It was never about anything else. In an era with basically free birth control there is no longer any excuses.

The fact that so many women are single issue voters on this particular issue says everything you need to know. They are people who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions and are apparently incapable of accountability because they cannot think ahead.

Yes birth control sometimes fails, but it's very rare and you should not be completely reliant on birth control to protect yourself anyway. Birth control makes women's cycles pretty regular so you should be able to know when you're ovulating and not.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/rape-and-incest-account-few-abortions-so-why-all-attention/1211175001/

Rape and incest accounts for basically 1% of all abortions so the rest are clearly just being used as a form of birth control. It's high time we stop beating around the bush and say what abortion actually is being used to do, allow women to be as promiscuous as they want without any consequences.

The numerous abortion votes around the country prove that this is true especially since we know unmarried women vote overwhelmingly democrat.

Duh

I thought promiscuous women were awesome when I was in college and now that I have daughters, let's just say my views have changed just a tad.

It's also about keeping young men childless and lacking real responsibilities

Meh, most women that I've seen that are militant about abortion aren't exactly promiscuous (sp?) by choice at least. Their maker left them a little lacking in the looks department. I think the issue has become purely political. They don't even have a real reason for supporting abortion besides it serving as liberal virtue signaling.

I'm all for promiscuous women

Sodom & Gomorah will happen again.

lib policies are always about supporting the living, never the innocent. thats why the despise capital punishment and fetuses.

We have so radically devalued sex since the introduction of the artificial contraception, namely the pill. The thought that you SHOULDN'T have numerous partners prior to marriage is in the minority now

There are plenty of men that would like for the fruits of their promiscuity to be destroyed, as well.

Last I checked, it takes a baby daddy to create a baby mama. Abortion takes responsibility away from each.

Abortion is the natural consequence of separating the procreative act from its end. It is stripped of meaning. And if the act is meaningless, therefore so must be the result of that act.

It is contraceptive mentality taken to its logical end.

Don't want an abortion, don't have one. Leave everyone else alone. Small government. Let the women decide.

blacksox said:

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Don't want an abortion, don't have one. Leave everyone else alone. Small government. Let the women decide.

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Lol this is the most galaxy brain take I have ever seen. Don't like slavery? Don't own a slave. Don't like rape? Don't rape anyone. Let the people decide.

blacksox said:

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Don't want an abortion, don't have one. Leave everyone else alone. Small government. Let the women decide.

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The most ludicrous defense of abortion. Ever.

JFABNRGR said:

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Sodom & Gomorah will happen again.

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Why didn't it happen when the Soviets controlled Russia? Or Hitler Germany? Or the Communist in China? Or the Aztecs in Mexico? What is God waiting for?

blacksox said:

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Don't want an abortion, don't have one. Leave everyone else alone. Small government. Let the women decide.

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This is the kind of take you get from someone who, presumably as an adult, still hasn't evolved past "just a clump of cells".

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JFABNRGR said:

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Sodom & Gomorah will happen again.

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Why didn't it happen when the Soviets controlled Russia? Or Hitler Germany? Or the Communist in China? Or the Aztecs in Mexico? What is God waiting for?

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I know you're just making an attempt to mock God, but you'll notice that the Aztec empire was wiped from the face of the earth.

blacksox said:

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Don't want an abortion, don't have one. Leave everyone else alone. Small government. Let the women decide.

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Even the smallest governments criminalize murder.

BAP Enthusiast said:

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It was never about anything else. In an era with basically free birth control there is no longer any excuses.

The fact that so many women are single issue voters on this particular issue says everything you need to know. They are people who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions and are apparently incapable of accountability because they cannot think ahead.

Yes birth control sometimes fails, but it's very rare and you should not be completely reliant on birth control to protect yourself anyway. Birth control makes women's cycles pretty regular so you should be able to know when you're ovulating and not.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/rape-and-incest-account-few-abortions-so-why-all-attention/1211175001/

Rape and incest accounts for basically 1% of all abortions so the rest are clearly just being used as a form of birth control. It's high time we stop beating around the bush and say what abortion actually is being used to do, allow women to be as promiscuous as they want without any consequences.

