FBI and DOJ doing their thing-stole 86 million from safe deposit boxes in LA

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aggiehawg
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The privacy invasion was vast when FBI agents drilled and pried their way into 1,400 safe-deposit boxes at the U.S. Private Vaults store in Beverly Hills.

They rummaged through personal belongings of a jazz saxophone player, an interior designer, a retired doctor, a flooring contractor, two Century City lawyers and hundreds of others.

Agents took photos and videos of pay stubs, password lists, credit cards, a prenuptial agreement, immigration and vaccination records, bank statements, heirlooms and a will, court records show. In one box, agents found cremated human remains.
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Eighteen months later, newly unsealed court documents show that the FBI and U.S. attorney's office in Los Angeles got their warrant for that raid by misleading the judge who approved it.

They omitted from their warrant request a central part of the FBI's plan: Permanent confiscation of everything inside every box containing at least $5,000 in cash or goods, a senior FBI agent recently testified.

The FBI's justification for the dragnet forfeiture was its presumption that hundreds of unknown box holders were all storing assets somehow tied to unknown crimes, court records show.

It took five days for scores of agents to fill their evidence bags with the bounty: More than $86 million in cash and a bonanza of gold, silver, rare coins, gem-studded jewelry and enough Rolex and Cartier watches to stock a boutique.

The U.S. attorney's office has tried to block public disclosure of court papers that laid bare the government's deception, but a judge rejected its request to keep them under seal.

The failure to disclose the confiscation plan in the warrant request came to light in FBI documents and depositions of agents in a class-action lawsuit by box holders who say the raid violated their rights.

The court filings also show that federal agents defied restrictions that U.S. Magistrate Judge Steve Kim set in the warrant by searching through box holders' belongings for evidence of crimes.

"The government did not know what was in those boxes, who owned them, or what, if anything, those people had done," Robert Frommer, a lawyer who represents nearly 400 box holders in the class-action case, wrote in court papers.

"That's why the warrant application did not even attempt to argue there was probable cause to seize and forfeit box renters' property."
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TexAgs91
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"18 months later, newly unsealed court documents show that the FBI and U.S. attorney's office in Los Angeles got their warrant for that raid by misleading the judge who approved it."

That seem to be standard operating procedure for the FBI
HarryJ33tamu
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Has anyone been fired over this? No? I'm shocked.

The FBI is full of disgusting human beings. Zero morals.
Maroon Dawn
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Organized Crime that is given legal immunity as long as they agree to be the Dems jackboot thug enforcers on the side
combat wombat™
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The planned to keep the contents of any box with contents valued at $5k or more. The assumption being that the value of the contents alone was evidence of criminal activity? How are these people still working? This is criminal, clearly unconstitutional.
aggiehawg
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Also in the raid of Mar a Lago, they seized 1800 "items" meaning they were not documents, since the documents were listed separately and numbered at 11,000.

Where was that specified in the warrant?
bmks270
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Criminal.
Those behind this should be put in jail.
bmks270
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Sadly I doubt many of the items are ever returned.
BD88
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We are no different than China or Russia. Only going to get worse.

But keep voting for these ****ers in office.
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
Buck Turgidson
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The FBI is simply a government supported crime family. They murder and steal with impunity. They have to go or nobody in this country will really be safe.
titan
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Bongino's FBI whistleblower did say he had stopped speaking with some other FBI friends over the Mar-al-lago and other trends. They argued about the support for tyranny of the Biden admin. Apparently there are an increasing number of bad apples, not just the top.
Owlagdad
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Guess that is why they make thugs out of accountants and lawyers. They will look the other way so they can finally be bad ass.
FDA just as crooked . Will cancel new promising drug if it competes with big Pharma and FDA falls in line so 45 year old retirees can get job with big Pharma.
They sell us and their soul for couple hundred thousand bucks.
APHIS AG
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titan said:


Bongino's FBI whistleblower did say he had stopped speaking with some other FBI friends over the Mar-al-lago and other trends. They argued about the support for tyranny of the Biden admin. Apparently there are an increasing number of bad apples, not just the top.
When you become an enforcer for the ones in power, you have the ability to do anything you want with the protection of the tyrant.

This is why the FBI are now recruiting criminals and lowlifes to do Biden's and the Democrats bidding.

The are no longer a law enforcement agency.
pacecar02
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The watchmen are corrupt

Some of them are probably good agents who don't know they are being used.

More are probably willing
aezmvp
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If I was the judge I'd be referring people to the Bar and initiating all kinds of sanctions or absolutely wrecking shop on any warrants or cases in my court. Flat out they would not be getting any leeway at all.
Trajan88
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This is state-sponsored theft.

