President of National WOMEN's law center won't define a woman

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Tom Kazansky 2012
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Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
titan
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AGinHI said:

Postmodernism has really twisted people into not knowing up from down and left from right.
Yes, they are making fundamentalist Islam look friendly to women.
Marcus Brutus
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Old McDonald said:

tysker said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
is it though? how does one define gender expression?
is it within the confines of gender norms and our societal constructs which determine gender roles and expectations therein? in a world where we are all on spectrum what exactly can delineate one gender expression from another?
what delineates red from orange on the visible light spectrum? why does that even matter? just treat people with basic dignity and respect


If it's just gender expression, why do tits and dicks get chopped off, which is biological?

It's pretty dang simple, 30 year old "millionaire". You born with a dick and xy, you're a man. XX and a vagina, a woman.

Gender expression is your term for mental illness.
I am always wrong
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Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really


Wrong. Biological sex equals gender 100% of the time. They are synonymous. I'm sure there are some people out there who are mentally ill and believe that they are not what they are, but that doesn't mean anything other than that they are mentally ill. If I really and truly believe that I am a tree and identify as a tree, that just means I am mentally ill, and it is a perfect logical equivalent to a man identifying as a woman or vice versa. You can't be what you're not, and in a sane world not run by far-left fascists, nobody should be required to say that you are what you're not.

The only extraordinarily rare semi-exception to this hard and fast rule is hermaphrodites that result from freak genetic mutation, but even then they have chromosomes that define what they are. There is an even more extraordinarily rare instance where a hermaphrodite can have both male and female chromosomes, but this is like 1 out of tens of millions of people. We don't define reality and make policy based on ultra extraordinarily rare cases of things.
samurai_science
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BlackLab
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If I identify as a unicorn, does that mean unicorns exist?
CDUB98
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Woman:

XX Chromosomes. It's that simple.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Old McDonald said:

tysker said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
is it though? how does one define gender expression?
is it within the confines of gender norms and our societal constructs which determine gender roles and expectations therein? in a world where we are all on spectrum what exactly can delineate one gender expression from another?
what delineates red from orange on the visible light spectrum? why does that even matter? just treat people with basic dignity and respect


Quote:

someone who instinctually knows to avoid you


Interesting back to back posts.

You are asking why does it matter that we have common definitions that can be simply understood. Then refusing to answer the questions that arise when you instead use language to have complex definitions that can't logically be understood. Your exact mentality is the problem.
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
One Louder
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Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really


A biological man (sex XY) is not a woman no matter how much he presents as one. Dressing as a woman (XX) is an expression of preference, not a change in biology. It doesn't change reality. BIOLOGICAL WOMEN are women. Everything else is dress-up.
AGinHI
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Old McDonald said:

tysker said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
is it though? how does one define gender expression?
is it within the confines of gender norms and our societal constructs which determine gender roles and expectations therein? in a world where we are all on spectrum what exactly can delineate one gender expression from another?
what delineates red from orange on the visible light spectrum? why does that even matter? just treat people with basic dignity and respect
Because when you're dealing with flesh and blood people there are real world consequences.

Or have you not heard of John Money and his test subject Bruce/David Reimer?
Gigem314
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Old McDonald said:

deddog said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
So define a woman
someone who instinctually knows to avoid you
In that case...I bet a lot of actual women and young girls out there wish Joe and Hunter Biden were women.
Who?mikejones!
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Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really


Not anymore. There's been 2 threads in the last two days with organizations saying gender and sex is now the same thing.

There is no difference between gender and sex because sex defines gender.
IslanderAg04
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Old McDonald said:

tysker said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
is it though? how does one define gender expression?
is it within the confines of gender norms and our societal constructs which determine gender roles and expectations therein? in a world where we are all on spectrum what exactly can delineate one gender expression from another?
what delineates red from orange on the visible light spectrum? why does that even matter? just treat people with basic dignity and respect


Dignity goes out the window when you get canceled, tarred and feathered bc you say men cant get pregnant.
Owlagdad
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She knows what a woman is. When it was about real womens rights she was there collecting that paycheck. Now the ones writing her checks want to change what a woman is.
As Rush said, always follow the money.
BigRobSA
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Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really


You can "Express" whatever you want. You're still either male or female. Basic ass science.
Ags4DaWin
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Old McDonald said:

tysker said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
is it though? how does one define gender expression?
is it within the confines of gender norms and our societal constructs which determine gender roles and expectations therein? in a world where we are all on spectrum what exactly can delineate one gender expression from another?
what delineates red from orange on the visible light spectrum? why does that even matter? just treat people with basic dignity and respect


Basic dignity and respect means telling them the truth. It does not mean reinforcing harmful delusions that encourage them to distort reality and maintain a pathologic worldview that causes suicidal and self harming thoughts.
harleyds2
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can't believe txagfan hasnt given old mac moral supports
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Old McDonald said:

deddog said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
So define a woman
someone who instinctually knows to avoid you


Answer the MFing question instead of dodging it
Raptor
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Webster's Dictionary from 1828

"WOMAN, noun plural women. [a compound of womb and man.]

