Worst thing the president did during their time in office...

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Raptor
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Fellow TexAgs-ers, I was curious as to what you all believe to be the single most destructive* thing any of the last 6 presidents did during their time in office?

edited to add: To those who respond with actual examples, I use those responses with my classes. I usually word it like, "So I polled a few adults on this question and here is what they said." This helps the students see if their responses are in line with what others are saying, and how the students can see if age (living through the actual presidencies) alters what you think/believe/know about a topic.

In my high school, we were talking about the role of governments a few weeks ago, and the students were all discussing how different governments help and/or hurt their citizens. The students had some good arguments, however a lot of what they were discussing didn't directly affect them one way or another (their discovery).

So, I posed the following prompt to my high school students in Gov't and US History a couple of weeks ago and they have until Friday to formulate a CER (claim, evidence. & reasoning) for Joe Biden and the previous five former presidents. The rubric is a little more wordy, but I'll give you the Cliff's Notes version.

"Every President of the United States has had their great moments and their more forgettable moments. They have each overcome adversity and they have also failed miserably. In this quantitative research project, you will look back at the last six people who have served as President of the United States of America and research what was the single most destructive* thing happened during their presidency that they had complete or majority control over. You will need to identify that defining moment for each president, create a CER, and write a report explaining your cumulative thoughts on how the office of the presidency has negatively affected people."

Rubric:
Remember PEGS!
Written report with no less than 10 sections:
  • Your abstract
  • Opening paragraph
  • 6 body paragraphs (minimum - one for each president, but more are okay)
  • Discoveries (any "A-ha" moments)
  • Summary (any "I wonder" questions)


*for our reports, "destructive" means that the decision/executive order/stance/etc. by the sitting president had a lasting negative effect over a substantial percentage of the population.
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Slicer97
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Joe Biden/Barak Obama: Being born.
tk111
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Given this is a Raptor post, I really don't know what to think right now.
Tanya 93
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My child would say picking Al Gore.

He hates him with fire of a 1000 Suns.






I think the worst thing was Clinton lying about his blow jobs.

Totally changed how Gen X saw the government
Raptor
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tk111 said:

Given this is a Raptor post, I really don't know what to think right now.
To those who respond with actual examples, I use those responses with my classes. I usually word it like, "So I polled a few adults on this question and here is what they said." This helps the students see if their responses are in line with what others are saying, and how the students can see if age (living through the actual presidencies) alters what you think/believe/know about a topic.
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Swing Your Saber
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Joe Biden: Afghanistan withdrawal: millions starving & over 100,000 dead; given a large geographic safe haven to our enemies; gave away a strategically critical location between two of our top geo political enemies.


Obama: Iraq withdrawal, & ISIS. Over two million dead. Otherwise pretty similar.

Bush: Failed execution of post 9/11 operations, failed to fix & destroy Bin Laden; failed to properly account for how to invade Iraq.

Clinton: S&L.
DrEvazanPhD
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Obama - Affordable Care Act and the Student loan act (don't remember the fancy, misleading name for it)

Both proper ****ed our economy
Clob94
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Worst?

Obama's constant lies.

Dumbest?

Clinton not taking out Bin Laden when he had the chance.
Raptor
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Slicer97 said:

Joe Biden/Barak Obama: Being born.
They didn't have control over that. Did you read and understand all of the prompt?
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aggie93
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Not going to do a long form but my list:

Jimmy Carter: Giving up the Panama Canal for no reason
Reagan: Amnesty for illegals in '86
Bush I: Americans with Disabilities Act going WAAAAAAY too far
Clinton: Giving China Most Favored Nation Trade Status
Bush II: Iraq War
Obama: Obamacare
Trump: Appointments (Keeping Comey then replacing with Wray, Sessions, keeping Fauci and Birx)
Rapier108
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I'm not writing out a thesis.

Reagan- Gun control and amnesty
Bush 41- Raised taxes, thus ensuring Clinton
Clinton- Didn't take out Osama when he had the chance (Republican Congress kept him in check on domestic issues)
Bush 43- Creating DHS/TSA
Obama- Impossible to list just 1 thing because there are countless things he did, all equality bad for their own reasons
Trump- Spent money like a drunken sailor
Biden- See Obama
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
wbt5845
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Bush nominating David Souter to SCOTUS.

Clinton sexually harrassing a work subordinate.

GWB backing the Patriot Act

Obamacare

Trump going along with the COVID lockdown

Biden breathing.
Slicer97
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Raptor said:

Slicer97 said:

Joe Biden/Barak Obama: Being born.
They didn't have control over that. Did you read and understand all of the prompt?

Seemed like too much effort to go to for an F16 post. Short, sweet, and honest is usually best here.
FriscoKid
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Joe Biden's worst mistake so far has been the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Leaving behind 80 billion in US arms that were quickly secured by people that want us dead and getting 13 service members killed at the airport. All of the US soldiers that fought and died in that war ended up accomplishing nothing.

