For all those who say Trump can't win (latest poll)

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StandUpforAmerica
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While I'd prefer DeSantis, I'd be very ok with Trump getting the nomination.



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crowman2010
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Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?
geoag58
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How does a President Trump who now knows how the game is played out for vengeance sound? Something may actually be accomplished!
Paradise Ag
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Doesn't matter a lick if the Swamp's printing machine again goes "brrrrrrr" for either cash or ballots or both.
oh no
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why do they even do a Trump vs Biden poll? Biden won't run again. His handlers are going to shut him down and find a new host.
Bunk Moreland
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crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
Bunk Moreland
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oh no said:

why do they even do a Trump vs Biden poll? Biden won't run again. His handlers are going to shut him down and find a new host.


Also this. Doesn't matter how Trump does heads up vs the dead man walking because he won't be the nominee anyway
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I would love to see another Trump presidency, but Trump was proven to be absolutely ineffectual at draining the swamp. Trump let the doj kneecap him at every turn. Everyone knew that there would be fraud with mail-in ballots yet it appears that Trump had no plan to counter or even expose evidence.

crowman2010
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Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
Did your life improve under Trump?
SouthTex99
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Swing Your Saber
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Trump failed to put together an effective legal team for '20 & has still failed to put together a comprehensive or qualified legal team.

He did not think it was necessary & did not spend the $20M+ up front costs it would have taken. If he had he would be president.

As of August '22 he still has not put together anything close to what it will take for him to get elected in '24.
Teslag
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crowman2010 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
Did your life improve under Trump?
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Yes. But my life also improved under bill clinton and obama. My fortune in life does not depend on presidents.
Science Denier
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Polls are meaningless. Any conservative at this juncture would wipe the floor with his lib counterpart.

The question is simple:

Are they going to allow for a fair election? if not, the Trump, DeSantis is gonna lose. Period.
Four Seasons Landscaping
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Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?
Because it's stupid to vote for Trump because of your feelings for him.

We all saw how many swamp creatures he hired, how he was too weak to do anything about millions of illegal voters, couldn't overcome McCain on HCA, couldn't finish the wall, and how he handed the country over to Fauci to run.

Keep the part of that Trump/DeSantis ticket that was supporting the SEALs in Iraq in the 2000s and drop the part that was a registered Democrat in the 2000s, and it's perfect.
Bunk Moreland
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Teslag said:

crowman2010 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
Did your life improve under Trump?
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Yes. But my life also improved under bill clinton and obama. My fortune in life does not depend on presidents.


You said it before I could. I'm struggling to imagine the mindset of thinking the president has any serious control over my every day life.
Swing Your Saber
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Conversely DeSantis has the nucleus of a National legal team already in position. It is not a secret or hidden. I personally know one of the lawyers in Texas & he would not work for a Trump ticket unless he had F-You money paid up front into his IOLTA. He is fairly representative of the situation Trump will run into.
Science Denier
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Bunk Moreland said:

Teslag said:

crowman2010 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
Did your life improve under Trump?
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Yes. But my life also improved under bill clinton and obama. My fortune in life does not depend on presidents.


You said it before I could. I'm struggling to imagine the mindset of thinking the president has any serious control over my every day life.
The asswipe running Biden has
1. Caused massive inflation
2. Has sicked the FBI/CiA on US citizens
3. Has purposefully jacked gas prices up thru the roof
4. Has allowed MILLIONS of illegals into Texas
5. Has done his best to censor anything but woke narratives
6. Has directly lied to you multiple times

This affects YOU. It may not have ruined your life, but YOU are affected by the ******** controlling Biden.
StandUpforAmerica
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Science Denier said:

Bunk Moreland said:

Teslag said:

crowman2010 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
Did your life improve under Trump?
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Yes. But my life also improved under bill clinton and obama. My fortune in life does not depend on presidents.


