In 2016 Biden threatened Ukraine Prez if worked w Trump

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captkirk
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"If you tell Trump about our Money Laundering operation through Ukraine, we'll have you killed" [/The Big Guy]
aezmvp
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That didnt sound like an assassination threat. The physical security... I definitely need additional context.
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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So the blue check mark means I should take this story as true? In any event, this would not surprise me if true. Biden is truly a piece of steaming dog *****
captkirk
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aezmvp said:

That didnt sound like an assassination threat. The physical security... I definitely need additional context.
"Do X, because your physical security depends on it" Hmmmmm
agsalaska
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I am going to need a little more context and a complete transcript of the call. Sounded to me like when he says 'your' he was talking about Ukraine.


Don't get me wrong, It wouldn't surprise me at all. But any call ike that or claim like that requires the entire transcript before anyone can have an educated opinion.

Is the entire transcript available>
MookieBlaylock
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3rd hand testimony good enough to INPeach
Clown Baby
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Yeahhh, that's why OAN is OAN. That wasn't an assassination threat, at best it would be very debatable.

Joe Biden is a corrupt piece of s***, OAN doesn't need to lie or embellish to make him look bad.
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captkirk said:

"If you tell Trump about our Money Laundering operation through Ukraine, we'll have you killed" [/The Big Guy]


Now they do it out in the open.....
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
aggiehawg
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Hmm. November 16, 2016 is the conversation. Simple google search for "Privatbank" shows this.

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On 18 December 2016, the bank was nationalized by the government of Ukraine to protect its 20 million customers and to preserve "financial stability in the country". A forensic audit performed by Kroll showed that the bank had been subject to large scale coordinated fraud before nationalisation resulting in losses of at least US$5.5 billion
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PrivatBank has its headquarters in Dnipro, in central Ukraine. It was founded and managed by Gennadiy Bogolyubov and Ihor Kolomoyskyi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrivatBank

Who is Kolomovsky?

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He has been rated as the second or third richest person in Ukraine (after Rinat Akhmetov and/or Viktor Pinchuk) and is seen as one of the most influential oligarchs. He co-founded PrivatBank and its informal extension of companies Privat Group in 1992, and acquired extensive media holdings. He served as Governor of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast from 2014 until his dismissal by President Petro Poroshenko in 2016. That year, following charges against him of large-scale fraud, PrivatBank was taken into state ownership.

Kolomoisky's media power and funding supported Volodymyr Zelensky in his successful 2019 presidential campaign and was accused by President Petroshenko of having his former TV channel star in his "pocket". In 2021 the United States banned Kolomoisky and his family from entering the country citing the threat posed by his corrupt practices to the Ukrainian public's faith in democratic institutions.
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agsalaska
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Clown Baby said:



Joe Biden is a corrupt piece of s***, OAN doesn't need to lie or embellish to make him look bad.
It's part of the game. It is way too easy nowadays. Partisans don't want to question it. They want to believe it.
deddog
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There is defintely more here than Quid Pro Quo?

Remember when Dems used to care about that?
I remember
cevans_40
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Clown Baby said:

Yeahhh, that's why OAN is OAN. That wasn't an assassination threat, at best it would be very debatable.

Joe Biden is a corrupt piece of s***, OAN doesn't need to lie or embellish to make him look bad.

That was straight out of the Adam Schiff playbook.
TexAgs91
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That didn't sound like a perfect phone call
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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exp
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This would easily get Trump impeached. Easily.
aggiehawg
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Biden makes a call middle of November 2016. Mentions Trump, Privatbank and IMF Loans and he doesn't want Trump providing financial aid to Ukraine?

And a month later Poroshenko nationalizes the bank and there's over 5 billion dollars missing?
OKCAg2002
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Something something quid pro quo.
91AggieLawyer
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agsalaska said:

I am going to need a little more context and a complete transcript of the call. Sounded to me like when he says 'your' he was talking about Ukraine.

If that were true, why wouldn't he tell the new administration and get them on board with whatever he thought was the threat? Why wouldn't he clue in the transition team and say, "hey, you're not understanding this thing correctly and you risk messing this up..." If the Trump admin does indeed go about "screwing it up," Biden would certainly have the media to run the story and try and embarrass Trump. You can't suggest he would be above that.

For that matter, why not make it all public? Why is this just coming out now if he was worried only about the safety of the guy from OUTSIDE forces?

I'm certainly not against more information and holding off on an opinion, but at first glance, this indeed sounds like a threat. Biden didn't have any means to carry it out but the Ukrainian guy didn't know that.
aggiehawg
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Biden didn't have any means to carry it out but the Ukrainian guy didn't know that.
We don't know that. Hunter was still on the Board at Burisma and had access to various oligarchs who were not above whacking someone.

