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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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No one ****ing says these except leftists ******s because they are the only ones dumb enough to believe it.

Here's your sign.

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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Well, since you are using the word "literally" I guess we have to listen.


Guess what, we entered into fascism via Biden due to idiots throwing away their vote.....and you admit being one of the idiots.

DarkBrandon0111 said:

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Trump started a trend of casting doubt on every election republicans lose with no proof. If people don't believe in democracy, there will be chaos. That's what trump wants.

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https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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He literally didn't. We know the election was stolen. Plain and simple. There is more than enough evidence to show it. He didn't do anything of the kind at all.

The only people showing any kind of fascism have been the Democrats every ****ing time especially in the last five years. Trump fought for our freedom's.

Left will have you believe that the BLM and antifa riots were okay but J6 was not.

These things that you are listing literally never happened. Trump worked his ass off to make America better for its citizens. We were in the best shape we have been in in decades and you sit here and you push this bull**** out over and over

You don't have to like the man but lying about it doesn't do you any favors.

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IMO, I assume it is simply the way the December 2020 and January 2021 behavior looked like, and then Jan 6 just as it happens, does look reckless and unpredictable, and even dangerous. IF you are sold that what we saw happen in 2019-2020 passes the smell test. Those Jan 6 demonstrators simply didn't think it did.

So granting you have cause from Jan 2021 to think that perhaps, let it be asked---what have you to say about having unelected people run the Executive Branch? This shadow government stuff? Isn't it clear that Biden and Kamala are not formulating policy?

Does it not bother you that the government may well be being directed from overseas for all we know?

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Yes this is a concern. (I'm not concerned with overseas) but I am concerned that "staffers" are running the place.

The mid terms can't get here quick enough, and I hope we have a good principled mentally stable Conservative candidate in 2024, maybe DeSantis.

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Okay. That makes sense--- "Staffers" and so since its pretty clear how stupid and totally economically illeterate Left college and staffer types can be it should be avery alarming even if it is only a bunch of Left wing staffers crafting GND and threatening the economy and trying to impose deranged school agendas.

But you maybe onto something --- the Biden Admin does resemble nothing else in the world quite as much as it does resemble a dysfunctional hard Left Ivy league campus crowd running things.

Okay.

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Yes Titan, all of this.

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I have said many times that here, that while I am a libertarian leaning conservative, I didn't and won't vote for Trump. I think he is a threat to our democracy. I've been given hell for that by Trump supporters and that is fine.

But as to this raid, unless they found a dead body in that safe with Trumps finger prints around its neck, it is just as bad and just as destabilizing. It's an egregious abuse of power and will have long term implications. Even longer that Jan 6.

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I'm trying to understand your view here. Are you saying that you don't believe a former president should be investigated for crimes, unless the crime in question is murder?

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There is a difference between investigate and a "raid".

Also you need to up your metaphor game.

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At some point, an investigation will lead to the collection of evidence through the execution of a search warrant, which is what happened here. You seem to be saying that unless law enforcement executes a search warrant (or a "raid" as you call it) in order to recover evidence of murder, then any search warrant executed on a former president is "destabilizing" and an "egregious abuse of power."

And - what "metaphor game"? You were the one that said "unless they found a dead body in that safe with Trumps finger prints around its neck." I asked you to clarify. Do you mean that former presidents shouldn't be investigated for anything except murder?

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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Even if you believe this to be true, the fact that he was not even close to being successful would make him NOT A THREAT, wouldn't it?

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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l i t e r a l l y

still waiting. Might be doing a little frantic "research" to come with a rationale. If you make claims like this, you should probably have a modicum of backup for them without having to run to reddit and ask for help on some potential specifics.

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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I appreciate you answering.

I'm sure if you consider that a threat to our democracy then you feel the same about the current administration as well. If that's the case, then we can likely agree that politicians on both sides are corrupt people.

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. Yes this is the point of the OP.

And Biden is not a threat? Wow!

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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LOL

I literally laughed out loud at this.

Turn off the ****ing tv, dude. They've got you.

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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l i t e r a l l y

still waiting. Might be doing a little frantic "research" to come with a rationale. If you make claims like this, you should probably have a modicum of backup for them without having to run to reddit and ask for help on some potential specifics.

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Please tell me your holding your breath too. I don't respond to election truthers lol.

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It flags one as a ******.

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EOT on the threat to democracy comment.

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I have said many times that here, that while I am a libertarian leaning conservative, I didn't and won't vote for Trump. I think he is a threat to our democracy. I've been given hell for that by Trump supporters and that is fine.

But as to this raid, unless they found a dead body in that safe with Trumps finger prints around its neck, it is just as bad and just as destabilizing. It's an egregious abuse of power and will have long term implications. Even longer that Jan 6.

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Tired of hearing "Ohh that's wrong" and "that's not right" from people who enable Democrats and refuse to oppose them in any meaningful way

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I'm not a Trump supporter in the least. He was "meh!" as Prez, but way better than Biden is or Clinton would have been. This idea that he was/is a threat to "democracy" is blowing spit bubbles level of stupid.