You said it before I could. I'm struggling to imagine the mindset of thinking the president has any serious control over my every day life.
The asswipe running Biden has
1. Caused massive inflation
2. Has sicked the FBI/CiA on US citizens
3. Has purposefully jacked gas prices up thru the roof
4. Has allowed MILLIONS of illegals into Texas
5. Has done his best to censor anything but woke narratives
6. Has directly lied to you multiple times

This affects YOU. It may not have ruined your life, but YOU are affected by the ******** controlling Biden.
He suffers from TDS... he just doesn't know it.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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Swing Your Saber said:

Trump failed to put together an effective legal team for '20 & has still failed to put together a comprehensive or qualified legal team.

He did not think it was necessary & did not spend the $20M+ up front costs it would have taken. If he had he would be president.

As of August '22 he still has not put together anything close to what it will take for him to get elected in '24.



Maybe the issue isn't the team and instead it's the "legal issue" that is weak?
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
TexasAggie81
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Trump may be running, but Joe Biden isn't. Thus, this poll is useless.
crowman2010
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Bunk Moreland said:

Teslag said:

crowman2010 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
Did your life improve under Trump?
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Yes. But my life also improved under bill clinton and obama. My fortune in life does not depend on presidents.


You said it before I could. I'm struggling to imagine the mindset of thinking the president has any serious control over my every day life.
It does for those that work in oil & gas, and because of their policies, it has directly influenced people's life style and how far their dollar will go.

Case in point: fuel cost

Some people are fortunate enough to be in industries that are booming right now (specifically Texas real estate).
coupland boy
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I trust DeSantis not to **** it all up far more than Trump.

Did I say the press treated Trump fairly? No. Will DeSantis be treated fairly? No.

DeSantis personal discipline >>>> Trump
Bunk Moreland
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StandUpforAmerica said:

Science Denier said:

Bunk Moreland said:

Teslag said:

crowman2010 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
Did your life improve under Trump?
.
Yes. But my life also improved under bill clinton and obama. My fortune in life does not depend on presidents.


You said it before I could. I'm struggling to imagine the mindset of thinking the president has any serious control over my every day life.
The asswipe running Biden has
1. Caused massive inflation
2. Has sicked the FBI/CiA on US citizens
3. Has purposefully jacked gas prices up thru the roof
4. Has allowed MILLIONS of illegals into Texas
5. Has done his best to censor anything but woke narratives
6. Has directly lied to you multiple times

This affects YOU. It may not have ruined your life, but YOU are affected by the ******** controlling Biden.
He suffers from TDS... he just doesn't know it.


Said it before, there's definitely TDS on this board but many don't understand its they who suffer from it.

DeSantis is a better executive with zero warts and a 2 year track record that is incredible as the leader of his state. Trump will go down to whichever bland person stands next to him because we all know it won't be Biden.
crowman2010
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coupland boy said:

I trust DeSantis not to **** it all up far more than Trump.

Did I say the press treated Trump fairly? No. Will DeSantis be treated fairly? No.

DeSantis personal discipline >>>> Trump
What did Trump screw up?
FCBlitz
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I am voting for Trump in the primaries.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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coupland boy said:

I trust DeSantis not to **** it all up far more than Trump.

Did I say the press treated Trump fairly? No. Will DeSantis be treated fairly? No.

DeSantis personal discipline >>>> Trump


if you want desantis to be treated fairly have trump as VP. will never happen but can you imagine the conundrum the dems would have in their hand. push to hard or try to inpeach desantis and you get your worst nightmare.
aggie93
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The bigger issue is Biden is unlikely to run in '24 so it won't be a rematch it will likely be Trump v Newsome or Trump v Buttigieg or Trump v Harris or TBD.

It's an easy argument that Biden is too old, has dementia, and is incompetent. The problem is when you have a younger and fresher face with MSM backing against a very old Trump who has such high negatives.

