Derek Chauvin was sentenced today to more than 20 years in a federal prison for "violating Floyd's rights"! That's in addition to the 22 1/2 years he got in April for the state charge of murder.

As part of the plea agreement, he will serve the entire sentence in a federal prison. As it is now, he's been in solitary confinement for his own protection since going to prison.

This is ridiculous. I guess abusive drug users now have the civil right of being able to be abusive drug users and fight legitimate police authority whenever they wish. Is that correct?

He should have-

1. Cuffed Floyd
2. Rolled him onto his back
3. Stood back
4. Let the Fentayl kick in
5. Watched mother nature take its course
6. Called for an ambulance
7. Go to IHOP for pancakes

Ridiculous. Biden is a Marxist totalitarian POS.

The fact that the left celebrates a worthless piece of crap like George Floyd tells you all you need to know about the left.

More than Putin for sure, the MSM and Rino's hsyteria notwithstanding.

Isn't this a form of double jeopardy?

I hope Chauvin finds the Lord in all this because he got screwed on this earth.

Not gonna lie, reading your first paragraph I thought you were excited he got sentenced further (until I got to the second paragraph).

IIRC, his defense attorneys proved that

the criminal was resisting arrest
the first cops to arrive weren't experienced enough and needed assistance from chauvin to show them how to properly restrain a defiant criminal of that size
he followed his MPD approved training with the prone position
the growing crowd was a threat and he could not move the criminal from the prone position until EMS and further assistance arrived
EMS was very late in arriving
the criminal had a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system
the criminal had recently almost died in the hospital from fentanyl OD
the coroner's report did not conclude the criminal died from asphyxiation (knee on back of neck)

I don't think this police officer should have ever been convicted of murder, but a corrupt and biased jury was fine with very poor prosecution. He will himself be murdered quite quickly if he ever gets put in gen pop while in prison.

Dont you dare say anything about Saint Fentanyl Floyld.

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he's been in solitary confinement for his own protection since going to prison.

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I expect that he will now be moved to Gen Pop very soon. The Dems/Libs are going to make sure that he will be killed in prison.

Another person and this one a cop that was wrongly convicted by the "justice" system.

I'm sure Chauvin was no choir singer but this convinction reeks of politically motivated garbage.

the world is a better place with out the POS floyd. to bad chaivin is paying the price for doing the world a favor.

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Isn't this a form of double jeopardy?

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No, this conviction is for the use of excessive force in two separate instances, Floyd and on a 14 year old boy. Chauvin pled guilty to it to avoid life in prison

How many civil lawsuits do these convictions lead to? Will they (the family/acquaintances) be content with millions from the city, PD, etc. Or will they go after Chauvin (personally), to finish him off?

I'm not sure you all are correct about the fentanyl part. At least the 'he was going to die anyway' may not be true. I understand the cops lawyer made that claim but…..

Don't get me wrong, I don't say that as a defense of the guy. But I seem to remember everyone hanging in that as a fact.

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More than Putin for sure, the MSM and Rino's hsyteria notwithstanding.

Isn't this a form of double jeopardy?

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Sadly, no it is not. Sentences will run concurrently with his 20+ years on the state charges. Difference being, a chance for parole on state charges but federal sentences don't allow for parole unless they qualify under Trump's First Step Act requirements.

Chauvin is likely an A-hole of a guy but there was a series of failures in EMS and dispatch that day of which Chauvin had no part.

Don't ever have a medical emergency in Minneapolis as their EMS service sucks balls.

George Floyd was, and I can't reiterate this enough, a drug addicted, wife beating piece of ****, and but for the BLM horse shot that followed, the world is a better place without him

F*** em both. Piece of s*** killed by a piece of s***. I won't lose sleep over either.

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Not gonna lie, reading your first paragraph I thought you were excited he got sentenced further (until I got to the second paragraph).

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I was genuinely shocked by it.

If you live in a liberal **** hole, do not be a cop. You've been warned.

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titan said:

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More than Putin for sure, the MSM and Rino's hsyteria notwithstanding.

