Might not be a bad idea to pull some cash out/buy more ammo

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TexAgs91 said:

Usually I hear that the proper way to protect yourself is to buy gold. Is that not the case in this situation?
From an investment standpoint, gold has declined with everything else. It has not been the inflation hedge that it normally is in periods of high inflation.

From a societal collapse standpoint, it's not much better until you get past the initial months to years purge of humanity. Vast majority of us won't survive that.
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OverSeas AG said:

Ever notice how @gac06 just says everyone else is wrong, but never explains what he/she believes is right.

Not very hard to do that.
Yep, pretty dumb to just discount the whole bond portion of that article when pretty much everyone in the industry is talking about it.

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TexAgs91 said:

Usually I hear that the proper way to protect yourself is to buy gold. Is that not the case in this situation?
From an investment standpoint, gold has declined with everything else. It has not been the inflation hedge that it normally is in periods of high inflation.

From a societal collapse standpoint, it's not much better until you get past the initial months to years purge of humanity. Vast majority of us won't survive that.
Wonderful. So, you agree with the OP? Energy. Bitcoin. Land. Timber. Critical metals, like copper. High-quality, capital efficient businesses that aren't in debt?
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TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

Usually I hear that the proper way to protect yourself is to buy gold. Is that not the case in this situation?
From an investment standpoint, gold has declined with everything else. It has not been the inflation hedge that it normally is in periods of high inflation.

From a societal collapse standpoint, it's not much better until you get past the initial months to years purge of humanity. Vast majority of us won't survive that.
Wonderful. So, you agree with the OP? Energy. Bitcoin. Land. Timber. Critical metals, like copper. High-quality, capital efficient businesses that aren't in debt?
I just know **** is very bad. Most of the "experts" whose personal livelihood in keeping you in the markets are denying that we are in a recession despite all of the data that shows contrary. Clowns. Many other experts I see sounding the alarm on treasuries and derivatives and that we are looking at a catastrophic reckoning.

I own a small cache of bitcoin purely as a bet / insurance / hope that it becomes an outlet for when we get US CBDC. Rest of my portfolio is pretty diversified but does not reflect large percentages in what you posted. And I question WTF I'm doing every day.

The problem is that all bets are off at this point and no one really knows WTF is going to happen.
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YouBet said:

OverSeas AG said:

Ever notice how @gac06 just says everyone else is wrong, but never explains what he/she believes is right.

Not very hard to do that.
Yep, pretty dumb to just discount the whole bond portion of that article when pretty much everyone in the industry is talking about it.




Bond market has gone bonkos.
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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

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Greed, corruption, deceit, thievery etc. will be our downfall. None of these are Godly or virtuous traits/practices.




He's a definite white lib!
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As usual, this will be a fun bump in a few years when nothing has changed and the only purpose of this thread was to fund zerohedge's clickbait advertising budget. Amazing that people still fall for this.
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Come on guys. This is ridiculous.
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So all the financial guys on CNBC are full of **** about the treasuries and bonds issues?

Noted. CNBC is fake news and we have zero systemic financial issues.

Did printing money not impact inflation either?
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#1 According to a recent Gallup survey, two-thirds of Americans believe that economic conditions are getting worse. When such a large proportion of the population starts behaving as though an economic downturn is coming, that actually makes an economic downturn even more likely. So many Americans are starting to hold on to their money more tightly, and that is having lots of ripple effects.

#2 The second largest auto lender in the United States just announced that it "saw charge-offs for retail auto loans quadruple in the third quarter". We are also seeing credit card delinquencies start to rise. We certainly aren't at 2008 levels yet, but we are moving in that direction.

#3 Cargo traffic at the Port of Los Angeles just declined to the lowest level that we have seen since the early days of the pandemic. As I noted earlier, economic activity is beginning to slow down all over the nation. One recent survey discovered that 98 percent of corporate CEOs believe that a recession is coming, and those CEOs are behaving accordingly.

#4 Major retailers such as Walmart and Target have been canceling billions of dollars in orders as they seek to cut back inventory levels. In all my years, I have never seen our largest retailers cancel so many orders just prior to the holiday season. Are they expecting the next couple of months to be a total bust?

#5 Existing home sales just fell to a 10 year low. We all knew that the housing market was going to implode once the Federal Reserve started to aggressively raise interest rates, but at this point that implosion is happening faster than most of the experts had anticipated.

#6 U.S. homebuilder sentiment has declined for 10 months in a row. That is a brand new record. I really feel sorry for you if you are a homebuilder or if you work for one. The months ahead are not going to be pleasant for you.

#7 60,000 real estate deals were called off in the month of September alone. I was stunned when I first saw that number. All over the country buyers are realizing that they agreed to pay too much and are feverishly trying to back out of deals while they still can.

#8 Mortgage demand has plunged to the lowest level in 25 years. Things never even got this bad during the downturn of 2008 and 2009. To me, this is a really troubling sign.

#9 Ian Sheperdson, the chief economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, is projecting that home prices could fall 20 percent over the next year. Hopefully that will not happen, but there is also a possibility that they could fall even further than that. We will just have to wait and see how rapidly this new crisis plays out.

#10 U.S. diesel inventories have fallen to the lowest level since 2008. This is something that we will want to watch very carefully, because the U.S. economy runs on diesel.

#11 The core consumer price index has just surged to "the highest level since 1982". Even though the Federal Reserve has been on an insane rate hiking spree, our inflation crisis continues to rage out of control. And as prices continue to soar, our standard of living is being absolutely eviscerated.

#12 A model created by Bloomberg economists Anna Wong and Eliza Winger indicates that there is a 100 percent chance of a recession within the next 12 months. Of course it is entirely possible that their model could be wrong. But without a doubt this is not a good sign.
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C@LAg said:

OverSeas AG said:

Ever notice how @gac06 just says everyone else is wrong, but never explains what he/she believes is right.

Not very hard to do that.
he is a contrarian troller
glad I am not the only one he has done that to.

annoying!
 
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