Teslag said:
In my experience bronze stars were handed out like candy to basically any major or LT col riding a desk on deployment.
THISTeslag said:
In my experience bronze stars were handed out like candy to basically any major or LT col riding a desk on deployment.
He lost his life in Iraq.Quote:
What Did Beau Biden Do to Earn a Bronze Star???
FrankK said:Spoken like someone who proudly wears the one they have without a 'V'.jagvocate said:
The "my medal is worth more than yours" crowd is the worst.
Damn right, I earned them. Why wouldn't I be proud?FrankK said:Spoken like someone who proudly wears the one they have without a 'V'.jagvocate said:
The "my medal is worth more than yours" crowd is the worst.
FrankK said:Spoken like someone who proudly wears the one they have without a 'V'.jagvocate said:
The "my medal is worth more than yours" crowd is the worst.
Paladin05 said:FrankK said:Spoken like someone who proudly wears the one they have without a 'V'.jagvocate said:
The "my medal is worth more than yours" crowd is the worst.
Should people who deploy in the service of their country not proudly wear the medals they are awarded for that service? What an odd take.
David Happymountain said:
No fan of clan biden but it is poor taste to dance on the grave of a youngish guy that died of brain cancer. He's dead, no need to bring up some worthless medal.
Hold on--- and this is a valid question--Quote:
Mr. Biden has said he believes his son's cancer was caused by exposure to burn pits in Iraq, though the link had not been definitively proven.
Reminds how the purple heart was used after the invasion of Grenada in 1983. It had been so long since a clear-cut triumph of some kind it was really pumped up. At the expense of its standing.Eliminatus said:
The BS issue (heh) has been discussed before on here.
In short, the Bronze is the highest meritorious award you can get. So in todays atmosphere it is tossed around like literal candy. Completely killed any meaning behind it. It is now used as a pat on the head. Most are given out for literally doing the job the gubment is paying you to do. The whole thing has become an absolute joke.
If you do see one in the wild, see if it has a little golden V on it. You can still get the BS for valorous actions and that is what signifies that deviation from the pat on the head. There is still meaning in that one.
So similar to all the medals Milley is wearing compared to Eisenhower phenomena. It seems militaries go through these kind of phases. It happened with the Germans with iron crosses.AgNav93 said:
They give bronze stars (no V device) for doing power point presentations in a combat zone these days. It's really overly inflated.
His father brought it up.David Happymountain said:
No fan of clan biden but it is poor taste to dance on the grave of a youngish guy that died of brain cancer. He's dead, no need to bring up some worthless medal.
UTExan said:Paladin05 said:FrankK said:Spoken like someone who proudly wears the one they have without a 'V'.jagvocate said:
The "my medal is worth more than yours" crowd is the worst.
Should people who deploy in the service of their country not proudly wear the medals they are awarded for that service? What an odd take.
Medal inflation. It was a huge problem during Vietnam with senior officers in particular, who had no shame about receiving medals they did not honestly earn. Goes to integrity and honor expected of commissioned officers.
Remember the whole "swift boat veterans for truth" clash with Kerry in 2004? That became interesting for some of what it revealed about the river actions then. Fascinating stuff. What seemed to emerge was a classic case of exaggerating the heroism, but that some action took place. It has WW II parallels in the "just enough exposure" to be notable but not really getting to the level vets would laud.PA24 said:
John Kerry received 3 Purple Hearts, a bronze star, and a silver star in only a 4 month tour in Nam.
JABQ04 said:
Beau showed up as an officer and did his job = Bronze Star.
Weird the way medals transpired over there but that's the way it works. My 1st deployment every E7 and higher got a BS. E6 and below for the army commendation medal.
ETA my next two deployments the amount of Bronze Stars awarded was drastically reduced. Think only my battery commander and 1SG got them. ARCOMs for everyone else
