Ruh Roh: California Faces $8 Billion Deficit

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https://apnews.com/article/business-california-economy-government-and-politics-efcfe1ebc2d034175cd40e75e43fea5e

" SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) The good times might soon be over for California's government.

The nation's most populous state has had so much cash lately that lawmakers have spent freely handing out free health care to low-income immigrants, paying for every 4-year-old to attend kindergarten and sending more than $21 billion in stimulus checks to taxpayers over the past two years.

That seemingly endless flow of money has started to dry up as state tax collections have fallen below expectations for four months in a row. There's now an 80% chance California will be about $8 billion short when its fiscal year ends next summer, according to the latest estimate from the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office."

"… the trend of declining revenues is already having an impact. Last month, Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom blocked a tax cut for manufacturers, halted an expansion of full-day kindergarten programs and nixed unemployment benefits for immigrants living in the country without legal permission all while citing the state's potential shortfall."

" It could also signal some volatility between Newsom and California's Democratic-controlled state Legislature. This year, Newsom scolded lawmakers for passing bills at the end of the session that, when added all together, would have allowed $22 billion in new spending that was not accounted for in the state budget."

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Providing free flights and abortions for women, transgender costs and fighting lawsuits over freedom of religion and second amendment rights really adds to the cost of California government.
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Funky Winkerbean
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Stupid is as stupid does.
YouBet
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Hahaha! Economic realities always come home to roost.

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" It could also signal some volatility between Newsom and California's Democratic-controlled state Legislature. This year, Newsom scolded lawmakers for passing bills at the end of the session that, when added all together, would have allowed $22 billion in new spending that was not accounted for in the state budget."
Dumbass.
captkirk
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unemployment benefits for immigrants living in the country without legal permission
WTF?
jt2hunt
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Bizarro world
Maroon Dawn
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Be a real shame if they simply couldn't keep pretending Cali is still the Cali of the 50s/60s to try and prop up a GN run for president in 2024
clobby
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Time to increase taxes.
buzzardb267
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So when their oppressive and idiotic social and fiscal policies start driving people/business out of CA, they can't figure out those are the people that have been funding their oppressive and idiotic policies?

Which comedian once said "California is like a bowl of granola....what ain't fruits and nuts is flakes"?
winmck
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No worries, Nancy will slide some money their way.
techno-ag
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Meanwhile Meta and other Palo Alto tech stocks sank like a rock this week.

Trump will fix it.
aggiehawg
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YouBet said:

Hahaha! Economic realities always come home to roost.

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" It could also signal some volatility between Newsom and California's Democratic-controlled state Legislature. This year, Newsom scolded lawmakers for passing bills at the end of the session that, when added all together, would have allowed $22 billion in new spending that was not accounted for in the state budget."
Dumbass.
Did he sign them or not? That's the question.
FTAG 2000
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aggiehawg said:

YouBet said:

Hahaha! Economic realities always come home to roost.

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" It could also signal some volatility between Newsom and California's Democratic-controlled state Legislature. This year, Newsom scolded lawmakers for passing bills at the end of the session that, when added all together, would have allowed $22 billion in new spending that was not accounted for in the state budget."
Dumbass.
Did he sign them or not? That's the question.


lol. him trying to pass the buck to the legislature.

his big surplus talking point relative to how great Cali is doing and his presidential aspirations take a hit if all of a sudden he's got a multi billion dollar deficit albatross hanging around his neck.
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YouBet said:

Hahaha! Economic realities always come home to roost.

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" It could also signal some volatility between Newsom and California's Democratic-controlled state Legislature. This year, Newsom scolded lawmakers for passing bills at the end of the session that, when added all together, would have allowed $22 billion in new spending that was not accounted for in the state budget."
Dumbass.

He's trying to look like the grown up in the room. Positioning himself for his next office run...
YouBet
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Relevant on California's corporate exodus:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/californias-corporate-exodus-business-flight-gavin-newsom-lee-ohanian-joseph-vranich-hoover-institution-11666789943?st=lrkjorj9f689vam&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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The report by Hoover senior fellow Lee Ohanian and Spectrum Location Solutions President Joseph Vranich finds that 352 companies moved their headquarters from California between 2018 and 2021. Twice as many businesses left last year (153) than in 2020 and 2019 and three times as many as in 2018. The top destinations: Texas (132), Tennessee (31), Nevada (25), Florida (24) and Arizona (21).