Isn't this a form of double jeopardy?

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Sadly, no it is not. Sentences will run concurrently with his 20+ years on the state charges. Difference being, a chance for parole on state charges but federal sentences don't allow for parole unless they qualify under Trump's First Step Act requirements.

Chauvin is likely an A-hole of a guy but there was a series of failures in EMS and dispatch that day of which Chauvin had no part.

Don't ever have a medical emergency in Minneapolis as their EMS service sucks balls.

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I wondered if they would serve concurrently.

While the federal system doesn't have parole, can't he reduce the sentence by about 1/3 with good behavior?

Chauvin should serve a good amount of time in jail, but if it's anything close to 44 years (?), that's seems a little insane, at least when compared to other cases.

Aren't most first-time convicted murders out within 10 years or something?

The prosecution never even attempted to show Floyd was mistreated because of his race or racial animus. And no doubt they would've tried to incorporate that into the case if they had any evidence to show the jury.

Yet our entire society has been CRT revolutionized based on the faulty premise that Floyd died from racism.

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If you live in a liberal **** hole, do not be a cop. You've been warned.

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I've often said that if I was going to be a cop, I'd prefer to be a cop in a small town or a deputy sheriff in a small county.

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Chauvin should serve a good amount of time in jail, but if it's anything close to 44 years (?), that's seems a little much.

Aren't most first-time convicted murders out within 10 years or something?

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I knew a guy who got 26 years in prison after being convicted of embezzlement in a small store. The problem is that for him to do what they said, he would have had to embezzle nearly all gross receipts of the store where he worked for a year and a half. I have trouble believing that the owner could go that long without noticing that there was no money coming in. The owner, on the other hand, would allegedly go into the store, take the money from the cash registers, stuff it in his pockets, and leave.

Anyway, in the 20+ years he served in prison, he had a cellmate who was convicted of murder and had a prison sentence of about 8 years.

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I'm not sure you all are correct about the fentanyl part. At least the 'he was going to die anyway' may not be true. I understand the cops lawyer made that claim but…..

Don't get me wrong, I don't say that as a defense of the guy. But I seem to remember everyone hanging in that as a fact.

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Medical examiner said under any other circumstances (meaning not a highly politicized case) he would have ruled it an accidental overdose death. Massively enlarged heart with major occlusions of his arteries. He was complaining about not being able to breathe while standing upright, outside of the squad car. He was partially unconscious in the car before the police even got there. He was going in and out according to the passenger in the car with him.

Floyd had OD'd before and been hospitalized because of it. Just about a month and a half before that day. Five days in the hospital. And he had covid.

Oh and his dealer who sold him the drugs was also in the car at the time. He took the 5th and refused to testify but the jury never knew that because the judge (out of covid concerns) refused to allow him to be called and take the 5th in the trial. Can you say "reasonable doubt'?

I was certain that Chauvin was guilty based on the video alone. But the medical evidence never supported that conclusion. Not for causation of death being Chauvin's actions.

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Clown Baby said:

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Chauvin should serve a good amount of time in jail, but if it's anything close to 44 years (?), that's seems a little much.

Aren't most first-time convicted murders out within 10 years or something?

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I knew a guy who got 26 years in prison after being convicted of embezzlement in a small store. The problem is that for him to do what they said, he would have had to embezzle nearly all gross receipts of the store where he worked for a year and a half. I have trouble believing that the owner could go that long without noticing that there was no money coming in. The owner, on the other hand, would allegedly go into the store, take the money from the cash registers, stuff it in his pockets, and leave.

Anyway, in the 20+ years he served in prison, he had a cellmate who was convicted of murder and had a prison sentence of about 8 years.

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It makes absolutely no god-damn sense.

Marcus Brutus said:

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I hope Chauvin finds the Lord in all this because he got screwed on this earth.

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Yup - hope DeSantis or trump will pardon him. That's pretty much his only chance at justice.