But yes, the raid was egregious and desperate.

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Rob, you always make these claims that your no Trump fan and a libertarian…but from most of your responses, it seems like you kiss the F16 narrative ring more often than not. I guess for some it's just easier not to rock the boat here and suffer all the ad homs that would follow.

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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l i t e r a l l y

still waiting. Might be doing a little frantic "research" to come with a rationale. If you make claims like this, you should probably have a modicum of backup for them without having to run to reddit and ask for help on some potential specifics.

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Please tell me your holding your breath too. I don't respond to election truthers lol.

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wtf does this even mean "lol" ????????

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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How did he "literally" try to over throw our processes?

Did he have state judges change election rules last minute?

Did he weaponize Fed agencies to target and persecute political opponents?.

Did he have the media and tech companies suppress harmful stories about him or his family leading up to an election?

Last I checked, those all happened, but not by Trump.

As usual, libs accuse others of what they are actually doing.

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Trump is a wheel grabber. He also throws ketchup on the wall. You want four more years of that?

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Well he can get his coat on by himself, not shat himself in pubic and for the most part is artculate and coherent. lastly, my 401k was up 38% until he left office.

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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You know I know how you don't understand what you're talking about?

Your use of "threat to democracy" "overthrow our processes" and "fascism"



The scariest thing about tyranny is how few people recognize it.

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"Threat to democracy" is such a throwaway line to make yourself think you sound smart.

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So smart that the point that this nation is a representative republic just goes right over their heads.

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I have said many times that here, that while I am a libertarian leaning conservative, I didn't and won't vote for Trump. I think he is a threat to our democracy. I've been given hell for that by Trump supporters and that is fine.

But as to this raid, unless they found a dead body in that safe with Trumps finger prints around its neck, it is just as bad and just as destabilizing. It's an egregious abuse of power and will have long term implications. Even longer that Jan 6.

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Do you honestly believe that Trump is the one that is the threat to our democracy? Read your second paragraph again before answering.

Edit: "show me on this picture of democracy where President Trump has hurt you."

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Trump is a wheel grabber. He also throws ketchup on the wall. You want four more years of that?

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I think this board would settle with 4 days without your "let me have it both ways" commentary.

You have bad TDS, to the point you voted for Biden, then dare try and say you made a mistake but then continue to bash Trump and his supporters?

I trust Fauci more than your posts.

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I think he is a threat to our democracy.

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Not trying to argue with you, but genuinely curious as to why you feel this way. I have friends that think the same and will not explain why.

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Because psychologically he is so full of himself that he will do anything to get what he wants. Whether it is best for this country or not. He has shown this many times including and most dramatically at the end of the last election. He literally tried to over throw our processes. If he would have been successful our government as we know it would have ended there and we would have entered into fascism.

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You know I know how you don't understand what you're talking about?

Your use of "threat to democracy" "overthrow our processes" and "fascism"



The scariest thing about tyranny is how few people recognize it.

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Here's where OP gets his news:

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aggrad02 said:

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I have said many times that here, that while I am a libertarian leaning conservative, I didn't and won't vote for Trump. I think he is a threat to our democracy. I've been given hell for that by Trump supporters and that is fine.

But as to this raid, unless they found a dead body in that safe with Trumps finger prints around its neck, it is just as bad and just as destabilizing. It's an egregious abuse of power and will have long term implications. Even longer that Jan 6.

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Do you honestly believe that Trump is the one that is the threat to our democracy? Read your second paragraph again before answering.

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You do understand that both of those paragraphs are independent and not mutually exclusive correct?

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Trump is a wheel grabber. He also throws ketchup on the wall. You want four more years of that?

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I think this board would settle with 4 days without your "let me have it both ways" commentary.

You have bad TDS, to the point you voted for Biden, then dare try and say you made a mistake but then continue to bash Trump and his supporters?

I trust Fauci more than your posts.

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GeorgiAg's sarcasm has been a bit obtuse lately and is getting lost on people a lot these days...but I thought this one was pretty benign...

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I'm not a Trump supporter in the least. He was "meh!" as Prez, but way better than Biden is or Clinton would have been. This idea that he was/is a threat to "democracy" is blowing spit bubbles level of stupid.

But yes, the raid was egregious and desperate.

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Rob, you always make these claims that your no Trump fan and a libertarian…but from most of your responses, it seems like you kiss the F16 narrative ring more often than not. I guess for some it's just easier not to rock the boat here and suffer all the ad homs that would follow.

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Rob kissing the ring?

FFS lol

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Trump started a trend of casting doubt on every election republicans lose with no proof. If people don't believe in democracy, there will be chaos. That's what trump wants.

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Dork Brandon needs to look up Al Gore and Hillary both saying election was stolen from them. How dare they make us lose faith in Democracy!

