And you thought population migration to Texas was bad today.....

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Krombopulos Michael
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Wait and see what happens a year or so when Lake Mead runs below all the water intakes.

On the scene video with before and after shots on how fast the water is receding in Lake Mead.



Lake Mead - It is the largest reservoir in the US in terms of water capacity. Lake Mead provides water to the states of Arizona, California, and Nevada as well as some of Mexico, providing sustenance to nearly 20 million people and large areas of farmland.





The desert is great until you run out of water......
Marcus Brutus
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All those retirement communities in AZ with lush green golf courses are about to turn brown it seems.
PLUM LOCO
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Texas is great until it runs out of water.
HumpitPuryear
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There are 130 million Mexicans south of us and they import 45% of their food. West coast Americans are the least of our problems. We should have built the wall.
DallasAg 94
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spacemanspiff
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What's going on with the Lake? Just a drought or something else?
DallasAg 94
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Marcus Brutus
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HumpitPuryear said:

There are 130 million Mexicans south of us and they import 45% of their food. West coast Americans are the least of our problems. We should have built the wall.


Mead also supplies parts of Mexico with water.
Funky Winkerbean
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spacemanspiff said:

What's going on with the Lake? Just a drought or something else?

Yes.
A. G. Pennypacker
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Amazing how many boats have sunk in that lake.
A wealthy American industrialist looking to open a silver mine in the mountains of Peru.
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DallasAg 94 said:

PLUM LOCO said:

Texas is great until it runs out of water.
We just opened a new Reservoir. Bois d'Arc Lake.


It won't cure all, but will at least give us some help.

We have a second one in the wings opening in 2024.

Regarding Lake Mead, I'm not sure what the date is on OP videos but I recall reading a headline a couple of months ago that they received significant relief this year and it has filled back up. Have not confirmed that though. Maybe someone else can.
D_Wag97
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Maybe Musk's boring company can divert the Missouri or Yellowstone through the Rockies to the west.
Krombopulos Michael
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and barrels.....so many barrels.
Maroon Dawn
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Did you really think they'd let Republicans gain power in November without a preplanned crisis to collapse the system and push them into permanent dictatorial power?
techno-ag
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DallasAg 94 said:

PLUM LOCO said:

Texas is great until it runs out of water.
We just opened a new Reservoir. Bois d'Arc Lake.


It won't cure all, but will at least give us some help.

That's for Dallas. Username checks out.
Trump will fix it.
Get Off My Lawn
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spacemanspiff said:

What's going on with the Lake? Just a drought or something else?

Consumption is way up. The population (with it's current consumption) is unsustainable. They'll need to become much wiser about their water use, or offload some people. Probably should've jacked up prices a while ago.
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HumpitPuryear said:

There are 130 million Mexicans south of us and they import 45% of their food. West coast Americans are the least of our problems. We should have built the wall.

I'm going to go out on a limb and bet there's 100 million in Mexico and 30 million here already.
TAMU1990
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AnScAggie said:

HumpitPuryear said:

There are 130 million Mexicans south of us and they import 45% of their food. West coast Americans are the least of our problems. We should have built the wall.

I'm going to go out on a limb and bet there's 100 million in Mexico and 30 million here already.
Why isn't ANY politician stating the obvious? How are we going to pay for these people being here? Every single one of them is a net drain economically.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

spacemanspiff said:

What's going on with the Lake? Just a drought or something else?

Consumption is way up. The population (with it's current consumption) is unsustainable. They'll need to become much wiser about their water use, or offload some people. Probably should've jacked up prices a while ago.
Gavin just implemented the most restrictive water policy in their history about a month ago.
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Marcus Brutus said:

All those retirement communities in AZ with lush green golf courses are about to turn brown it seems.


California gets more water from the Colorado than Arizona according to the agreement. Golf courses are an easy target but lots of that water is irritating winter vegetables
YouBet
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GAC06 said:

Marcus Brutus said:

All those retirement communities in AZ with lush green golf courses are about to turn brown it seems.


California gets more water from the Colorado than Arizona according to the agreement. Golf courses are an easy target but lots of that water is irritating winter vegetables
Yes, this is going to be a problem for the entire US because California provides something like 40% of the country's fruits and vegetables.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

spacemanspiff said:

What's going on with the Lake? Just a drought or something else?

Consumption is way up.


