https://www.wsj.com/articles/education-schools-have-long-been-mediocre-now-theyre-woke-too-teachers-college-ideological-manipulation-propaganda-11660925293

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My program was batty. We made Black Lives Matter friendship bracelets. We passed around a popsicle stick to designate whose turn it was to talk while professors compelled us to discuss our life's traumas. We read poems through the "lenses" of Marxism and critical race theory in preparation for our students doing the same. Our final projects were acrostic poems or ironic rap videos.

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On the syllabi, noticeably lacking are academic literature or manuals of classroom instruction. Instead, Hollywood movies like "Freedom Writers," popular books like Jonathan Kozol's "Letters to a Young Teacher," and propaganda like "Anti-Racist Baby" abound. In place of academic essays, graduate students write personal poems or collect photographs. These kitschy activities infantilize what ought to be a rigorous pursuit of professional competency.

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If there's practical training involved, it's likely to be about how to discuss LGBTQ+ issues with 3-year-olds. The same philosophy encourages "action civics." Rather than teaching a straightforward history curriculum, educators are expected to encourage their students to advocate social change.

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Good grief. Social sciences are lost. Liberal arts are truly lib. And education degrees suck more than ever.

Viruses exist to infect healthy cells and trick them into making more virus

20 Years or so ago, when my wife got a masters in instruction at A&M, she learned about stuff like the difference between auditory vs visual learners, how to get the most impact out of science labs, teaching good writing, adhd and current treatment practices for it, cultural differences and learning impacts of them, etc. A lot of useful stuff.

Maroon Dawn said:

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Viruses exist to infect healthy cells and trick them into making more virus

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Wow. What a sinister analogy. Never thought of it that way, but that's exactly how the ComIntern has used education.

Mike Judge with more truth:

Same garbage being taught in the masters program at A&M.

The Curriculum and Instruction program at A&M was a complete waste of time. I probably took 2 courses worth my while (evaluating instructional materials and mentor teacher).

The curriculum design course was all social justice. Not a single thing about manipulatives, different learners, or anything about actual content. I watched a movie about a boy who wanted to be a girl, a movie about a white kid who needed to learn about oppression, and then read a book about the struggle of inner city schools because of systemic racism.

This was before covid and all the riots, so I'm sure it's way worse now.

It's a religious cult.

I'd they want to do that, fine, but as a religious ideology it does not belong in a taxpayer funded academic institution,

My freshman history course at A&M in 1992 was similar. That's 30 years ago for the non-mathologists. I think it was supposed to be the Revolutionary War through the Civil War or something like that.

Wish I could remember profs name but there was no syllabus. Our assignment for the semester was to read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and then we took one test at end of semester. Each class was spent listening to him rail on Bush I and republicans. He was supposedly at Kent State during that dust up so he would talk about hippie Purple Heart he got out of that.

I stopped going and got a D in the class because of attendance and not giving a damn about his worthless book and test.

my wife is getting a degree from Arkansas state, master of education (administrative track). She's about halfway through (15 hours or so). Zero wokeness so far.

I did notice that my sons new 2nd grade teacher had A Stacy Abrams kids book on the top of her shelf.

BadMoonRisin said:

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I did notice that my sons new 2nd grade teacher had A Stacy Abrams kids book on the top of her shelf.

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Run far far away!

harge57 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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I did notice that my sons new 2nd grade teacher had A Stacy Abrams kids book on the top of her shelf.

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Run far far away!

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After taking the book from the classroom….

BusterAg said:

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20 Years or so ago, when my wife got a masters in instruction at A&M, she learned about stuff like the difference between auditory vs visual learners, how to get the most impact out of science labs, teaching good writing, adhd and current treatment practices for it, cultural differences and learning impacts of them, etc. A lot of useful stuff.

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About 10 years ago, my wife attended SHSU for teaching and learned all of that during her undergrad.

Many education grad classes, if not whole programs, are jokes based off my experience at in grad school.

Some are good and there can be some value, but too many fluff PhDs have made it through and now they teach.

Plus universities are more than happy to expand these kind of cash crop programs.

Did you have Livesay?

The Chicken Ranch said:

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Did you have Livesay?

