AlaskanAg99 said:

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gigemags-99 said:

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Well, that sucks.

I did read 1 Second After, so I'm probably prepared.

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IF it happens. Which hopefully it doesn't. I'd prefer to not die.

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You probably will. Most of us will die horribly in such a scenario. I would say maybe just 1% of the posters here would survive and that's a big maybe.

BAP Enthusiast said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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gigemags-99 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Faraday cage from an ammo can. Could be potentially useful.

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I would think having a working iPhone / device would be useless if everything else is down. What's the point? Serious question.

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They would all be useless. You would need the ability to generate power and shortwave radios for communication.

All of which would have to be locked away and secure from the effects of the solar storm. Then protected in the aftermath. Could you imagine running a generator? People would hear it and storm your location. Everything would have to be deep underground and detached from the modern grid, then brought back online after the storm event ended. Then kept secure from marauders.

Even then, you had have to live in a temperate climate, and have water resources and food resources to hunker down while society devolved and ate itself alive, before venturing back out to a wasteland.

And if you required any meds, your life would end horribly as they quickly ran out, plus not getting injured which could lead to infection and death. And if you managed to live, congrats, you're back in the 1700's and have to subsistence farm, probably with few allies, and scratch out a living.

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The overwhelming majority of people will die in the first year from starvation and/or debydration. Cities will become killing zones and no amount of preparation will help if you live in one. You will survive only by pure luck in a city.

If the electrical grid and all functioning electronics are wiped out then it's game over on modern civilization. That's pretty much it. Even people who have prepped for years will only survive if they are more than 2 hours outside of a major city (drive time) and only if they are capable of defending their land and growing their own food without any modern technology.

A devastating CME is a civilization killer, we will lose 6.5 billion in the first year alone.

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I think you're optimistic. In the US we'd lose 75% of people in the first month. Fouled water would be the major killer as disease and lack of meds for those needing it to sustain life. Entire cities would burn, lakes/water sources would be fouled by human waste and decaying bodies. Those in more rural areas would survive longer, but lack of life-sustaining meds, injuries and disease would also wipe them out. I can't imagine the nuclear winter that would happen due to all the cities burning out of control.

THEN starvation would start. The only upside is with most vehicles being out of commission and lack of fuel, people couldn't move quickly or far.

Also, I'd be dead pretty quick, I don't think the survivability of the Houston suburbs and lack of water would be assets. And those that did survive, probably not the ones you want around anyway.

BAP Enthusiast said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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gigemags-99 said:

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Well, that sucks.

I did read 1 Second After, so I'm probably prepared.

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IF it happens. Which hopefully it doesn't. I'd prefer to not die.

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You probably will. Most of us will die horribly in such a scenario. I would say maybe just 1% of the posters here would survive and that's a big maybe.

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You're talking to an Alaskan, based on username. I'd venture a guess he will be in that 1%

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TexAgs91 said:

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10thYrSr said:

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I don't really care about weather, I'm more concerned with a Carrington event

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It can happen, but it would have to be a pretty luck (or unlucky rather) shot to hit our tiny planet.

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This. Space is really really big, and we are a tiny, moving target.

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Yep.

But that being said...we've been hit before. Every now and again the universe gets lucky.

gigemags-99 said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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gigemags-99 said:

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Well, that sucks.

I did read 1 Second After, so I'm probably prepared.

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IF it happens. Which hopefully it doesn't. I'd prefer to not die.

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You probably will. Most of us will die horribly in such a scenario. I would say maybe just 1% of the posters here would survive and that's a big maybe.

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You're talking to an Alaskan, based on username. I'd venture a guess he will be in that 1%

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I'm in Houston. I'd be dead fairly quick, might last 2 months, but lack of water (depending on rain) and time of year may push that up. Depending on ability to move, but hauling water would be a huge issue.

I'm under no illusions about the ability to survive in that environment.

gigemags-99 said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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gigemags-99 said:

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Well, that sucks.

I did read 1 Second After, so I'm probably prepared.

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IF it happens. Which hopefully it doesn't. I'd prefer to not die.

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You probably will. Most of us will die horribly in such a scenario. I would say maybe just 1% of the posters here would survive and that's a big maybe.

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You're talking to an Alaskan, based on username. I'd venture a guess he will be in that 1%

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I'd be in that 1%

AlaskanAg99 said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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gigemags-99 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Faraday cage from an ammo can. Could be potentially useful.