DarkBrandon0111 said:

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Trump started a trend of casting doubt on every election republicans lose with no proof. If people don't believe in democracy, there will be chaos. That's what trump wants.

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Hey bud, Joe Kennedy and LBJ would like a word with you. And that's just the modern era.

If you think the integrity of our election process is so sacrosanct that Trump was the Genesis of everyone doubting it, then you don't know history. The Democrats have been playing the long game on election fraud since long before you were born.

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I'm not a Trump supporter in the least. He was "meh!" as Prez, but way better than Biden is or Clinton would have been. This idea that he was/is a threat to "democracy" is blowing spit bubbles level of stupid.

But yes, the raid was egregious and desperate.

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Rob, you always make these claims that your no Trump fan and a libertarian…but from most of your responses, it seems like you kiss the F16 narrative ring more often than not. I guess for some it's just easier not to rock the boat here and suffer all the ad homs that would follow.

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what in the hell...? It is really the twilight zone up in here

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I have said many times that here, that while I am a libertarian leaning conservative, I didn't and won't vote for Trump. I think he is a threat to our democracy. I've been given hell for that by Trump supporters and that is fine.

But as to this raid, unless they found a dead body in that safe with Trumps finger prints around its neck, it is just as bad and just as destabilizing. It's an egregious abuse of power and will have long term implications. Even longer that Jan 6.

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Thanks for admitting to this corruption. Most of those who are outraged would agree that if there is evidence that a former president or sitting member of Congress committed a serious crime then law enforcement should submit a request for warrant to a non-partisan judge. Here we have law-enforcement who has already demonstrated political partisanship obtaining a warrant from a partisan magistrate to obtain a warrant to search for a nothing-burger crime. We know that it is a nothing-burger because it was treated as a nothing-burger when someone aligned with this agency's goals stuffed things down his pants. This is selective enforcement and a political attack, and is banana republic level corruption.

How do you feel about the Russian collusion conspiracy based on fabricated evidence that the FBI knew was fabricated yet chose to use because it fit their political agenda? How do you feel about Hunter Biden walking free despite overwhelming evidence that he committed serious crimes? To suggest that Trump is a threat to our democracy is absurd when compared to these real crimes.

This is the OP (and all TDS sufferers) when asked about Trump being a threat to democracy.

I agree with this man. If Trump did or did do.. All of those crimes.. the prove ones, should be arrested. pic.twitter.com/IXO2x4TBlt

— @BidenThoughts (@BidenThoughts_) August 10, 2022

Damn OP. You can't walk into stuff like this. This is rookie level stuff. If you think trump is an idiot, just own it.

Don't say "threat to democracy". You can't wiggle out of that. You have to understand the mental capacity of your audience. What I generally say if I am forced to engage with the mentally shallow thinking trump humpers is…

"I voted for trump twice before I realized he was a loose cannon with the mental capacity of a 13 year old. Anyone that actually believes the election was stolen is a mental midget, but verbalizing that thought and helping validate lots of other people who are equally stupid creates chaos. He should have known his trump humpers would do something stupid like go to the capital and act like fools."

Like I said, Trump doesn't have the capacity to understand much below the surface.

Also, Kudos for the troll post, you snagged 3 pages from that. Nice work.

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fka ftc said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Trump is a wheel grabber. He also throws ketchup on the wall. You want four more years of that?

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I think this board would settle with 4 days without your "let me have it both ways" commentary.

You have bad TDS, to the point you voted for Biden, then dare try and say you made a mistake but then continue to bash Trump and his supporters?

I trust Fauci more than your posts.

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GeorgiAg's sarcasm has been a bit obtuse lately and is getting lost on people a lot these days...but I thought this one was pretty benign...

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To me, the worst thing he did leading up to and including Jan 6 was just not tweeting for calm sooner. He waited until it was clear the shenanigans were not going anywhere. All the other stuff is pretty weak sauce IMHO.

I thought the wheel grabbing and ketchup stories were just funny.

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Trump started a trend of casting doubt on every election republicans lose with no proof. If people don't believe in democracy, there will be chaos. That's what trump wants.

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When I saw these "spikes", my doubt had nothing to do with Trump. Open your damn eyes and quit pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining.

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Damn OP. You can't walk into stuff like this. This is rookie level stuff. If you think trump is an idiot, just own it.

Don't say "threat to democracy". You can't wiggle out of that. You have to understand the mental capacity of your audience. What I generally say if I am forced to engage with the mentally shallow thinking trump humpers is…

"I voted for trump twice before I realized he was a loose cannon with the mental capacity of a 13 year old. Anyone that actually believes the election was stolen is a mental midget, but verbalizing that thought and helping validate lots of other people who are equally stupid creates chaos. He should have known his trump humpers would do something stupid like go to the capital and act like fools."

Like I said, Trump doesn't have the capacity to understand much below the surface.

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Ah thank you for gracing us with your presence and sharing your undoubtedly tenable knowledge oh transcendent enlightened one!