Donald Trump's worst moment was not gutting the letter agencies in DC (Especially the FBI).

BHO was probably encouraging the Arab Spring

Bush Jr was starting the DHS and TSA after 9/11

Clinton was opening the trade doors wide open to communist China

Bush Sr was puking on the Japanese PM (Or raising taxes and turning his back on the what Reagan had started)


I'm not formatting it the way that you requested because I'm not your student.



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IndividualFreedom
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Easy, all the POTUS that signed to spend money outside of Constitutional and budgeted spending.
tk111
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Raptor said:

tk111 said:

Given this is a Raptor post, I really don't know what to think right now.
To those who respond with actual examples, I use those responses with my classes. I usually word it like, "So I polled a few adults on this question and here is what they said." This helps the students see if their responses are in line with what others are saying, and how the students can see if age (living through the actual presidencies) alters what you think/believe/know about a topic.
Heh well I wish I had time to dig through the history of the 6 and give you a write up, because it is an interesting assignment. I was only old enough to have any meaningful exposure to the news starting with Clinton.

Live during Clinton's presidency it was the bj's, constant monica lewinski stuff, and to a lesser degree, the murder scandals. But by about 2009 I knew the most influential moment in his presidency was actually when he came out and said "Every American should be able to own their own house" and then started coaxing banks into lending indiscriminately ...holy hell did no one had any idea what a s**tstorm that was going to create.

Bush - Lots of stuff that sounded right at the time; the war on terror post 9/11, no child left behind...
BQ_90
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LBJ lying to Congress and the people about Vietnam, frankly he should be impeached for it, I don't care that he's dead. It's said how much of that time is covered up.
Not Coach Jimbo
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Obama weaponizing the irs against political/religious groups.

Or

Obama using rhetoric like bitter clingers or the Ferguson/brown situation to further divide the country. He had an excellent opportunity to try and bring us together as the first black president, he instead tried to push racism narrative while sitting in the highest office in the world.
AgNav93
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Obama by far. Weaponizing the DoJ and IRS to go after the opposition. A real third world move that has destroyed the rule of law and made just another **** hole country.
TresPuertas
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Biden: Everything, but mass inflation and ruin of the economy.

Trump: Didn't expose the Hoax that was Covid enough. Thats all I got.

Obama: Complete dismemberment of political respect among parties. Worst president by far. Stoked hate and division with his rhetoric., We have never recovered from this. and before "bUT MUh TrUMP does it too..." Trump is a result of Obama. Hes a sympton, not the disease.

Bush: Patriot Act. Not even close

Clinton: Allowance of ACORN and softening of credit qualifications in mortgage lending. THIS ALL HAPPENED WITH CLINTON FIRST.
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Biden: Attacking domestic fossil fuels with a possessed sense of tyranny in an economy on the verge of recovery to put the breaks on production and logistics in the face of great spending = inflation. Great divider socially catering to 5% of extremists and vilifying 49%.

Trump: Overestimating Covid's ability to damage the economy and dumping money into massive spending acts that let heavy handed autocratic states off the hook for the economic damage of their decisions while other states prospered with few adverse impacts. He was hardly alone in these assessments, but it will be hard not to look back and see it all as a massive overreaction that gave the takers an upper hand they may never give up to the providers.

Obama: Sleeping on China's international expansion and Russia's aggression. Maybe not sleeping, but unable to effectively confront. Obamacare big steps in socialism with little payoff. That pretty much describes his 8 years. I may be kind here because I expected little and think it could have been worse.

Bush 2: Invading Iraq. TARP - too big to fail. Horrible wealth transfers that undercut conservatives for decades.

Clinton: NAFTA was fine in principle, poor in execution. Tried to nationalize healthcare and failed. Scandal and a Republican Congress mitigated a lot of his ability to make catastrophic mistakes. Adding in home lending revisions after reading above - that was huge.

Bush 1: Davis Souter. Yes new taxes.
coolerguy12
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Brandon - doubt he has done the worst yet, but withdraw from Afghanistan so far.
Trump - allowing the Covid mob to take over. Not firing fauci
Obama - ACA
Bush - TSA
Manhattan
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Trump: tossup between letting Baradar and 5000 Taliban out of prison and overall handling of COVID.

Bush: squandering swell of patriotism and global support for the US after 9/11 by invading Iraq.

