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Talking to a co-worker about the sudden deaths. Said her son's middle school 30-something PE teacher dropped dead this fall from a.........wait for it....wait for it.....


HEART ATTACK

This is normal though.

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Just possibly -- were they running?

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agracer said:

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Talking to a co-worker about the sudden deaths. Said her son's middle school 30-something PE teacher dropped dead this fall from a.........wait for it....wait for it.....


HEART ATTACK

This is normal though.

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Just possibly -- were they running?

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does it matter?

This is FIVE random heart attack deaths I've know/heard about in the last 18-months. That's a ridiculously high number compared to my previous 50+ years on this planet.

And yes, I expect as I get older you hear more and more about death because my circle of friends is getting older. It happens. But not FIVE random heart attack deaths in 18 months.

agracer said:

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agracer said:

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Talking to a co-worker about the sudden deaths. Said her son's middle school 30-something PE teacher dropped dead this fall from a.........wait for it....wait for it.....


HEART ATTACK

This is normal though.

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Just possibly -- were they running?

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does it matter?

This is FIVE random heart attack deaths I've know/heard about in the last 18-months. That's a ridiculously high number compared to my previous 50+ years on this planet.

And yes, I expect as I get older you hear more and more about death because my circle of friends is getting older. It happens. But not FIVE random heart attack deaths in 18 months.

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It matters in the same way the vax does. Any common denominator is probably worth a second look. Running continuously has never intuitively seemed "all that good" -- its an emergency reserve. A short term burst by nature. The real possibility that some fad or health drive was actually doing something bad might be worth considering.

Both died suddenly of heart attacks, but its totally normal. Noting to see here; move along and get another dose of the Fauci juice.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/24/abc-news-this-week-producer-dax-tejera-dead-at-37/

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ufc-hall-of-famer-stephan-bonnar-dead-45

Thanks Trump

Why do these threads always have to include some posters chest thumping over not getting the vaccine like they are some kind of ****ing badass hero?

WestTexasAg said:

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Why do these threads always have to include some posters chest thumping over not getting the vaccine like they are some kind of ****ing badass hero?

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Because people want to remind those that were forced to take the vaccines that it was a bad thing … it needs to never happen again .. many many people did not want to take these experimental vaccines but were forced to take them to keep there jobs …. People need to be constantly reminded how all this happened

Sad part is what they are now doing to people .. I bet if they actually published the heart rate deaths it would be wildly crazy vs pre vaccine years, especially for certain age groups

Don't get mad at people for constantly talking about this, it needs to be understood and realized by all including those who took these vaccines

I won't give my status if that makes your feel
Better

Some people coerced some other people to do something that was against their own self interest.

And that something was participate in a mass medical experimentation on humans.

I don't know how we talk around that fact.

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WestTexasAg said:

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Why do these threads always have to include some posters chest thumping over not getting the vaccine like they are some kind of ****ing badass hero?

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Because people want to remind those that were forced to take the vaccines that it was a bad thing … it needs to never happen again .. many many people did not want to take these experimental vaccines but were forced to take them to keep there jobs …. People need to be constantly reminded how all this happened

Sad part is what they are now doing to people .. I bet if they actually published the heart rate deaths it would be wildly crazy vs pre vaccine years, especially for certain age groups

Don't get mad at people for constantly talking about this, it needs to be understood and realized by all including those who took these vaccines

I won't give my status if that makes your feel
Better

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I'm in full agreement with you on it being forced on people. Not in favor of that AT ALL. I have zero problem with those who took it, or those who did not. What I don't like is either side crowing about it like they deserve a medal for taking/not taking it.

People took a lot of grief for a year and a half over their vaccine opinion.

Thats still fresh on people's minds and they want to send that dish back to the kitchen.

WestTexasAg said:

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fullback44 said:

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WestTexasAg said:

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Why do these threads always have to include some posters chest thumping over not getting the vaccine like they are some kind of ****ing badass hero?

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Because people want to remind those that were forced to take the vaccines that it was a bad thing … it needs to never happen again .. many many people did not want to take these experimental vaccines but were forced to take them to keep there jobs …. People need to be constantly reminded how all this happened

Sad part is what they are now doing to people .. I bet if they actually published the heart rate deaths it would be wildly crazy vs pre vaccine years, especially for certain age groups

Don't get mad at people for constantly talking about this, it needs to be understood and realized by all including those who took these vaccines

I won't give my status if that makes your feel
Better

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I'm in full agreement with you on it being forced on people. Not in favor of that AT ALL. I have zero problem with those who took it, or those who did not. What I don't like is either side crowing about it like they deserve a medal for taking/not taking it.

