tetraploidy described in the literature so far [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]. Six were females and six were males. Except for four cases, all were born at term (3842 weeks of gestation).
Very interesting.
Kvetch
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Also, your ramblings about chemicals are pseudoscience bull***** If it weren't, the treatment for gender dysphoria would be SSRIs or psychotropic drugs, not chopping off your dick.

Stop trying to rationalize the irrational. It's pathetic.
johnnyblaze36
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Hey, OP-simple question for you:

What is a woman?
johnnyblaze36
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DarkBrandon0111 said:

There seems to be this idea among conservatives that trans people are just mentally ill perverts that dress up as the opposite gender. Conservatives believe it is a mental illness that needs to be corrected. They also believe they shouldn't use preferred pronouns because they would just be supporting mentally ill behavior.

It's easy to think like this at first glance, but digging into the actual issue paints a very different picture.

Here is the truth. Gender Dysphoria is not a mental illness. A mental illness means there is something wrong with the brain. For trans people, the problem comes from the body, not the brain. A trans woman has the brain of a women, but has a male body. Gender Dysphoria is a very serious issue that can cause major depression if left untreated. It HAS to be treated. There are two theoretical solutions to this.

1. We change the brain to make it match with the body.

2. We change the body to make it match with the brain.


Solution 1 is impossible with current scientific technology. Trans people probably don't want this option either. Solution
2 is possible, and it leads to overwhelming positive results. 99% of trans people are happy with their transition. Gender dysphoria is mostly gone after transitioning . The brain of a woman now has the body of woman to match it. The disconnect between the body and the brain is now fixed and trans people even feel physically better after. If you were cis and decided to take sex hormones of the opposite sex, you would feel bad physically because your brain would reject these hormones. This is what is feels like to have gender dysphoria. The body is constantly fighting against the brain 24/7.

To say that this is some kind of twisted perversion is ignorant. It is ignorant of basic science. Yes, chromosomes typically determine gender, but chromosomes ARE NOT gender. The chemicals in your brain ARE your gender. Chromosomes are just the blueprints for those chemicals, but the chemicals don't always follow that blueprints.

And one more thing. Gender dysphoria is not a social contagion. You can't "confuse" someone into having gender
dysphoria. Studies show that gender dysphoria has high correlation with autism, so you'd also have to say that autism is also socially contagious. The reason why blue cities have more trans kids isn't because they are brainwashed, it's because trans people are more accepted there. So they are more likely to come out. The reason why so many more kids are coming out as trans is because is becoming more accepted over time. I predict it will flatten out to a constant percentage, just like what happened with left handedness as it became more accepted.


All of the above but in particular the bolded parts are the most insane things ever written in the history of F16. No way this copy pasta can be real.
fightingfarmer09
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Are you a biologist?
Not a Bot
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Agree 100% with OP. We should also just start calling anorexics fat. I think that would help.
B-1 83
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And the OP is a troll.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Saltwater Assassin
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Since the beginning Satan has attacked children

This is not new
cisgenderedAggie
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What are the hormones and level ranges that describe the manifestation of woman brain/man body and vice versa? It's such a hot topic these days that a clinical lab panel should be possible and profitable.
Aggieland Proud
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The medical doctors are not God. Liberals are not God.

We think we can change things to the way Man wants things, including the climate.

No we can't! We are who God made us!
SparkleAg
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What exactly is the brain of a woman? In one of my first engineering jobs a male engineer told me that Women's brains were smaller and thats why they were not as good at math and science. I retorted back that I must be ounce for ounce smarter than him.

This man/woman brain stuff scares me because I have been fighting so long to prove there is no difference mentally and I can do the job just as well. Now the science says there is a difference?

Just because I like math and science, football and the color blue doesn't mean im a male. Women can do anything they want, like anything they want and be anything they want.
Clown_World
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The party of "science" ladies and gentlemen.

jetch17
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In before…
HoustonAg2106
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Hey OP, what is woman?
Dad-O-Lot
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For decades we've been told, "there aren't girl or boy jobs, or girl or boy colors, or girl or boy toys. Boys can wear pink, girls can be construction workers, boys can be nurses," etc...

Now we are being told, "Oh, if little Johnny likes to play with dolls, he must be a girl."

BULLCRAP!!!

The brain is actually very malleable, especially at younger ages. Whatever criteria one may use to identify a "male brain" versus a "female brain" I would suspect show massive overlap if you tested many men and many women. I also suspect you would get major differences if you tested the same person's brain at 22 versus 72.

Modern transgender theory and ideology is the most sexist garbage pushed in modern history. "Oh you like flannel and are uncomfortable with your breasts, you must be a man." "Sometimes you like to be feminine and other times masculine, you must be non-binary". It is complete garbage and absolutely detrimental to society.

Your sex/gender is not dependent on what you think or feel; it is based 100% solely on your chromosomes and reflected in genitalia. Yes there are abnormalities in a very small percentage of people. The current massive trend of transgenderism is a mass psychosis driven by social phenomenon.

If you like pink, wear pink. If you like flannel, wear flannel. If you want long/short hair, wear it that way. Live like you want to live, but don't lie to yourself about what your actual sex is.

