Tulsi Gabbard on Rogan podcast today

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Sorry dude. I will never trust her considering her thoughts on gun control.
You mean like this:

She seems so unreasonable.
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She's named as an alumni of the World Economic Forum - Young Global Leaders Program.

That's Klaus Schwab and Soros and al that bunch. Who knows what they are up to.

Lets not forget that Dan Crenshaw is in that group as well.

I've never heard either of them talk about that, and that's something I wish rogan would have brought up.
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aggierogue said:

Nitro Power said:

aggierogue said:

Nitro Power said:

This nonsense about nuclear war is fear mongering. There is zero chance one will ever be used. Every world leader knows it would be the end of the world if a single nuclear warhead was launched. The only country that my do such a thing is Iran to Israel. People need to educate themselves about what a nuclear bomb can do. The smallest nuclear warhead is 10x more powerful than Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
You act like "every world leader" is sane and there's never been madmen leading some of these communist countries.


And yet nothing has ever happened
The fact that you think there is "zero chance" of a nuclear war starting b/c it hasn't happened yet is an interesting, but naive take imo. We have seen madmen throughout history with no regard for human life. They just didn't have the capability to destroy the world yet.
Right. Two points:
1) The objection is fundamentally flawed and silly. No four stack liners had sunk by April 11, 1912. Nine days later it was a different story and the rescue ship with Titanic's survivors had docked.

2) There is also the assumption all the evil is one side. The madmen may also occupy the western side of the Atlanic.



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agsalaska said:

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The totalitarian fascist methodology identity politics Left, vs any that believe in the old ideas of America and the West.
You should read this.

And Im not going to debate it or comment on it because it would be a complete thread derail. But it is a great article.

Spoiler alert, it doesn't really agree or disagree with your comment. Just explains it.

Three ways to despotism
Thanks. You are right.

Wow. What a lengthy and comprehensive diagnosis. Accurate on all points and pretty bleak. I agree with everything it says about both sides trends, even though know the one aligning with, its not out of ignorance of what it may mean. Its one reason why wouldn't entirely mind a break-up --- diluting the totalitarian power for either at the expense of the arrangement may be a better thing for the future.

Anyone even half way concerned with the great clash building --take the time to read his link. But it is not short.

A few previews:

For the rising populism and new Right:


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By rejecting neoliberal dogma, the populist Right has been able to appeal to working-class voters, who are ditching their traditional ties to Democrats in America and to social-democratic parties across Europe. This working-class shift could be accelerated by the adoption of draconian green policiesand the high energy prices they producewhich is already sparking support for right-wing populists, particularly in the eastern reaches of Germany.

In the coming years, ever-stricter environmental controls on households and businesses, and the surge of energy prices and reliability shortfalls, seem likely to spark the kind of grassroots rebellions first seen in the gilets jaunes protests that swept France and received sympathetic support across the populist Right. Some resent seeing the well-to-do advertize their environmental virtue while the policies they recommend impose extraordinarily high energy and housing costs on whole economic sectors.


And they are right to rebel agains that... the only way to avoid is if the elite share the dial down and sacrifice. If they do, they could lead with some credibility again. But have shown they will not.

Regarding the Democrats and Left:

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This shift has occurred as progressives have grown to dominate many of society's most critical institutions such as academia and the media, and have sought to fortify their position with the tools of authoritarianism. This near-total dominance of the cultural heights of Western societies has been marked by increasing political dogmatism, a penchant for censorship, and contempt for those who diverge from their orthodoxies. "The current religion of Western liberals in politics and media," notes writer Glenn Greenwald, "is censorship: their prime weapon of activism."

Universities have been the prime incubators of this shift. Once a bastion of open inquiry, higher education is now defined by ideological homogeneity, particularly among the faculty. This, according to a recent study, has been particularly true at liberal arts colleges, some departments of which have become entirely "Republican-free." The skew is especially acute in fields that most affect public policy and opinion. Well under 10 percent of faculty at leading law schools, such as Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, and Berkeleyinstitutions that graduate many of the nation's leadersdescribe themselves as conservative.


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I agree with everything it says about both sides trends, even though know the one aligning with, its not out of ignorance of what it may mean. Its one reason why wouldn't entirely mind a break-up --- diluting the totalitarian power for either at the expense of the arrangement may be a better thing for the future.
Well put.