Clown Baby said:

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Chauvin should serve a good amount of time in jail, but if it's anything close to 44 years (?), that's seems a little insane, at least when compared to other cases.

Aren't most first-time convicted murders out within 10 years or something?

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On state charges, that is possible.

Federal charges, no.

Whirligigs said:

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Marcus Brutus said:

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I hope Chauvin finds the Lord in all this because he got screwed on this earth.

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Yup - hope DeSantis or trump will pardon him. That's pretty much his only chance at justice.

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cities would burn again ... mostly peacefully of course.

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I'm not sure you all are correct about the fentanyl part. At least the 'he was going to die anyway' may not be true. I understand the cops lawyer made that claim but…..

Don't get me wrong, I don't say that as a defense of the guy. But I seem to remember everyone hanging in that as a fact.

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He had 3x the LETHAL limit in his system. He was in the process of dying.

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Whirligigs said:

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Marcus Brutus said:

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I hope Chauvin finds the Lord in all this because he got screwed on this earth.

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Yup - hope DeSantis or trump will pardon him. That's pretty much his only chance at justice.

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cities would burn again ... mostly peacefully of course.

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That's also why Chauvin's conviction in the state charges would never be reversed on appeal. Snowflake judges.

He pled guilty to federal charges, thus no appeal possible.

For those who didn't follow: Chauvin's technical error was holding a position approved for "transitory" use rather than escalating to a hobble restraint.

Floyd had been safely mostly in a patrol car, but talked his way back out: saying "I can't breathe" among other things. EMS was called for but was SUPER slow to get on scene. Floyd went combative and Cauvin got on top. According to the book - Chauvin should then have applied a hobble which would have been removed again once EMS arrived. Chauvin instead held that position (note: the book did NOT specify a maximum duration for "transitory"). Floyd went limp after ~4 min into this position. Chauvin maintained the hold for another 4+ min on an unconscious Floyd, while waiting for the delinquent EMS and watching bystanders.

aggiehawg said:

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agsalaska said:

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I'm not sure you all are correct about the fentanyl part. At least the 'he was going to die anyway' may not be true. I understand the cops lawyer made that claim but…..

Don't get me wrong, I don't say that as a defense of the guy. But I seem to remember everyone hanging in that as a fact.

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Medical examiner said under any other circumstances (meaning not a highly politicized case) he would have ruled it an accidental overdose death. Massively enlarged heart with major occlusions of his arteries. He was complaining about not being able to breathe while standing upright, outside of the squad car. He was partially unconscious in the car before the police even got there. He was going in and out according to the passenger in the car with him.

Floyd had OD'd before and been hospitalized because of it. Just about a month and a half before that day. Five days in the hospital. And he had covid.

Oh and his dealer who sold him the drugs was also in the car at the time. He took the 5th and refused to testify but the jury never knew that because the judge (out of covid concerns) refused to allow him to be called and take the 5th in the trial. Can you say "reasonable doubt'?

I was certain that Chauvin was guilty based on the video alone. But the medical evidence never supported that conclusion. Not for causation of death being Chauvin's actions.

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Yea, I'm on my phone right now, but two things.

1. I think that's a misleading statement by the medical examiner. At least it allows for multiple interpretations.

2. There are several medical folks, both private and public, that dispute it that he would have died anyway. That goes back to his first trial.

Pretty easy to dismiss that or say they have an agenda. But the same could be said for the medical examiner you referenced.

I think the 'he would have died anyway' has just been repeated to the point of it being true and anyone who disagrees is a BLM supporter or cop hater never mind their level of expertise.

Marcus Brutus said:

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agsalaska said:

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I'm not sure you all are correct about the fentanyl part. At least the 'he was going to die anyway' may not be true. I understand the cops lawyer made that claim but…..

Don't get me wrong, I don't say that as a defense of the guy. But I seem to remember everyone hanging in that as a fact.

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He had 3x the LETHAL limit in his system. He was in the process of dying.

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Don't think that is accurate. At least not according to several toxicologists that testified. Pretty sure that's another 'say it til it's true'