What do they have in common? Low taxes and a lower cost-of-living. The report cites a litany of #Californiaproblems, including burdensome overtime work rules, litigation risk, high costs for labor and workers' compensation insurance, oppressive taxes, surging electricity rates, a permitting morass, diminishing quality of life, lousy public schools, and exorbitant housing costs that make it difficult to retain employees.
Lol:

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No wonder Mr. Newsom seems to be setting the ground to run for President in 2024. Like many CEOs, maybe he wants to get out of the state before things get worse.
aggiehawg
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No wonder Mr. Newsom seems to be setting the ground to run for President in 2024. Like many CEOs, maybe he wants to get out of the state before things get worse.
LOLOLOLOL! That's funny because it's so true.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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good if they feel enough pain they may finally wake up.
HumpitPuryear
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Newsome isn't worried. The feds will bail them out
EskimoJoe
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HumpitPuryear said:

Newsome isn't worried. The feds will bail them out


and the press will make no mention of it or the huge deficit.
JohnLA762
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HumpitPuryear said:

Newsome isn't worried. The feds will bail them out


It's almost like it's intentional…

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

good if they feel enough pain they may finally wake up.
Your comment is always the gold standard for the benighted to see.

It generally takes a while, because the Dems could NEVER allow themselves to see another POV, so the pain is likely to be significant.
AlaskanAg99
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Their pensions are a dumpster fire. They never had a surplus.

"CalPERS now has approximately $611 billion in pension debt and is 72% funded, meaning it only has 72 cents of every dollar in retirement benefits already promised to workers. "

https://www.ocregister.com/2022/07/23/californias-unfunded-pension-liabilities-grow-and-costs-will-hit-local-governments

And that's just 1 state pension.
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dmart90 said:

YouBet said:

Hahaha! Economic realities always come home to roost.

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" It could also signal some volatility between Newsom and California's Democratic-controlled state Legislature. This year, Newsom scolded lawmakers for passing bills at the end of the session that, when added all together, would have allowed $22 billion in new spending that was not accounted for in the state budget."
Dumbass.

He's trying to look like the grown up in the room. Positioning himself for his next office run...
The California governor can veto any bill that lands on his desk. Bet you he didn't and won't veto any.

Jock 07
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How bad must it be when newsome is the bastion of fiscal responsibility
Signel
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Nah, they will be switching to e-RMB soon and it won't matter anymore.

Fullcommie.

deer corn
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winmck said:

No worries, Nancy will slide some money their way.


Time to start some more fires.
oldarmyjess66
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They will expect the Federal Government to bail them out.
mjschiller
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Hasn't California been bailed out before?
Space-Tech
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Interesting how OP forgot to post this tidbit:

"Despite the shortfall, California is likely not headed toward another cash crisis like the one that engulfed the state during the Great Recession more than a decade ago. California had less than $8 billion available to spend at the end of September 2008 during the Great Recession. This year, California has more than $130 billion available, including $37.2 billion in its various savings accounts."

Couldn't be someone trying to spin a narrative, could it?
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Space-Tech said:

Interesting how OP forgot to post this tidbit:

"Despite the shortfall, California is likely not headed toward another cash crisis like the one that engulfed the state during the Great Recession more than a decade ago. California had less than $8 billion available to spend at the end of September 2008 during the Great Recession. This year, California has more than $130 billion available, including $37.2 billion in its various savings accounts."

Couldn't be someone trying to spin a narrative, could it?
You may not believe this, but that's what the media does.
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HumpitPuryear said:

Newsome isn't worried. The feds will bail them out


Maybe
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Space-Tech
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Space-Tech said:

Interesting how OP forgot to post this tidbit:

"Despite the shortfall, California is likely not headed toward another cash crisis like the one that engulfed the state during the Great Recession more than a decade ago. California had less than $8 billion available to spend at the end of September 2008 during the Great Recession. This year, California has more than $130 billion available, including $37.2 billion in its various savings accounts."

Couldn't be someone trying to spin a narrative, could it?
You may not believe this, but that's what the media does.


And there's seemingly endless supply of dopes that consume their "brand" of news.
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That's the part of Simcity where the game tells you that you are hopelessly in debt, and ends.
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HumpitPuryear said:

Newsome isn't worried. The feds will bail them out
Agree completely. Midterm elections looming large, need conservatives in the House and Senate that could refuse to bail out California's idiocracy.
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