Don't care the judge was lied to. Impeach the judge and fire/prosecute all others involved.

No excuse for this

People need to be held accountable.
coconutED
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Trajan88 said:

Don't care the judge was lied to. Impeach the judge
Wholeheartedly agree. It sounds like the judge is trying to cover his own ass. No justification, true or not, can possibly warrant this sort of unlimited blanket search of private property.
aggiehawg
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When you don't know who even owns the box, it is not a valid warrant. EVER.
EX TEXASEX
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Sorry, I am a little confused about the article you posted. Which FBI field office was it ? Was it the local field office out of L.A. The Lucchese Office ? Or was it the Bonanno Field Office out of Miami that raided Presidents Trumps Office or was it done by the Genovese Main Office out of D.C.?? TIA

#FJB
aggiehawg
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EX TEXASEX said:

Sorry, I am a little confused about the article you posted. Which FBI field office was it ? Was it the local field office out of L.A. The Lucchese Office ? Or was it the Bonanno Field Office out of Miami that raided Presidents Trumps Office or was it done by the Genovese Main Office out of D.C.?? TIA

LA Times. Care to make a guess?

Since you are that confused. LA stands for Los Angeles, as in California, not Louisiana.

HTH.
EX TEXASEX
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So the Lucchese Field office. Got it !!!

Also, I think you are not following my line of posting .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Families
#FJB
titan
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This is why the FBI are now recruiting criminals and lowlifes to do Biden's and the Democrats bidding.
What does this refer to? Some change mentioned?
BusterAg
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This is the kind of stuff that starts aggression towards the government.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of the people that carried out this thing get popped.
ABATTBQ11
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aggiehawg said:

When you don't know who even owns the box, it is not a valid warrant. EVER.


Warrants weren't for the contents, but the boxes themselves and the business holding the boxes. The FBI sold it to the judge as, "We need to open the boxes to verify ownership of the contents." That was a lie as they had been planning for several weeks on how to get into the boxes.
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combat wombat said:

The planned to keep the contents of any box with contents valued at $5k or more. The assumption being that the value of the contents alone was evidence of criminal activity? How are these people still working? This is criminal, clearly unconstitutional.

you think democrats care about the constitution?
And the FBI is just that, the militia arm of the pedos that form the Democrat party
Pookers
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BusterAg said:

This is the kind of stuff that starts aggression towards the government.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of the people that carried out this thing get popped.
This could very well be what the government actually wants.
oldarmyjess66
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They always say "the rank and file FBI agents are honest people."
I'm sorry to say I don't believe it.
If they were "honorable people" they would speak out against their corrupt leaders. They are all a sorry lot.
TheEternalPessimist
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Has anyone been fired over this? No? I'm shocked.

The FBI is full of disgusting human beings. Zero morals.
Anyone that works for the FBI should either

A) Quit

B) Become a mole and reveal the corruption from the inside.
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"The Kingdom is for HE that can TAKE IT!" - Alexander
Houstonag
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Study the Brown shirts in Germany in the 20s which was the vehicle used for the rise of Hitler. The FBI is equivalent to the Brown shirts and is being used by the Democrat party to control dissent. Thank you milquetoast white guilt voters in America for your liberal vote. Your life is now changed forever.
Aggie Jurist
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When you don't know who even owns the box, it is not a valid warrant. EVER.
The warrant wasn't even for the boxes, but the frames - the structures holding the boxes. The judge is an idiot if he didn't understand that the boxes had to be confiscated b/c with the frames seized, there wasn't anything to hold the boxes - they have to be seized for 'safekeeping'.

The FBI and the US Attorney were too cute by half, but the judge was a willing rube.

And of course, nobody will be disciplined and the taxpayers will pay. Civil asset forfeiture has got to go.
LGB
gonemaroon
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Anyone know what they were looking for? Why they decided on Beverly Hills? Why they took everything for every box?

I don't get it
SociallyConditionedAg
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This is why I don't use bank deposit boxes. This isn't the first time this has happened, and it won't be the last.

This needs to end, followed by civil asset forfeiture.
LMCane
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gonemaroon said:

Anyone know what they were looking for? Why they decided on Beverly Hills? Why they took everything for every box?

I don't get it
I'm going out on a limb here...

maybe because THAT is where the money is?
MouthBQ98
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So, when the FBI itself is actually engaged in an organized criminal conspiracy, who does the investigation and brings the prosecution?
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