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But that's the root of the issue, one side was openly persecuted to the point of losing their job if they didn't get it. You are naturally going to have a large contingent openly bitter about it. This is still America for a little bit longer where we are supposedly free to make our own choices. We are too divided as a nation now so you can only expect some in your face back at you when the leader of the country used an unconstitutional act via a govt agency to force people to do something against their will.

At what point do you draw the line before you voice your displeasure openly?

WestTexasAg said:

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fullback44 said:

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WestTexasAg said:

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Why do these threads always have to include some posters chest thumping over not getting the vaccine like they are some kind of ****ing badass hero?

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Because people want to remind those that were forced to take the vaccines that it was a bad thing … it needs to never happen again .. many many people did not want to take these experimental vaccines but were forced to take them to keep there jobs …. People need to be constantly reminded how all this happened

Sad part is what they are now doing to people .. I bet if they actually published the heart rate deaths it would be wildly crazy vs pre vaccine years, especially for certain age groups

Don't get mad at people for constantly talking about this, it needs to be understood and realized by all including those who took these vaccines

I won't give my status if that makes your feel
Better

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I'm in full agreement with you on it being forced on people. Not in favor of that AT ALL. I have zero problem with those who took it, or those who did not. What I don't like is either side crowing about it like they deserve a medal for taking/not taking it.

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I'll "crow" about it all day long. People were ready to ostracize me, people were ready to arrest me for not taking it. People lost their jobs. I feel bad for the people that were forced to take it, but I don't really care about the sheep that lined up and then virtue signaled.

I look at it as a Pascal's wager of sorts. Maybe the vaccine isn't dangerous. But I'm not the one that has to worry. If it's safe, good for those people. If it's not, tough **** brahs. I have very little sympathy after the mass psychosis we engaged in.

Remember, nothing is free. If it's "free", you're the product.

And in about 8 months the tone went from begging for people to get it to protect themselves and family to "get it or lose your job". Crow away, we deserve it, because wait until the next govt overreach when the same people dutifully line up to walk up the ramp to the boxcars while those in charge point the way.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/23/navy-seal-commander-robert-ramirez-found-dead-in-his-california-home/

Sadly he took his own life.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-11593183/Former-Jacksonville-Jaguars-guard-Uche-Nwaneri-dies-age-38.html

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Uche Nwaneri, the former Jacksonville Jaguars player, has died at the age of 38.

Reports say that Nwaneri died Friday of acute heart failure after collapsing at his wife's home in West Lafayette, Indianapolis, and could not be saved.

She reportedly found him unresponsive in a bedroom and called 911. According to the Lafayette Journal and Courier, an autopsy showed no indication of foul play.

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Oh you mean the Trump vaccines?

RIP. Another former pro-athlete dies of coincidence.

JP_LoA sman said:

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Oh you mean the Trump vaccines?

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Trump never tried to force anyone to take them.

Biden attempted to force everyone to unless they wanted to lose their job or not be allowed to attend school.

A majority of Democrats wanted to put all of the "unvaxxded" into concentration camps.

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JP_LoA sman said:

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Oh you mean the Trump vaccines?

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Trump never tried to force anyone to take them.

Biden attempted to force everyone to unless they wanted to lose their job or not be allowed to attend school.

A majority of Democrats wanted to put all of the "unvaxxded" into concentration camps.

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There were places where restaurants and stores, including grocery stores, wanted you to show your vaccination card before you could shop there.

Doesn't matter. Trump paved the way for the vaccines. He is the author of millions of American deaths

JP_Losman said:

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Doesn't matter. Trump paved the way for the vaccines. He is the author of millions of American deaths

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Troll harder.

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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We lived through a 2-year-long episode of the tv show Black Mirror.

We lived it.

All logic and reason went out the window, Hysteria prevailed.

Makes me question reality.

Reminds me of that episode of the Twilight zone where the neighbors on the street go crazy with hysteria and start killing each other. Then they finally come to their senses and realize what they done,

It also reminds me a lot of Lord of the Flies.

Piggy dared speak the truth and they cancelled his ass.

Covid was mass hysteria, mass psychosis and groupthink for professionals that should have known better and should have spoken out,

Two years out and we can see that now.

We come full circle. And a lot of damage done gettin there,

Everyone in leadership failed to do what they are supposed to do.

Covid response was the biggest failure of all time.

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One man's failure is another man's success. Various governments (and corporations) around the world greatly increased their power over the last two years.

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It wasn't just a success, it was one that they rehearsed in public view mere weeks before the first case of COVID-19 was recorded in China. The rehearsal was a tabletop simulation called Event 201 sponsored by the Gates Foundation, WHO, CDC, and the pharmaceutical industry. It was focused on enforcing population discipline (lockdowns, masking, financial sanctions) and enforced vaccinations. It focused on shutting down misinformation (dissent) and quickly subjugation individual liberty to emergency powers. The very people who did this to us had rehearsed their roles right before the pandemic and had been commended, applauded, and rewarded for trading individual rights in the simulation exercise so they didn't even blink when they did it for real a few months later.