The numerous abortion votes around the country prove that this is true especially since we know unmarried women vote overwhelmingly democrat.

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You have just discovered that "old maids" as we used to call them, but currently can be referred to as "fscked a lot of guys and none of them married them so they had to get rid of the kid" are feeling so strong about this topic. No man wants to marry a woman with kids unless the woman is exceptional. No exceptional woman has kids (in their mind). So they continue to look for Mr. Right, aborting their children until they meet Mr. Right. even into their old age. Then they are left with a scarred uterus, several would be children who wreck their psyche, and desperately wanting a white knight (who will never come in most cases) to extract them from their previous indescretion.

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Yes birth control sometimes fails, but it's very rare and you should not be completely reliant on birth control to protect yourself anyway. Birth control makes women's cycles pretty regular so you should be able to know when you're ovulating and not.

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Birth Control Comparison Based on Typical Use
Birth control methods can be grouped into different categories and some methods are more effective than others:1

• Natural Methods (not including abstinence): Birth control effectiveness for these methods range from 77%-95%.
• OTC Methods: Birth control effectiveness for these methods range from 72%-88%.
• Prescription Methods: Birth control effectiveness for these methods range between 86%-99.9%.
• Hormonal Methods: Birth control effectiveness for these methods range from 92%-99.9%.
• Permanent Methods: Birth control effectiveness for these methods range from 99.5%-99.9%.

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Birth control failure rates

Birth control failures with methods other than abstinence are anything but rare. Even tubal ligations have an ACOG published failure rate of 1 out of 400. I've personally seen a couple of dozen 2nd attempts at a post-partum tubal.

Not saying one should never roll the dice, but should do so with full knowledge of the odds.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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JFABNRGR said:

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Sodom & Gomorah will happen again.

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Why didn't it happen when the Soviets controlled Russia? Or Hitler Germany? Or the Communist in China? Or the Aztecs in Mexico? What is God waiting for?

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I know you're just making an attempt to mock God, but you'll notice that the Aztec empire was wiped from the face of the earth.

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That was God and not man? If so, that would mean that God created birth control.

Just another drive by.

Never stays to defend his idiocy.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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Yes birth control sometimes fails, but it's very rare and you should not be completely reliant on birth control to protect yourself anyway. Birth control makes women's cycles pretty regular so you should be able to know when you're ovulating and not.

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Birth Control Comparison Based on Typical Use
Birth control methods can be grouped into different categories and some methods are more effective than others:1

• Natural Methods (not including abstinence): Birth control effectiveness for these methods range from 77%-95%.
• OTC Methods: Birth control effectiveness for these methods range from 72%-88%.
• Prescription Methods: Birth control effectiveness for these methods range between 86%-99.9%.
• Hormonal Methods: Birth control effectiveness for these methods range from 92%-99.9%.
• Permanent Methods: Birth control effectiveness for these methods range from 99.5%-99.9%.

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Birth control failure rates

Birth control failures with methods other than abstinence are anything but rare. Even tubal ligations have an ACOG published failure rate of 1 out of 400. I've personally seen a couple of dozen 2nd attempts at a post-partum tubal.

Not saying one should never roll the dice, but should do so with full knowledge of the odds.

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Wait! My wife had her tubes tied. Are you saying there is an 0.5 percent chance I could be knocking her up!? Is that per session?

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RebelE Infantry said:

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JFABNRGR said:

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Sodom & Gomorah will happen again.

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Why didn't it happen when the Soviets controlled Russia? Or Hitler Germany? Or the Communist in China? Or the Aztecs in Mexico? What is God waiting for?

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I know you're just making an attempt to mock God, but you'll notice that the Aztec empire was wiped from the face of the earth.

