Left-Wing Billionaire Turning Founding Fathers' Homes into Anti-American Monuments

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I was just at Monticello yesterday. They had a tour about slavery and the lady was very woke. We listened to the 10 minute opening and then had to leave.

She ended the opening by saying something like…

"If the man who wrote the Declaration of Independence owned so many slaves, but also said all men are create equal…. can we believe in anything he wrote in the document".

We left, talked about how woke it was and wished we hadn't gone… one of the lowlights of our vacation
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Manhattan said:

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Everything faded into mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. -George Orwell, 1984



The past was whitewashed and erased… until now, if that is the quote you are going to use you should be ecstatic.

The founding fathers' accomplishments should be celebrated but there is no reason to not also teach the darker side of history so we don't repeat the same mistakes.
We didn't know about slavery until now?

Odd.

I learned about it 40+ years ago...

Gimme a ****ing break.

This **** is like teaching that the US got involved in WWII due to a bloodlust to kill Japanese and Germans and that's the overarching lesson of our involvement in the War...
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ChemEAg08 said:

If republicans refuse to find and prosecute voter fraud and prevent the leftists in the ministry of truth, it is time to Texit. To preserve our founding fathers' image of our nation.


TEXIT let's do it!
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Manhattan said:

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Everything faded into mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. -George Orwell, 1984



The past was whitewashed and erased… until now, if that is the quote you are going to use you should be ecstatic.

The founding fathers' accomplishments should be celebrated but there is no reason to not also teach the darker side of history so we don't repeat the same mistakes.
When you have the intellectual capacity of a hammer, everything looks like a racist nail.
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I was just at Monticello yesterday. They had a tour about slavery and the lady was very woke. We listened to the 10 minute opening and then had to leave.

She ended the opening by saying something like…

"If the man who wrote the Declaration of Independence owned so many slaves, but also said all men are create equal…. can we believe in anything he wrote in the document".

We left, talked about how woke it was and wished we hadn't gone… one of the lowlights of our vacation
So the Marxists are propagandizing everyone on the tour.

And of course there it is
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can we believe in anything he wrote in the document
The object of their true desire to destroy, and not merely statues.
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Hydrocele_aggie said:

Manhattan said:

Quote:


Everything faded into mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. -George Orwell, 1984



The past was whitewashed and erased… until now, if that is the quote you are going to use you should be ecstatic.

The founding fathers' accomplishments should be celebrated but there is no reason to not also teach the darker side of history so we don't repeat the same mistakes.


How many socks is queef db allowed to have
Have you seen a picture of queef?

"He" is *exactly* as you would expect - picture perfect neutered beta "male". They think acting "intellectual" on a newsgroup is going to make up for the obvious lack of testosterone.
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deddog said:

Hydrocele_aggie said:

Manhattan said:

Quote:


Everything faded into mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. -George Orwell, 1984



The past was whitewashed and erased… until now, if that is the quote you are going to use you should be ecstatic.

The founding fathers' accomplishments should be celebrated but there is no reason to not also teach the darker side of history so we don't repeat the same mistakes.


How many socks is queef db allowed to have
Have you seen a picture of queef?

"He" is *exactly* as you would expect - picture perfect neutered beta "male". They think acting "intellectual" on a newsgroup is going to make up for the obvious lack of testosterone.
Supported by his wife as well since he clearly is too fragile for the real world.
Staff - take out the trash.
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Marcus Brutus said:

Manhattan said:

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Everything faded into mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. -George Orwell, 1984



The past was whitewashed and erased… until now, if that is the quote you are going to use you should be ecstatic.

The founding fathers' accomplishments should be celebrated but there is no reason to not also teach the darker side of history so we don't repeat the same mistakes.


Lol, we've been slavery free for 150 years. We haven't repeated that same mistake despite the fact that we've not had a woke anti Jefferson history lesson at his home in DC since it was opened to the public.

No, we don't need to teach the darker side to avoid enslaving people again.


Have we?

Democrats still exist as the party of "darkies, stay on our plantation!".
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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Rubenstein...

On that note, we visited Andrew Jackson's home over spring break and I was pleasantly surprised he was treated as fairly as he was considering some of the stuff he did.

It was pretty much - yes he had some faults but his drive and ambition helped build this country for the better. I was actually kind of surprised.
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WaltonAg18 said:

Why couldn't they show the notably untroubled and tame life of Jefferson without bringing that woke nonsense about "slaves" and "sexual assault", what a downer!
Guess any MLK exhibit should extensively feature exhibits about rape and non-consensual sex among chronic womanizers in the US?
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DrEvazanPhD said:

WaltonAg18 said:

Why couldn't they show the notably untroubled and tame life of Jefferson without bringing that woke nonsense about "slaves" and "sexual assault", what a downer!
Guess any MLK exhibit should extensively feature exhibits about rape and non-consensual sex among chronic womanizers in the US?
Well, lots of that comes along with an mlk blvd.
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She ended the opening by saying something like…

"If the man who wrote the Declaration of Independence owned so many slaves, but also said all men are create equal…. can we believe in anything he wrote in the document".
well that is BLM and today's democrats' argument to say, "F this experiment. Let's try Marxism", so it makes sense they're preaching this at Thomas Jefferson's house now.
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Do these exhibits discuss the largest slave trade in the country's history happening now at our Southern border, fully supported, funded, and encouraged by the Democrat Party and our political leaders?
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The communist manifesto in full operation. One aspect, "destroy history by fraud".
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Visited Monticello in 2014 and thoroughly enjoyed it. Part of the tour was about slave life on the plantation, I think Sally Hemmings was even mentioned, and that is fair.