It is the best diagnosis of our trajectory that I have read.
The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you never know if they are genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln.



titan
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aggierogue said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Sorry dude. I will never trust her considering her thoughts on gun control.
You mean like this:

She seems so unreasonable.
Damn, that's a stronger statement in favor than many RINOs might be willing to make. Didn't know that she favored the NY ruling that way. Even Clarence Thomas's opinion.

As for the one threatening to kill her years ago and behead-- since this was in Hawaii would hope might somehow end up in Kilauea.
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She has those thoughts on hand guns. Do you trust that she has those same thoughts on ArmaLite rifles?
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HoseMad said:

you dont understand the russian mindset. to them, a world without Russia is not a world worth having. If they feel globohomo is about to win and the new world order is knocking on their front door, they will burn it all.
Where do you get that view of the Russians from? It sounds more like the views of intellectual elites and zealous ideologues just as common on this side as the other of the world. That in fact almost sounds llke what is said of Iran.

Russia has passed this test once before, its worth remembering. When it was an even more atheist toned government.

Assumptions about Putin are one thing (and even they are suspect) but this statement about the Russian mindset is a big question mark.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Didn't Hillary Clinton call Tulsi a 'Russian asset'?

Anybody remember that whole bizarre deal?
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Russia never needs an excuse to do anything. They just bombed a bunch of civilian targets on the pretext that they were retaliating against Ukraine's terrorism.
titan
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

I listened to this today.

I'm not quite sure what's going on with this lady.

I don't have a negative opinion of her. I will say that.

I've listened to the episodes the past two times she's been on the show.

She sounds different in some measurable way.

She sounds spooked. She sounded extremely concerned.

Hard to get a read on her.

I don't know where she's going with this.

The highlight was when they were talking about the two party system and why you can't win as a third party candidate. Joe asked her if she would run as an independent and she said, no. Explained why it would be futile.

She didn't sound like she was going to join the republicans.

That may be what she does, but it didn't sound like it from what she was saying.

Who knows what she up to. Could be anything.

Spooked because really worried about the Russian threat you think? Or maybe more subtle----aware of how wicked our present regime is?

Something else?
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Maybe both. Really weird deal.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:



She sounds spooked. She sounded extremely concerned.


Probably should be. Hillary single-handedly got her black balled from the Presidential run after Tulsi called her out.
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First two times she was on she was in politician mode. Typical fake ass ****. Something scared the **** out of her or shes that good at pretending.

Who knows what she really knows or who she knows, but that was one of the darker Rogan episodes I can remember,
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Buck Turgidson said:

The Russians would have to be completely irrational to do this. What scenario could they be imagining in which initiating a nuclear conflict pays off for them?
You're forgetting the fact that Russians DGAF. Putin is in a really bad spot now. Attempted assassination a month ago. What I'm hearing from my international relations guy who is tied into that circle pretty well is that if Putin goes, Prigozhin would be the guy. Putin is nobody's friend but at least we have had time to learn about the man and have some understanding of what we're dealing with there. Prigozhin is an ultra nationalist so it would be going from bad to worse if that were the case.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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carl spacklers hat said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Russians would have to be completely irrational to do this. What scenario could they be imagining in which initiating a nuclear conflict pays off for them?
You're forgetting the fact that Russians DGAF. Putin is in a really bad spot now. Attempted assassination a month ago. What I'm hearing from my international relations guy who is tied into that circle pretty well is that if Putin goes, Prigozhin would be the guy. Putin is nobody's friend but at least we have had time to learn about the man and have some understanding of what we're dealing with there. Prigozhin is an ultra nationalist so it would be going from bad to worse if that were the case.
You mean that attack that killed Alexander Dugins' daughter was part of a move against Putin?! First have seen of that mentioned.
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titan said:

carl spacklers hat said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Russians would have to be completely irrational to do this. What scenario could they be imagining in which initiating a nuclear conflict pays off for them?
You're forgetting the fact that Russians DGAF. Putin is in a really bad spot now. Attempted assassination a month ago. What I'm hearing from my international relations guy who is tied into that circle pretty well is that if Putin goes, Prigozhin would be the guy. Putin is nobody's friend but at least we have had time to learn about the man and have some understanding of what we're dealing with there. Prigozhin is an ultra nationalist so it would be going from bad to worse if that were the case.
You mean that attack that killed Alexander Dugins' daughter was part of a move against Putin?! First have seen of that mentioned.
No, different event that bombed Putin's limo.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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Prigozhin is an ultra nationalist so it would be going from bad to worse if that were the case.
Outstanding.