Transgenderism is a massive step backwards in the progress towards equality of the sexes.
Owlagdad
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Trolling with opinions written to make idiots think they are facts.
gigemags-99
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Silent For Too Long said:

Utter horse *****

Take, for example, teenage girls who like to pretend they are boys. This demographic basically didn't exist ten years ago, and now it's rampant.

Also, if gender is a "social construct then brains can't have gender. You can't have both ways.

I have no problem with adults doing whatever they want, but encouraging delusion among children is child abuse, plain and simple.


Actually it did exist. We called them Tomboys, and they eventually grew out of it.
Canyon99
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You (individually or collectively as the left) don't get to change reality. Feel free to pretend; however, no one can be forced to accept your lie.
falconace
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gigemags-99 said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Utter horse *****

Take, for example, teenage girls who like to pretend they are boys. This demographic basically didn't exist ten years ago, and now it's rampant.

Also, if gender is a "social construct then brains can't have gender. You can't have both ways.

I have no problem with adults doing whatever they want, but encouraging delusion among children is child abuse, plain and simple.


Actually it did exist. We called them Tomboys, and they eventually grew out of it.


Many of the tomboys I knew turned into bombshells
mwlkr
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DarkBrandon0111 said:

There seems to be this idea among conservatives that trans people are just mentally ill perverts that dress up as the opposite gender. Conservatives believe it is a mental illness that needs to be corrected. They also believe they shouldn't use preferred pronouns because they would just be supporting mentally ill behavior.

It's easy to think like this at first glance, but digging into the actual issue paints a very different picture.

Here is the truth. Gender Dysphoria is not a mental illness. A mental illness means there is something wrong with the brain. For trans people, the problem comes from the body, not the brain. A trans woman has the brain of a women, but has a male body. Gender Dysphoria is a very serious issue that can cause major depression if left untreated. It HAS to be treated. There are two theoretical solutions to this.

1. We change the brain to make it match with the body.

2. We change the body to make it match with the brain.

Solution 1 is impossible with current scientific technology. Trans people probably don't want this option either. Solution
2 is possible, and it leads to overwhelming positive results. 99% of trans people are happy with their transition. Gender dysphoria is mostly gone after transitioning . The brain of a woman now has the body of woman to match it. The disconnect between the body and the brain is now fixed and trans people even feel physically better after. If you were cis and decided to take sex hormones of the opposite sex, you would feel bad physically because your brain would reject these hormones. This is what is feels like to have gender dysphoria. The body is constantly fighting against the brain 24/7.

To say that this is some kind of twisted perversion is ignorant. It is ignorant of basic science. Yes, chromosomes typically determine gender, but chromosomes ARE NOT gender. The chemicals in your brain ARE your gender. Chromosomes are just the blueprints for those chemicals, but the chemicals don't always follow that blueprints.

And one more thing. Gender dysphoria is not a social contagion. You can't "confuse" someone into having gender
dysphoria. Studies show that gender dysphoria has high correlation with autism, so you'd also have to say that autism is also socially contagious. The reason why blue cities have more trans kids isn't because they are brainwashed, it's because trans people are more accepted there. So they are more likely to come out. The reason why so many more kids are coming out as trans is because is becoming more accepted over time. I predict it will flatten out to a constant percentage, just like what happened with left handedness as it became more accepted.


You are a science denier.
Mega Lops
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Trans medicine is worse than nazi experimentation done on the Jews in holocaust camps.
aggiepanic95
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OP is not a man.
gigemags-99
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falconace said:

gigemags-99 said:

Silent For Too Long said:

Utter horse *****

Take, for example, teenage girls who like to pretend they are boys. This demographic basically didn't exist ten years ago, and now it's rampant.

Also, if gender is a "social construct then brains can't have gender. You can't have both ways.

I have no problem with adults doing whatever they want, but encouraging delusion among children is child abuse, plain and simple.


Actually it did exist. We called them Tomboys, and they eventually grew out of it.


Many of the tomboys I knew turned into bombshells


Yes. Based on my extensive experience with 80's movies, this is always the case.
IslanderAg04
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Read up buttercup https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255

You going to start saying schizophrenia isn't a mentall illness either?
HoustonAg2106
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The trans ideology is actually very anti gay. Instead of letting kids be feminine boys or masculine girls be themselves (if which many may be gay) they decide fir the child there is something wrong and we need to fix you.
AgLaw02
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Assuming everything OP says is 100% correct, I still don't think it's right to force girls to share a locker room with someone who has a *****, and I don't think it's respectful of woman's sports to make them compete against someone who went through puberty as a male.

None of these positions requires me to demonize anyone or believe anyone is mentally ill.
Adam87inSA
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SparkleAg said:

What exactly is the brain of a woman? In one of my first engineering jobs a male engineer told me that Women's brains were smaller and thats why they were not as good at math and science. I retorted back that I must be ounce for ounce smarter than him.

This man/woman brain stuff scares me because I have been fighting so long to prove there is no difference mentally and I can do the job just as well. Now the science says there is a difference?

Just because I like math and science, football and the color blue doesn't mean im a male. Women can do anything they want, like anything they want and be anything they want.
THIS!!

The cult of trans is inherently sexist at its core.
CDUB98
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Wrong.
Kyle Field Shade Chaser
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There is man and there is woman. God created man and woman. Period.
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