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I would think having a working iPhone / device would be useless if everything else is down. What's the point? Serious question.

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They would all be useless. You would need the ability to generate power and shortwave radios for communication.

All of which would have to be locked away and secure from the effects of the solar storm. Then protected in the aftermath. Could you imagine running a generator? People would hear it and storm your location. Everything would have to be deep underground and detached from the modern grid, then brought back online after the storm event ended. Then kept secure from marauders.

Even then, you had have to live in a temperate climate, and have water resources and food resources to hunker down while society devolved and ate itself alive, before venturing back out to a wasteland.

And if you required any meds, your life would end horribly as they quickly ran out, plus not getting injured which could lead to infection and death. And if you managed to live, congrats, you're back in the 1700's and have to subsistence farm, probably with few allies, and scratch out a living.

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The overwhelming majority of people will die in the first year from starvation and/or debydration. Cities will become killing zones and no amount of preparation will help if you live in one. You will survive only by pure luck in a city.

If the electrical grid and all functioning electronics are wiped out then it's game over on modern civilization. That's pretty much it. Even people who have prepped for years will only survive if they are more than 2 hours outside of a major city (drive time) and only if they are capable of defending their land and growing their own food without any modern technology.

A devastating CME is a civilization killer, we will lose 6.5 billion in the first year alone.

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I think you're optimistic. In the US we'd lose 75% of people in the first month. Fouled water would be the major killer as disease and lack of meds for those needing it to sustain life. Entire cities would burn, lakes/water sources would be fouled by human waste and decaying bodies. Those in more rural areas would survive longer, but lack of life-sustaining meds, injuries and disease would also wipe them out. I can't imagine the nuclear winter that would happen due to all the cities burning out of control.

THEN starvation would start. The only upside is with most vehicles being out of commission and lack of fuel, people couldn't move quickly or far.

Also, I'd be dead pretty quick, I don't think the survivability of the Houston suburbs and lack of water would be assets. And those that did survive, probably not the ones you want around anyway.

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Based on this, I'm surprised man was ever able to make it as a species through about 1920 or so.

The world was set up completely differently. Everyone back then had a working knowledge of growing food and living with necessities instead of luxuries.

Today the vast majority of people out there couldn't grow kudzu (hahaha) and don't know how to deal with a harsh word much less the total collapse of everything they have ever seen.

DannyDuberstein said:

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We need common sense sun control.

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Seriously, with how deadly AR15's are, an AR3055 could wipe out the planet,

schmellba99 said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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gigemags-99 said:

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BusterAg said:

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Faraday cage from an ammo can. Could be potentially useful.

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I would think having a working iPhone / device would be useless if everything else is down. What's the point? Serious question.

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They would all be useless. You would need the ability to generate power and shortwave radios for communication.

All of which would have to be locked away and secure from the effects of the solar storm. Then protected in the aftermath. Could you imagine running a generator? People would hear it and storm your location. Everything would have to be deep underground and detached from the modern grid, then brought back online after the storm event ended. Then kept secure from marauders.

Even then, you had have to live in a temperate climate, and have water resources and food resources to hunker down while society devolved and ate itself alive, before venturing back out to a wasteland.

And if you required any meds, your life would end horribly as they quickly ran out, plus not getting injured which could lead to infection and death. And if you managed to live, congrats, you're back in the 1700's and have to subsistence farm, probably with few allies, and scratch out a living.

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The overwhelming majority of people will die in the first year from starvation and/or debydration. Cities will become killing zones and no amount of preparation will help if you live in one. You will survive only by pure luck in a city.

If the electrical grid and all functioning electronics are wiped out then it's game over on modern civilization. That's pretty much it. Even people who have prepped for years will only survive if they are more than 2 hours outside of a major city (drive time) and only if they are capable of defending their land and growing their own food without any modern technology.

A devastating CME is a civilization killer, we will lose 6.5 billion in the first year alone.

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I think you're optimistic. In the US we'd lose 75% of people in the first month. Fouled water would be the major killer as disease and lack of meds for those needing it to sustain life. Entire cities would burn, lakes/water sources would be fouled by human waste and decaying bodies. Those in more rural areas would survive longer, but lack of life-sustaining meds, injuries and disease would also wipe them out. I can't imagine the nuclear winter that would happen due to all the cities burning out of control.

THEN starvation would start. The only upside is with most vehicles being out of commission and lack of fuel, people couldn't move quickly or far.