Obama: tossup between tan suit and Dijon mustard.
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Reagan: amnesty
GHWB: ADA
Clinton: Mortgage fraud
GWB: Patriot act. Complete garbage, and is the birth of the brownshirts we have today
Obama: Fast and Furious. WTF?
Trump: Bill Barr
Biden: Letting the FBI run wild. F'n Brownshirts.
Ags4DaWin
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Bush 2: Patriot Act that led way for fake FISA warrants, spying on Americans, and the WMD falsification

Clinton: Starting the selling of American secrets and tech to China and foreign powers. Created conditions that allowed the Housing collapse.

Obama: weaponization of all law enforcement and beaurocratic agencies against political and ideological opponents. Undermining of the military and introducing anti-American woke culture into the military and purging traditional leadership. Intentionally further fomenting and encouraging racial division via Marxist statements and policies. Fast and Furious. Eric ****ing Holder. Obamacare

Trump- mean tweets. Not clamping down on BLM. Not purging the FBI. Allowing the initial shutdown of the country.

Biden- HE hasn't done anything. His handlers- doing nothing to deter Putin. Furthering inflation by printing money like crazy. Furthering the weaponization and buildup of government agencies to persecute political opponents. Tanking the economy. Encouraging ESG in business. Disorganized withdrawal from Afghanistan. Continuation of all the ****ty Obama era policies.
strbrst777
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LBJ was not one of the last sixth; he was the tenth going back. He and Secy of Defense Robert McNamara of Ford "managed" the Viet Nam war and failed miserably. If that was not the worst, The Great Society was.
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Manhattan said:

Trump: tossup between letting Baradar and 5000 Taliban out of prison and overall handling of COVID.

Bush: squandering swell of patriotism and global support for the US after 9/11 by invading Iraq.

Obama: tossup between tan suit and Dijon mustard.

Even on a thread like this you troll. Do you see a pattern with the other responses???? Criticism of both R's and D's in office. You? You can't do it.
coolerguy12
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Just flag it for trolling and move on
TexAgs91
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Obama: Using his office and weaponizing agencies against the next president.

His people in the deep state continued attacking Trump throughout his term and then executed a Color Revolution to steal a presidential election. The end of free and fair elections effectively ended America as we know it.

It's quite possible Obama has a major say in Biden's braindead administration*
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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LMCane
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George W Bush

land invasion of Iraq rather than an air campaign to demolish their WMD and the Iranian WMD right after that. also not building a wall or trying to fix social security.

Obama: Iran nuclear appeasement sellout deal JCPOA

Biden: spending trillions in debt

Trump: being the worst politician in US history (his policies were excellent, but he demolished his administration through his own stupid decisions and actions)
Get Off My Lawn
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My memory is crap, so I'm sure I'll miss bigger stuff here, but…

Biden: continuing to draw breath. He is merely a Trojan horse for anti-constitutional actors, and his continued participation as such continues the downward trajectory.
Trump: allowing Faucci to become the face of pandemic response.
Obama: his agenda to "fundamentally transform" the country. (Although on a personal note - his delayed drawdown in Afghanistan wasted the lives of a personal friend along with dozens of others just so that he could time it for the 2012 election, and I'll never get past that.)
W: Either holding the Marines back when Osama Bin Laden was cornered in the snow in the mountains, or compromising with lefties to pass No Child Left Behind. Or the Patriot Act. Invading Iraq also sucked.
Clinton: The worst thing he did was clearly Hillary. Outside of that, Federal Student Loans, and the ban of Sami-automatic rifles were also pretty consequential bad things.
HW: reneging on "no new taxes"
Line Ate Member
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Clinton: China shenanigans

Bush: patriot act and the No Child Left Behind Act (that crippled schools)

Obama: Obamacare, fast and furious, Iran deal, climate accord, pallets of cash for everyone, sending Biden overseas to places where his influence could be bought, selling our uranium to Russia, Bendazi

Trump: deficit spending (but it is the government so that is what it does unfortunately), Recognizing Rhinos from Patriots (Grennel and pompeo should have been higher in the cabinet from day 1)

Biden: war on oil, inflation, syltudwnt loan forgiveness, being a general asshat, Afghan withdrawal
Ags77
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Clinton... misconduct with a subordinate
Bush 43... Iraq
Obama... partisanship, not delivering on working with Rep
Trump... covid shutdowns but more for what happened after he was defeated.
Biden... hard to pick just one but, maybe energy policy in general
Gigem
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Not Coach Jimbo said:

Obama weaponizing the irs against political/religious groups.

Or

Obama using rhetoric like bitter clingers or the Ferguson/brown situation to further divide the country. He had an excellent opportunity to try and bring us together as the first black president, he instead tried to push racism narrative while sitting in the highest office in the world.
Agree 100 percent.
EclipseAg
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Also, Obama's historic election drove the media and entertainment industry to rip off any remaining veil of fairness and become 100 percent cheerleaders. There's no going back now.

One small example: The difference between how Michelle Obama was portrayed and Melania Trump was ignored would be laughable if it wasn't so disturbing.
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