Totalitarianism and the Progressive Impulse

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AgBQ-00
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Shorter video from James Lindsey (~35 minutes)

Just started listening about 8 minutes in and he phrased the discussion of right v left when talking about commies and nazis misses the point. The point is they are right and left of the progressive movement. That is the important characteristic...they are both progressive movements that operate from their own form of Gnosticism.

So thankful that James has gone about this labor of academically looking into the roots of the progressive movement and the modern woke cultism.

AgBQ-00
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Orientation of the disagreement between the two:
Marx: Class
Hitler: Race

Marx saw lower classes rising to overthrow the existing repression to create their utopian vision.
Hitler saw what he considered as the dominant race getting rid of the dregs to create their utopian vision.

Both believed in totalitarianism to create the Gnostic vision they had of history and the future. That is why the fighting between the two was so nasty. They were the same with a slight different focus of how perfection is gained.

This is a really good listen. Would recommend
AgBQ-00
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Also of note a thought that came to mind while listening. The American counterpart progressive movement sees the state as moving mankind to perfection through the elite professional bureaucrat class. It is why we see our system getting more and more totalitarian with regulations and laws etc...It is the same thought pattern with a twist.

Progressives: modern day heretical Gnostics
titan
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That is all true, and is a version of Jonah Goldberg's point in "Liberal Fascism". It all makes more sense when you see that both descend from the "remake it all" using the state, and nothign recognized outside the state, train of thought.

One thing though, Hitler's also had an overlooked component of social behavior perception --- the "dolchstoss" theory, the stab in the back mythos of the ending of WW I and the role red revolution played in it (such as the Kaiser's Navy), and the belief that degeneracy and the decline of Germany was being promoted in behavior also played a role. It had a defensive reactionary element against Marxist post WW I influence that is the key to understanding why Germans perceived threats the Nazis were able to use, not just in terms of bigotry.

You say "shorter video" in your OP. Is there a longer version?
AgBQ-00
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No, it is just a shorter video for him. Most of his stuff goes 2.5 hours or more. The guy is a fount of knowledge and understanding of the leftist menace we are facing.
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