Username checks out
RebelE91
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YouBet said:

DallasAg 94 said:

PLUM LOCO said:

Texas is great until it runs out of water.
We just opened a new Reservoir. Bois d'Arc Lake.


It won't cure all, but will at least give us some help.

We have a second one in the wings opening in 2024.

Regarding Lake Mead, I'm not sure what the date is on OP videos but I recall reading a headline a couple of months ago that they received significant relief this year and it has filled back up. Have not confirmed that though. Maybe someone else can.
Definitely did not fill back up. It's 185 feet below normal water level. It's taken two decades to get to the current water level and will take years of a changed prevailing weather pattern to bring it back to full. And of course the weather pattern hasn't changed yet.

Lake Mead water level
Traces of Texas
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I've got a hydrologist friend who have been working for decades in West Texas, measuring soil moisture content etc.. He told me that the Chihuahuan desert is expanding to the east and that within a few decades Austin will look more like San Angelo.
YouBet
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RebelE91 said:

YouBet said:

DallasAg 94 said:

PLUM LOCO said:

Texas is great until it runs out of water.
We just opened a new Reservoir. Bois d'Arc Lake.


It won't cure all, but will at least give us some help.

We have a second one in the wings opening in 2024.

Regarding Lake Mead, I'm not sure what the date is on OP videos but I recall reading a headline a couple of months ago that they received significant relief this year and it has filled back up. Have not confirmed that though. Maybe someone else can.
Definitely did not fill back up. It's 185 feet below normal water level. It's taken two decades to get to the current water level and will take years of a changed prevailing weather pattern to bring it back to full. And of course the weather pattern hasn't changed yet.

Lake Mead water level
That ain't good.
clobby
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They changed some stuff up this year to allow more water into Mead but I believe the BOR prioritizes Powell first.
GCRanger
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Cali better start fast tracking desalination plants, but they won't.
GAC06
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YouBet said:

GAC06 said:

Marcus Brutus said:

All those retirement communities in AZ with lush green golf courses are about to turn brown it seems.


California gets more water from the Colorado than Arizona according to the agreement. Golf courses are an easy target but lots of that water is irritating winter vegetables
Yes, this is going to be a problem for the entire US because California provides something like 40% of the country's fruits and vegetables.


A lot of it comes from the Central Valley which has its own water issues, but the imperial valley is wholly supplied by the Colorado and produces a large proportion of our lettuce and other winter vegetables plus a lot of alfalfa
GAC06
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GCRanger said:

Cali better start fast tracking desalination plants, but they won't.


That's an interesting problem since a lot of the area needing water and suitable for farming isn't that close to a coast. Unless you're talking about plants to supply L.A.
UTExan
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Part of this is methods of agricultural use. Using applications such as sprinklers for irrigation in a water-challenged environment can be replaced with lower pressure drip irrigation, which costs a lot up front and incurs labor costs due to maintenance. But the upside is that evaporation is much less, particularly in the desert southwest. Since government is in the business of giving tax breaks for economic activity, they could give farmers a tax break on installation of the micro-irrigation infrastructure.
I don't know what water practices farmers in west Texas and the panhandle are following these days, but our Great Basin farmers are using the industrial style sprinkler systems in 100 degree heat in midday.
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aggiehawg
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Pardon my ignorance but is water the only problem here? What about electricity generation?
Not a Bot
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The international markets (China) and big farming/investors are still driving land conversion to water-heavy crops like almonds in California. Everyone knows how bad this is for water efficiency but the farming lobby is going all-in on making sure California keeps the highly-profitable nut farming going. 80% of California almonds are exported to foreign markets.
aggiehawg
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but the farming lobby is going all-in on making sure California keeps the highly-profitable nut farming going.
They do have a lot of nuts in California.
GAC06
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Not a lot of water going to orchards from the Colorado. That's Central Valley, not Imperial Valley
CSTXAg92
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Traces of Texas said:

I've got a hydrologist friend who have been working for decades in West Texas, measuring soil moisture content etc.. He told me that the Chihuahuan desert is expanding to the east and that within a few decades Austin will look more like San Angelo.


Austin's water source is lake Travis. It wasn't that long ago - 7-8 years or so that is was dangerously low. The Austin area population has increased significantly since then. I'm guessing water supply will actually become a limiting factor to the area's growth over the next 10-20 years.
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