Also, I'd be dead pretty quick, I don't think the survivability of the Houston suburbs and lack of water would be assets. And those that did survive, probably not the ones you want around anyway.

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Based on this, I'm surprised man was ever able to make it as a species through about 1920 or so.

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In 1920 the Houston population was ~138k.
Today it's 4.5M.

And as said above, entirely different skillsets and mindsets. Plus an age spread that's probably much smaller than it is today. Today without the water infrastructure running non-stop, without it, everything collapses and fast.

gigemags-99 said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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gigemags-99 said:

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Well, that sucks.

I did read 1 Second After, so I'm probably prepared.

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IF it happens. Which hopefully it doesn't. I'd prefer to not die.

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You probably will. Most of us will die horribly in such a scenario. I would say maybe just 1% of the posters here would survive and that's a big maybe.

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You're talking to an Alaskan, based on username. I'd venture a guess he will be in that 1%

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Given that he has internet access, he's not off the grid and likely has some reliance upon modern technology.

You're not truly on your own until you are capable of living entirely without modern civilization. Those are the only ones who will be capable of surviving.

so, we really do need to mirror out Kyle Field, funny how it all comes around

https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a40486004/space-bubbles-climate-change/

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MIT Scientists Propose 'Space Bubbles' to Deflect Solar Radiation, Ease Climate Change

A raft of thin-film silicon bubbles deployed from Earth into outer space and stretching to the size of Brazil could potentially block the Sun's solar radiation from further warming Earth, possibly helping to not only stave off climate change, but potentially reverse it.

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Saw this just the other day. I think it's a boondoggle for trying to control the climate (I think the real answer there is develop technology that allows us control over atmospheric pressure), but not a bad idea if it can protect against solar flares.

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jeremy said:

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My guess is the big event in May and subsequent sunspots are causing our excessive heat this summer. That and our drought.

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Man made climate change has always been a hoax. The solar cycles are likely directly effecting the situation on the ground here.

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So burning fossil fuels for centuries has had zero impact?

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Zero.

Nada.

Zilch.

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It's truly frightening how many people don't understand this. Climate change is one of the biggest hoaxes perpetrated on this earth.

It's going to be interesting when some of these people live another 40, 50, 60 years and find out that nothing changed. Nor will it in their grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's infinity lifetimes.

rgag12 said:

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Oh noes, are we all going to die again?

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mm98 said:

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A 6-4/250 pound guy with a SW Shield?

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Apparently.

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Climate change is one of the biggest hoaxes perpetrated on this earth.

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With covid nipping at its heels.

Great explanation. Thank you!

AgBQ-00 said:

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The world was set up completely differently. Everyone back then had a working knowledge of growing food and living with necessities instead of luxuries.

Today the vast majority of people out there couldn't grow kudzu (hahaha) and don't know how to deal with a harsh word much less the total collapse of everything they have ever seen.

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Even if you had a little knowledge of how to grow food, could you grow enough, quickly, to feed say, a family? And unless you live in country, people would come around and steal whatever you were growing.

I read this article in Wired, looks like this happens every 100 years or so. Not a big deal on a agricultural planet. Much bigger deal on one mostly reliant on electronics.

You are right. But if the whole community was growing then they could help one another. I can remember in the late 80's early 90's my grandad would grow a huge garden plot (~ an acre) of everything from peppers to okra to beans and potatoes. Pretty much anything he felt like growing. We enjoyed fresh produce from it a lot. But if he heard of a family that was struggling, he would pick bushels of veggies for them as they got ready to help the families in need.

But he was a kid during the depression and fighting age during WW2. It was more common back then for such things to happen. Even then there were more people who could deal in a community setting by pitching in.

BAP Enthusiast said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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gigemags-99 said:

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Well, that sucks.

I did read 1 Second After, so I'm probably prepared.

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IF it happens. Which hopefully it doesn't. I'd prefer to not die.

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You probably will. Most of us will die horribly in such a scenario. I would say maybe just 1% of the posters here would survive and that's a big maybe.

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It would mainly be lawyers roaming the post apocalyptic countryside offering their services to surviving enclaves desperate for legal skills.

Oh boy, more fear porn. Take off your masks and put on your foil hats now!

Been nice knowing y'all. Looks like this is it.

I'll take the ball picture

It's amazing how easy it is to get people afraid of life. Never fails.