Keep that good news coming.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

She's named as an alumni of the World Economic Forum - Young Global Leaders Program.

That's Klaus Schwab and Soros and al that bunch. Who knows what they are up to.

Lets not forget that Dan Crenshaw is in that group as well.

I've never heard either of them talk about that, and that's something I wish rogan would have brought up.
She has openly trashed them. I guess at their direction as part of some conspiratorial operation?
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WEF requires members to trash them in public!! Wake up. Rabble rabble

It's pretty amazing how many people keep pushing the same lies despite being told the truth isn't it?

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Hammerly High Dive Crips said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

She's named as an alumni of the World Economic Forum - Young Global Leaders Program.

That's Klaus Schwab and Soros and al that bunch. Who knows what they are up to.

Lets not forget that Dan Crenshaw is in that group as well.

I've never heard either of them talk about that, and that's something I wish rogan would have brought up.
She has openly trashed them. I guess at their direction as part of some conspiratorial operation?
So you saying it was just a phase.
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carl spacklers hat said:

Buck Turgidson said:

The Russians would have to be completely irrational to do this. What scenario could they be imagining in which initiating a nuclear conflict pays off for them?
You're forgetting the fact that Russians DGAF. Putin is in a really bad spot now. Attempted assassination a month ago. What I'm hearing from my international relations guy who is tied into that circle pretty well is that if Putin goes, Prigozhin would be the guy. Putin is nobody's friend but at least we have had time to learn about the man and have some understanding of what we're dealing with there. Prigozhin is an ultra nationalist so it would be going from bad to worse if that were the case.
Badass. Me too.



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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Hammerly High Dive Crips said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

She's named as an alumni of the World Economic Forum - Young Global Leaders Program.

That's Klaus Schwab and Soros and al that bunch. Who knows what they are up to.

Lets not forget that Dan Crenshaw is in that group as well.

I've never heard either of them talk about that, and that's something I wish rogan would have brought up.
She has openly trashed them. I guess at their direction as part of some conspiratorial operation?
So you saying it was just a phase.
I am saying I don't think Dan Crenshaw is a WEF plant who is tasked with helping them ruin the world...neither is Tulsi. Going to some seminar or summit and being named a "young global leader" doesn't make one an evil conspiratorial operative. Our CEO has WEF ties and has probably sat in on a seminar or two and, even though he's a dbag, isn't part of carrying out their "great reset" plot...at least not knowingly (he does seem on board with some of the ESG/diversity hoopla just about every other corporate exec is...which Tulsi is clearly against).

You think they tasked her with typing this? For what reason? To shake people of their scent? You can learn a lot about a person from long form discussion like JRE, and i am firmly convinced that she is genuine and has integrity and this isn't part of some sinister plot. She is one of the very few honest, upstanding, sane liberals left.

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Yes, that's too genuine. That's the kind of genuine that can't be taken back. It doesn't even matter why it was said. It motivates no less.
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titan said:


Yes, that's too genuine. That's the kind of genuine that can't be taken back. It doesn't even matter why it was said. It motivates no less.
She was very genuine and passionate in her interview with Rogan. No way it's an act. It's one of the best I've heard in some time. She seems to genuinely lament the death of the democrat party she signed up for originally. She is very bright, funny and personable and fun to listen to as well. She seems to despise career politicians and clearly has great disdain for Pelosi, Hillary, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, etc.

While she may be red-pilled in certain areas...I think she has evolved on 2A, for instance...and she is definitely disgusted with the crazy woke BS...she very clearly is left on most issues. Wish people could realize that saying something positive about her is not in any way a political endorsement. Although she'd be better than almost every single democrat currently in office today. She at least loves America and wants to preserve our culture and values.
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Agree. She meets the new minimum requirement: must not be a traitor and must be pro American liberty and exceptionalism.

What is the Rogan link interview by the way?
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titan said:


Agree. She meets the new minimum requirement: must not be a traitor and must be pro American liberty and exceptionalism.

What is the Rogan link interview by the way?
LOL well said. Sad that the bar is that low.

Unfortunately, I think you have to have Spotify account to watch/listen to full interviews.
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No, Crenshaw is very clearly a WEF plant.
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I ain't sayin' she can't come to Jesus.

But I am gonna be watching that offering plate when it go past her.
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