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That was God and not man? So that would mean that God created birth control.

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What in the world are you talking about?

My math says 0.25%, but yeah that's per session. Statistically speaking you're going to hit one over the fence every 400 times you're at the plate.

RebelE Infantry said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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JFABNRGR said:

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Sodom & Gomorah will happen again.

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Take it to the RP board! They would love to have you! See you there!

Take it to the religious board. They would love to have you! See you there!

Why didn't it happen when the Soviets controlled Russia? Or Hitler Germany? Or the Communist in China? Or the Aztecs in Mexico? What is God waiting for?

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I know you're just making an attempt to mock God, but you'll notice that the Aztec empire was wiped from the face of the earth.

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That was God and not man? So that would mean that God created birth control.

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What in the world are you talking about?

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blacksox said:

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Don't want an abortion, don't have one. Leave everyone else alone. Small government. Let the women decide.

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Don't want to commit murder? Then don't murder anyone. Leave all the murderers alone. Small government let the individual decide.

Don't want to be raped? Then Don't get raped. Leave the rapists alone. Small government. Let people decide if they want to be rapists on their own.

Hmmmmm the extension of your small government argument is......lacking

BAP Enthusiast said:

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It was never about anything else. In an era with basically free birth control there is no longer any excuses.

The fact that so many women are single issue voters on this particular issue says everything you need to know. They are people who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions and are apparently incapable of accountability because they cannot think ahead.

Yes birth control sometimes fails, but it's very rare and you should not be completely reliant on birth control to protect yourself anyway. Birth control makes women's cycles pretty regular so you should be able to know when you're ovulating and not.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/rape-and-incest-account-few-abortions-so-why-all-attention/1211175001/

Rape and incest accounts for basically 1% of all abortions so the rest are clearly just being used as a form of birth control. It's high time we stop beating around the bush and say what abortion actually is being used to do, allow women to be as promiscuous as they want without any consequences.

The numerous abortion votes around the country prove that this is true especially since we know unmarried women vote overwhelmingly democrat.

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Single women's abortions limit the amount of democrats in society.

RebelE Infantry said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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JFABNRGR said:

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Sodom & Gomorah will happen again.

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Why didn't it happen when the Soviets controlled Russia? Or Hitler Germany? Or the Communist in China? Or the Aztecs in Mexico? What is God waiting for?

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I know you're just making an attempt to mock God, but you'll notice that the Aztec empire was wiped from the face of the earth.

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That was God and not man? So that would mean that God created birth control.

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What in the world are you talking about?

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Well, the Aztecs were defeated by men and that was apparently similar to God's act with Sodom and Gomorrah. So therefore God had man create birth control.

blacksox said:

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Don't want an abortion, don't have one. Leave everyone else alone. Small government. Let the women decide.

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No sir this is a child innocent creation of God who is made in his image , how about you read Jeremiah 1:5 anyone who has an abortion or aids in abortion unless they repent they will find the wrath of hell on judgement day

Literally every part of the liberal agenda has direct ties to excusing individuals from personal responsibility.

CrottyKid said:

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Literally every part of the liberal agenda has direct ties to excusing individuals from personal responsibility.

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It's an easy sell to lazy degenerates of society when you're not held accountable for anything or you don't have to put in any work then you can sell that all day long

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RebelE Infantry said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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JFABNRGR said:

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Sodom & Gomorah will happen again.

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Why didn't it happen when the Soviets controlled Russia? Or Hitler Germany? Or the Communist in China? Or the Aztecs in Mexico? What is God waiting for?

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I know you're just making an attempt to mock God, but you'll notice that the Aztec empire was wiped from the face of the earth.

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That was God and not man? So that would mean that God created birth control.

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What in the world are you talking about?

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Well, the Aztecs were defeated by men and that was apparently similar to God's act with Sodom and Gomorrah. So therefore God had man create birth control.

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No! Do you even know why Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed?!