It's by far the better move for Trump to step aside and endorse DeSantis, a Dem win in '24 simply would be a disaster. Unfortunately for all his positives Trump's ego is such a monster negative both politically and practically it simply isn't worth it. If Trump truly cares about what is best for America he has to know deep down that DeSantis is a better choice. BTW, if it is Trump it may have a reverse effect on the Down Ballot. There are some folks who would hold their nose and vote Trump but would not want him to have a GOP Congress because they don't trust him or just despise him. You can argue they are wrong but that doesn't change the reality that is how a lot of folks think.

I still think Trump wins in '24 but I also think he is far less likely to win than DeSantis and more importantly I am confident he would be far less effective.
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Four Seasons Landscaping
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What did Trump screw up?
Who gave Fauci his power?
aggiehawg
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Swing Your Saber said:

Conversely DeSantis has the nucleus of a National legal team already in position. It is not a secret or hidden. I personally know one of the lawyers in Texas & he would not work for a Trump ticket unless he had F-You money paid up front into his IOLTA. He is fairly representative of the situation Trump will run into.

That's because there is an organization devoted solely to filing false bar complaints and in general harassing lawyers who have taken on Trump or Trump supporting cases and clients. Intimidation tactics work when their livelihood is threatened.

Hell, one of the lead attorneys for the plaintiffs in the Dobbs case was kicked out of his law firm.
crowman2010
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Four Seasons Landscaping said:

Quote:

What did Trump screw up?
Who gave Fauci his power?
White liberals
Science Denier
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Swing Your Saber said:

Conversely DeSantis has the nucleus of a National legal team already in position. It is not a secret or hidden. I personally know one of the lawyers in Texas & he would not work for a Trump ticket unless he had F-You money paid up front into his IOLTA. He is fairly representative of the situation Trump will run into.

I'm sure this is true, which is incredible sad for this country. Libs have weaponized government to attack conservatives so much. They went after anyone that tried to help Trump. Political hits to everyone. You work for Trump, we are coming at you with the full force of the Government behind us.

Since most can't defend that type of attack, they won't work for him.

What libs have done is ****ing disgusting.

If it's DeSantis, I hope he makes these ****wads go to prison for it.
Rydyn
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Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
I would prefer DeSantis too but this is such a bad take on voting. Don't throw your vote away. Voting third party is like not voting at all.
dreyOO
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Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
I would support DeSantis or Trump or Cruz or Paul. Basically, anyone that will go to battle with the corrupt system.

Any while I agree with the "egotistical, erratic, poor communication, too old and doesn't unify" characterizations, don't twist that into saying he was a failed leader.

If anything, he exposed a very corrupt Deep State composed of the Dims, GOP, MSM, government lifetime bureaucrats -- that stymied his performance and was unknown to the common citizen. In spite of that corruption, he was LARGELY successful in pushing good policy. That's why he won the election, unless you believe the miraculous fiction spun in DNC controlled voting centers that shut their doors in the middle of the night to all uncover just enough Mail-in Ballots.

People butthurt over Trump's boorish behavior need to get over it and realize the policy decisions matter 100x more to your life and America's progress. Hell yea I wish he was more polished and refined...but that's a nice-to-have at this point.
Bunk Moreland
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Rydyn said:

Bunk Moreland said:

crowman2010 said:

Why is the Trump/DeSantis ticket not the right one?


Because Trump ultimately failed as a leader, he's erratic, egotistical to a fault, he's got tons of warts across the swing vote portion of the country, hired horrific people all 4 years and operated a chaotic administration. And he's TOO OLD.

He got my vote before. I can't imagine a scenario where he'd get it again. I'll vote Libertarian or write in Rand or DeSantis.

DeSantis is the future.
I would prefer DeSantis too but this is such a bad take on voting. Don't throw your vote away. Voting third party is like not voting at all.


To me a republican voting for people like McCain and Romney in 08/12 is throwing their vote away. If you actually didn't like them, vote for someone else. Then again I detest the 2-party system and team politics that has smothered this country.
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oh no said:

why do they even do a Trump vs Biden poll? Biden won't run again. His handlers are going to shut him down and find a new host.
Yeah, how bout a Trump vs Kamala (LOL!) poll or a Trump vs Boot-Edge-Edge poll?
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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