It should not be a platform for an indictment of slavery in general or a long lecture about Jefferson's political involvement (or non-involvement) in it.
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I visited UVA 18 months ago and I went to Monticello for a tour. The three different tour guides spewed a disgusting, unending harangue about Mr. Jefferson's "dark side" and that the embarrassing truth can and should now be told. I left the group after 30 minutes and strolled the beautiful grounds on my own.
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medwriter said:

BigRobSA said:

Funny that a liberal, whose entire ideology is based on racism, would decry a slave owner. Dems have put millions of blacks and browns on their plantation and won't let them succeed their way off of it.
They love them some permanent underclass. That's why they are importing 100s of thousands of people from South of the border. They care less about those people than they do a spotted owl, much less.


Yes sir, the geeks, misfits, emos, turds of days past are in charge. Master manipulators, because instead of being told to square away, the liberal teachers preached their acceptance while demeaning salt of the earth scholars and athletes. They ran with their new power. They come in all colors- Obama being the worst- bright little black kid who could talk, given power by Ivy leaguers who thought it amazing a black guy could be this cool with wild ass ideas. They are not dumb, but sneaky little sheets who are paying us back for their non acceptance. Could you imagine having a beer with any of them?
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oh no said:

They'll try to tell you it's the republicans and conservatives that are the modern day fascist book burners because they don't want gay and trans children's books in the elementary school library, but the progressives are obviously the ones trying to rewrite history. The 1619 project designed to make Americans ashamed of their country, tearing down statues of founding fathers, etc.
This is what they mean when they say "Build Back Better." Here's a great idea...
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Communist Agenda Goals of 1963

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
2+2=5
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AGinHI said:

Allowing these *******s to debase our Founding Fathers and decry them as immoral opens a wider door to attack the Constitution.
which is the sole purpose of this. They want to replace the constitution with a woke document.
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Zarathustra said:


I think an investigation how this guy made all his money is in order. Doesn't sound like equality if he is hoarding billions while so many people suffer in the world. I bet the woke mob would be all in favor of seizing this guy's fortune and redistributing it all.


David M. Rubenstein.

You'll just get accused of anti-Semitism.
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America has been dead for a long time. It's good that people are finally noticing. Maybe soon we'll actually do something about it.
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Zarathustra said:


I think an investigation how this guy made all his money is in order. Doesn't sound like equality if he is hoarding billions while so many people suffer in the world. I bet the woke mob would be all in favor of seizing this guy's fortune and redistributing it all.




Cool it with the anti-semitism
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Manhattan said:

Quote:


Everything faded into mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. -George Orwell, 1984



The past was whitewashed and erased… until now, if that is the quote you are going to use you should be ecstatic.

The founding fathers' accomplishments should be celebrated but there is no reason to not also teach the darker side of history so we don't repeat the same mistakes.


But that is not what is happening. Most have now been eye-witness to some of these traitorous anti-American actions and know the truth. The type language you use in your response is cloward-piven to a tee, the actual intent is becoming known to all and you continue to support this leftist communist authoritarian tripe.

We the people consent only to the form of government our founders provided us. And our founders encourage the people to remove a government that no longer guarantees our freedoms. This road that the federal government is headed down leads to death because We The People will only go so far before we stop and turn on those who are attempting to take our freedoms and squash them like a bug.
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TexAgs91 said:

This is the country we live in. America is dead.
Don't worry, Joe's gonna build back better (in HIS eyes). Hell, he won't be around much longer to witness the complete downfall anyway. Why not just throw a monkey wrench into everything this country has stood and worked hard for centuries?
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BQ2017 said:

America has been dead for a long time. It's good that people are finally noticing. Maybe soon we'll actually do something about it.
No one is going to do anything about it. The people who are left who still care are a permanently and rapidly shrinking group. We've been undermined from inside and overrun from outside for decades. It's over and has been for a while, I always knew this would happen.

I'm 54 and I'm confident that during my lifetime anything having to do with America up to the 1960s and maybe even up to the 2000s will be considered absolutely taboo. Within a few more decades the people who live here (they won't really be "Americans" in any meaningful way other than their geographic location) will be taught to look back on our country the way Germany treats their Nazi period. It's inevitable and it's already begun.

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She ended the opening by saying something like…

"If the man who wrote the Declaration of Independence owned so many slaves, but also said all men are create equal…. can we believe in anything he wrote in the document".



I'm sure it's no accident that she left out the fact that Jefferson had originally placed a passage in the Declaration of Independence that condemned slavery in order to have the institution removed.
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Terminal list updated.
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BQ2017 said:

America has been dead for a long time. It's good that people are finally noticing. Maybe soon we'll actually do something about it.

That would be nice. I'd prefer people wake up before it's too late. If they would have woken up before handing the reigns to Marxists even better.
"Freedom is never more than one election away from extinction"
Fight! Fight! Fight!
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Manhattan said:

Quote:


Everything faded into mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. -George Orwell, 1984



The past was whitewashed and erased… until now, if that is the quote you are going to use you should be ecstatic.

The founding fathers' accomplishments should be celebrated but there is no reason to not also teach the darker side of history so we don't repeat the same mistakes.

How can you celebrate something you don't believe in?



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