I'm sure Poroshenko remembered the Maidan Revolution just a few years before. How much was the US involved in that one? Yanukovych wasn't killed but he got the hell out of dodge fast enough.

Not an accusation just an observation.

ETA: Found the connection with the IMF. A $5.6 billion bailout was financed with IMF funds Link
BQ78
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CIA belongs to the Democrats now, not the nation.
Old Sarge
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BQ78 said:

CIA belongs to the Democrats now, not the nation.


This is exactly why Soros isn't room temperature.
"Green" is the new RED.
IslanderAg04
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BQ78 said:

CIA belongs to the Democrats now, not the nation.


Why Flyn wanted it gutted. Also why Gen Flyn was targetted.
MookieBlaylock
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exp said:

This would easily get Trump impeached. Easily.


It already did...
Ag with kids
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aezmvp said:

That didnt sound like an assassination threat. The physical security... I definitely need additional context.
That's a nice life you have. Be a shame if something were to happen to it....
BTHOtrolls
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The lack of coherency in Biden's speech since being elected President vs the audio from 2016 is incredible.
captkirk
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BTHOtrolls said:

The lack of coherency in Biden's speech since being elected President vs the audio from 2016 is incredible.
Its been a tough 6 years for Brandon
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aezmvp said:

That didnt sound like an assassination threat. The physical security... I definitely need additional context.


Bull**** it didn't. Hellen Keller could see and hear exactly what he means in that recording. Ask yourself this, had that been Trump on that call.
agsalaska
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BLSD said:

aezmvp said:

That didnt sound like an assassination threat. The physical security... I definitely need additional context.


Bull**** it didn't. Hellen Keller could see and hear exactly what he means in that recording. Ask yourself this, had that been Trump on that call.


You just compared, and justified, your line of thinking by how a lib would react. Funny.


This is why media outlets do things like this. They know those that want to believe will bite. They know people won't care about context, or desire an entire transcript, or do anything that might go against what they want to hear.

You are buying the same style if **** the left sold about Trump. At least you can admit it.
Goodnight Irene
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agsalaska said:

Clown Baby said:



Joe Biden is a corrupt piece of s***, OAN doesn't need to lie or embellish to make him look bad.
It's part of the game. It is way too easy nowadays. Partisans don't want to question it. They want to believe it.


I only watched the video snippet provided, but I didn't see that OAN made that claim. Only the person tweeting made the claim
DGrimesAg92
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agsalaska said:

BLSD said:

aezmvp said:

That didnt sound like an assassination threat. The physical security... I definitely need additional context.


Bull**** it didn't. Hellen Keller could see and hear exactly what he means in that recording. Ask yourself this, had that been Trump on that call.


You just compared, and justified, your line of thinking by how a lib would react. Funny.


This is why media outlets do things like this. They know those that want to believe will bite. They know people won't care about context, or desire an entire transcript, or do anything that might go against what they want to hear.

You are buying the same style if **** the left sold about Trump. At least you can admit it.


No. It goes to show if it "were" Trump, it would be on every main stream news media and every single "usual suspect" would be in front of the cameras DEMANDING an investigation. What we do know, it happened, it's 100% true and it will never make the MSM reports.
EKUAg
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Chanel Rion reported on this over a year and a half ago.
agsalaska
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BLSD said:

agsalaska said:

BLSD said:

aezmvp said:

That didnt sound like an assassination threat. The physical security... I definitely need additional context.


Bull**** it didn't. Hellen Keller could see and hear exactly what he means in that recording. Ask yourself this, had that been Trump on that call.


You just compared, and justified, your line of thinking by how a lib would react. Funny.


This is why media outlets do things like this. They know those that want to believe will bite. They know people won't care about context, or desire an entire transcript, or do anything that might go against what they want to hear.

You are buying the same style if **** the left sold about Trump. At least you can admit it.


No. It goes to show if it "were" Trump, it would be on every main stream news media and every single "usual suspect" would be in front of the cameras DEMANDING an investigation. What we do know, it happened, it's 100% true and it will never make the MSM reports.


Excellent post

Thanks
Funky Winkerbean
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Do laws matter anymore? There is not an issue that bothers me more than the "legal" system as it appears. Why is nobody doing anything?
BusterAg
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aezmvp said:

That didnt sound like an assassination threat. The physical security... I definitely need additional context.
Did Trump ask the state of Georgia to find illegal votes to change the election?
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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