There's abundant precedent for US government seizure of critical infrastructure during wars or national emergencies. Of course, reasonable compensation must be paid, per the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution. https://t.co/HY0jUMzylr

— David Frum (@davidfrum) October 18, 2022

Do it.

Then Elon can sabotage the system.

**** that guy!!

You didn't build that. /Obama

What war? We're not in a war. Neither is NATO.

See what Al Gore got paid for inventing the internet….

I wonder how Frum would feel if his production was seized.

Oh that's right. He doesn't produce anything worth a damn. He is in the mooching class.

Everything's an emergency to these people.


…so they can take over everything

Kvetch said:

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You didn't build that. /Obama

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What Frum is saying is stupid because he's a broken man.

That said...in Elon's case, given all the govt kickbacks he's received to build his empire there's a slight piece of legitimacy to that Obama statement.

However, I'll never blame someone for taking advantage of poor government policies. It's the gov't who is to blame.

Trump broke Frum

captkirk said:

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Trump broke Frum

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Trump just exposed Frum, Kristol, and the rest for what they always really were.

Citing precedent made by the worst president in American history, prior to Obama/Biden, to steal the fruits of the labors of a free American entrepreneur.

Bull***** "Government isn't the solution to the problem. Government is the problem"……..,.. ………..Ronald Reagan

C@LAg said:

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Frum is a communist neo-con idiot.

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You are being very kind to this chode.

David Frum hasn't even been a neocon in decades. He's a lib.

Just because there's precedent doesn't make something legal. There's precedent for slavery in this country. But the 13th amendment (not to mention the original constitution and various state and federal laws) outlaws that for good. But the precedent part of it has no value.

Precedent as a standard is way overused. Its one thing if its used when the decision could go either way, but to go to it immediately has never made any sense to me, including from day one of law school. Bad decision making in the past shouldn't be repeated. In fact, isn't that what we should have learned from? Besides, we pick and choose when to use it. Why did we use precedent to uphold court cases in certain situations and abandon it in others? Why wasn't Plessy sufficient precedent for Brown? Roe didn't seem to need a precedent when the court wanted to engineer a right to an abortion. I (somewhat) digress.

Frum is also mixing things up. The 5th amendment clause he is referring to applies to takings, which applies to things taken for PUBLIC USE, not things shut down due to government emergencies.

There is no definition of conservative (regardless what prefix you attach to it) that includes anyone attempting to justify their desired actions by invoking the odious Woodrow Wilson.

91AggieLawyer said:

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Just because there's precedent doesn't make something legal. There's precedent for slavery in this country. But the 13th amendment (not to mention the original constitution and various state and federal laws) outlaws that for good. But the precedent part of it has no value.

Precedent as a standard is way overused. Its one thing if its used when the decision could go either way, but to go to it immediately has never made any sense to me, including from day one of law school. Bad decision making in the past shouldn't be repeated. In fact, isn't that what we should have learned from? Besides, we pick and choose when to use it. Why did we use precedent to uphold court cases in certain situations and abandon it in others? Why wasn't Plessy sufficient precedent for Brown? Roe didn't seem to need a precedent when the court wanted to engineer a right to an abortion. I (somewhat) digress.

Frum is also mixing things up. The 5th amendment clause he is referring to applies to takings, which applies to things taken for PUBLIC USE, not things shut down due to government emergencies.

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Very good points. Blue Star for you sir.

And Frum is a marxist POS, lower than whale crap.