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For the life of me, I can't remember his name. He was morbidly obese and had some kind of growth on his stomach on top of his fatness that you could see jutting out through his shirt. He was obviously tenured or he wouldn't have been able to hijack a course like that and turn it into a leftist dogma training course.

Yup. That was him. I had him also. It was a class you just "had to get through."

My other American History professor taught first half American History from the Southern Perspective. I really enjoyed this class. I doubt that would be allowed anymore.

The Chicken Ranch said:

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Yup. That was him. I had him also. It was a class you just "had to get through."

My other American History professor taught first half American History from the Southern Perspective. I really enjoyed this class. I doubt that would be allowed anymore.

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Yeah, well I didn't with my D. I guess it was kind of entertaining listening to him debate the pros and cons between the Mustang and Camaro in between cussing Bush I. I guess.

I am finishing my degree in 15 weeks. I have seen none of this in my educational leadership program (Lamar). My program is about being a collaborative leader who listens to their community and understands the importance of two way communication, data driven instruction, and dealing with root cause issues.

Yes, there were many courses that I did not learn a lot from but that is partly because I am in a great school district with 17 years experience leading others and doing everything on my campus.

I got my Master's in Curriculum and Instruction from KU in 2007. I had one good professor that actually taught educational theory and made us read actual educational books. The rest of it was a joke, a bunch of touchy feely crap with a heavy emphasis on how to deal with (not teach) minority students. I had one professor that told us that black people operate on their own time schedule and urban schools should do away with tardies. Yep, let's teach them that they can just show up to class whenever they want without any consequences. This was a white woman of course.

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I got my Master's in Curriculum and Instruction from KU in 2007. I had one good professor that actually taught educational theory and made us read actual educational books. The rest of it was a joke, a bunch of touchy feely crap with a heavy emphasis on how to deal with (not teach) minority students. I had one professor that told us that black people operate on their own time schedule and urban schools should do away with tardies. Yep, let's teach them that they can just show up to class whenever they want without any consequences. This was a white woman of course.

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All of Africa is that way--

We called it "Angola time"...... If a meeting was scheduled to start at 2pm- get ready to wait a good 45 minutes to get started. Then of course there was a good half hour of placations and niceties and idle chit chat about family, then finally you got down to business.

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My freshman history course at A&M in 1992 was similar. That's 30 years ago for the non-mathologists. I think it was supposed to be the Revolutionary War through the Civil War or something like that.

Wish I could remember profs name but there was no syllabus. Our assignment for the semester was to read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and then we took one test at end of semester. Each class was spent listening to him rail on Bush I and republicans. He was supposedly at Kent State during that dust up so he would talk about hippie Purple Heart he got out of that.

I stopped going and got a D in the class because of attendance and not giving a damn about his worthless book and test.

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Was it Livesay? This experience sounds familiar, and I think he was the prof.

My husband had a graduate degree in education. When he was it the program, I remember asking him what classes he was registered for in a given semester. He'd reply with "Social Justice IV" or the like. It didn't matter the actual title of the course, it was all social justice.

Anything non-STEM should not be funded as a masters or doctorate program. Heck a 2 year associate degree could suffice. I laugh when I see master of education or master of communication degrees

The Chicken Ranch said:

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Yup. That was him. I had him also. It was a class you just "had to get through."

My other American History professor taught first half American History from the Southern Perspective. I really enjoyed this class. I doubt that would be allowed anymore.

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That might have been Calvert. He was a gem.

BetsyParker said:

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YouBet said:

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My freshman history course at A&M in 1992 was similar. That's 30 years ago for the non-mathologists. I think it was supposed to be the Revolutionary War through the Civil War or something like that.

Wish I could remember profs name but there was no syllabus. Our assignment for the semester was to read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and then we took one test at end of semester. Each class was spent listening to him rail on Bush I and republicans. He was supposedly at Kent State during that dust up so he would talk about hippie Purple Heart he got out of that.

I stopped going and got a D in the class because of attendance and not giving a damn about his worthless book and test.

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Was it Livesay? This experience sounds familiar, and I think he was the prof.

My husband had a graduate degree in education. When he was it the program, I remember asking him what classes he was registered for in a given semester. He'd reply with "Social Justice IV" or the like. It didn't matter the actual title of the course, it was all social justice.

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Sounds like Chicken Ranch confirms it was Livesay.