Ulysses90 said:

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Pookers said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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We lived through a 2-year-long episode of the tv show Black Mirror.

We lived it.

All logic and reason went out the window, Hysteria prevailed.

Makes me question reality.

Reminds me of that episode of the Twilight zone where the neighbors on the street go crazy with hysteria and start killing each other. Then they finally come to their senses and realize what they done,

It also reminds me a lot of Lord of the Flies.

Piggy dared speak the truth and they cancelled his ass.

Covid was mass hysteria, mass psychosis and groupthink for professionals that should have known better and should have spoken out,

Two years out and we can see that now.

We come full circle. And a lot of damage done gettin there,

Everyone in leadership failed to do what they are supposed to do.

Covid response was the biggest failure of all time.

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One man's failure is another man's success. Various governments (and corporations) around the world greatly increased their power over the last two years.

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It wasn't just a success, it was one that they rehearsed in public view mere weeks before the first case of COVID-19 was recorded in China. The rehearsal was a tabletop simulation called Event 201 sponsored by the Gates Foundation, WHO, CDC, and the pharmaceutical industry. It was focused on enforcing population discipline (lockdowns, masking, financial sanctions) and enforced vaccinations. It focused on shutting down misinformation (dissent) and quickly subjugation individual liberty to emergency powers. The very people who did this to us had rehearsed their roles right before the pandemic and had been commended, applauded, and rewarded for trading individual rights in the simulation exercise so they didn't even blink when they did it for real a few months later.

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Preach brother. Billy Gates is apparently down in South America currently doing a similar exercise for a different, more lethal virus.

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JP_LoA sman said:

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Oh you mean the Trump vaccines?

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Trump never tried to force anyone to take them.

Biden attempted to force everyone to unless they wanted to lose their job or not be allowed to attend school.

A majority of Democrats wanted to put all of the "unvaxxded" into concentration camps.

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True, but his Administration did allow Gain of Function research to RESTART IN CHINA in 2016.

JP_Losman said:

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Doesn't matter. Trump paved the way for the vaccines. He is the author of millions of American deaths

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This is the ultimate attempt at a re-write of history, not surprising from leftists.

I know you didn't come up with this on your own, what msm outlet gave you intructions for this?

samurai_science said:

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Rapier108 said:

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JP_LoA sman said:

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Oh you mean the Trump vaccines?

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Trump never tried to force anyone to take them.

Biden attempted to force everyone to unless they wanted to lose their job or not be allowed to attend school.

A majority of Democrats wanted to put all of the "unvaxxded" into concentration camps.

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True, but his Administration did allow Gain of Function research to RESTART IN CHINA in 2016.

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Just so we're all on the same sheet of music, who was President in 2016?

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JP_Losman said:

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Doesn't matter. Trump paved the way for the vaccines. He is the author of millions of American deaths

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This is the ultimate attempt at a re-write of history, not surprising from leftists.

I know you didn't come up with this on your own, what msm outlet gave you intructions for this?

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It may also be willful ignorance that the playbook for vaccines as the single focus response to pandemics had been perfected over the past seven Presidential administrations while Anthiny Fauci ran NIAID and turned it into a government pharma lab.

Since 1984, NIAID and NIH have executed of $800B of federal budget and >90% of that has been spent on patenting drugs that they then license to pharmaceutical companies. The same people whose names appear on these patents then sit on the FDA boards that recommend approval for the drugs on which they will collect royalties. For vaccines, it's even better because the government indemnifies the pharmaceutical industry against lawsuits for vaccine injuries. The government officials then retire from civil service to take Executive positions at pharmaceutical companies.

The CDV, NIH, NIAID, and AMA hit the Trump administration like a freight train running over a stalled car at a grade crossing. Trump certainly didn't see it coming nor did any of his advisors. They were being played from the very beginning. Trump's guilt is in not firing Fauci when he got caught in his first public lie.

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Doesn't matter. Trump paved the way for the vaccines. He is the author of millions of American deaths

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Given the level of propaganda we see on a regular basis if you are vaxxed and boosted, trump has saved literally 100s of millions.

Censorship brought us here.

Nope. Willful ignorance. The information was/is out there.

Doctors on Premium literally posting that asking questions means you have an agenda. That should scare the **** out of people regardless of the medical topic

Eh so 20 something year old elite athlete Damar Hamlin just… died suddenly standing up. Never happened before…

DannyDuberstein said:

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Doctors on Premium literally posting that asking questions means you have an agenda. That should scare the **** out of people regardless of the medical topic

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Well we do. It's a free speech agenda. Those aren't so popular right now

You'd be banned for discussing a lab leak on 84.

More and more people I know coming down with weird ***** Nurses talking about a lot of stillborn.