1. The female of the human race, grown to adult years.

And the rib, which the Lord god had taken from the man, made he a woman Genesis 2:22.

Women are soft, mild, pitiful, and flexible.

We see every day women perish with infamy, by having been too willing to set their beauty to show.

I have observed among all nations that the women ornament themselves more tan the men; that wherever found, they are the same kind, civil, obliging, humane, tender beings, inclined to be gay and cheerful, timorous and modest.

2. A female attendant or servant.

WOMAN, verb intransitive To make pliant."
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Raptor
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Same dictionary…

"FE'MALE, noun [Latin femella. See Feminine.]

1. Among animals, one of that sex which conceives and brings forth young.

2. Among plants, that which produces fruit; that which bears the pistil and receives the pollen of the male flowers.

FE'MALE, adjective

1. Noting the sex which produces young; not male; as a female bee.

2. Pertaining to females; as a female hand or heart; female tenderness.

To the generous decision of a female mind, we owe the discovery of America.

3. Feminine; soft; delicate; weak.

Female rhymes, double rhymes, so called from the French, in which language they end in e feminine."
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Decay
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Old McDonald said:

tysker said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
is it though? how does one define gender expression?
is it within the confines of gender norms and our societal constructs which determine gender roles and expectations therein? in a world where we are all on spectrum what exactly can delineate one gender expression from another?
what delineates red from orange on the visible light spectrum? why does that even matter? just treat people with basic dignity and respect

We can literally measure light and determine if it's red or orange. There's standards and definitions. You can break it down to the components of RGB or CMYK.

It matters because even if people perceive colors differently, you can always compare it to the standard and determine what it is.

Hope that helps!
f1ghtintexasaggie
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Old McDonald said:

tysker said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
is it though? how does one define gender expression?
is it within the confines of gender norms and our societal constructs which determine gender roles and expectations therein? in a world where we are all on spectrum what exactly can delineate one gender expression from another?
what delineates red from orange on the visible light spectrum? why does that even matter? just treat people with basic dignity and respect


Electromagnetic wavelength. Now answer the question originally posed to you, please.
Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX
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Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
If a ChiCom or a RU-ski walked up to this gal and pressed the cold steel barrel of a 9mm against her skull and asked the same question, "Define a woman?" How would this woman answer the question? Asking for a friend.
zephyr88
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They better start asking some white folks the same questions or they will end up being labeled as racist transphobes by the Berkeley professor.
EMY92
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deddog said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
So define a woman


Had it's balls removed and can be whiny. I guess it's a woman now. Until it's time to lick certain equipment.
doubledog
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Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
gender expression =/= reality

very true, really
BAP Enthusiast
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deddog said:

Old McDonald said:

biological sex =/= gender expression

pretty simple really
So define a woman


That's easy, a woman is:

BAP Enthusiast
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Esteban du Plantier said:

What I don't understand is why, if I could identify as a woman, why can't I decide I'm black?

Really, what's the difference?


Race is a social construct so of course you can.
Clown Baby
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LOYAL AG said:

Why are women voting for a party that's so determined to minimize their role in society?

It's mostly well-off white suburban women (often unemployed) who like to larp as the oppressed. I don't know why, but a lot of white women seemed to get a case of serious FOMO when everyone started becoming a victim.
Old McDonald
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Marcus Brutus said:

If it's just gender expression, why do tits and dicks get chopped off, which is biological?

It's pretty dang simple, 30 year old "millionaire". You born with a dick and xy, you're a man. XX and a vagina, a woman.

Gender expression is your term for mental illness.
i have no more business caring that someone undergoes that kind of surgery than i do a cis woman getting lipo or a cis man getting a hair transplant. their body their choice, not for me to judge.

not sure what me being a millionaire has to do with this topic, strange fixation you have on that when you reply to my posts
Decay
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"why should I care if someone chops their dick off?"

Maybe because you have empathy and don't like that someone mutilated themselves because of a fad?
FTAC2011
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Old McDonald right now
FTAC2011
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Old McDonald said:

Marcus Brutus said:

If it's just gender expression, why do tits and dicks get chopped off, which is biological?

It's pretty dang simple, 30 year old "millionaire". You born with a dick and xy, you're a man. XX and a vagina, a woman.

Gender expression is your term for mental illness.
i have no more business caring that someone undergoes that kind of surgery than i do a cis woman getting lipo or a cis man getting a hair transplant. their body their choice, not for me to judge.

not sure what me being a millionaire has to do with this topic, strange fixation you have on that when you reply to my posts


But if someone undergoes that surgery… are they now a woman?
ShaggySLC
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Tramp96 said:

Where have all the feminists gone?
They're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Piss off the letters crowd and then no one will like them or fight for their cause and be moved over to the deplorable side of the isle. It's actually hilarious to watch them sell out at the level of contempt towards actual women across the board. Trans men are now taking womans jobs and being counted as a woman hire at the White House, blowing out their records in sports, winning women's beauty pageants. Silence from the Fems outside a few that were promptly cancelled. Crazy time.
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