How did the Sunday shows cover the Kavanaugh assassination attempt?

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aggiehawg
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They didn't except for Fox.



And Karl Rove got into a heated exchange with Juan Williams over it as well.

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BAIER: I was struck, and I said this to Senator Coons, about the lack of talking about this threat to Justice Kavanaugh in the coverage of it as compared to if this had been a liberal justice with a Trump supporter gone wacko outside their house.

ROVE: Absolutely. I mean, this is -- look, this is sort of personal. I know Ashley and Brett Kavanaugh personally from our time together in the White House. And I -- it's amazing to me. The law is clear, you quoted it. It goes on to say "with the intent of influencing any judge." And I love it, the American Civil Liberties Union says, yes, this is the statue but we interpret it the following way. We point to a Supreme Court case that suggests that as long as they keep moving in front of the house -- if they are stationary, they should be arrested but if they are moving in front of the house they have a right to try and influence a Supreme Court justice. And that is ridiculous. And if it is true, I didn't see Senator Schumer moving very much behind that microphone in front of the U.S. Supreme Court where he had a clear intent of influencing a Supreme Court justice.

So we either ought to apply the law or we ought to just simply say it's open season judges, because that's what we're doing.

WILLIAMS: Well, I think you have a right to protest. I think you have...

ROVE: Yes, but not in front of their house.

WILLIAMS: Wait, you have a right to protest anywhere in America. Now clearly these people should not be violent and they should not threaten. But the idea that they are influencing -- I don't think it's about the influence. I think it's about a Supreme Court that has become radical and extremist and activist and is going to put out a decision that's going to, believe me, polarize this country...

ROVE: So because...

(CROSSTALK)

WILLIAMS: ... undo 50 years of law.

ROVE: So because you disagree with a prospective decision, you think they have -- people have a right to show up in front of a house and then try and intimidate a judge to change their opinion?

WILLIAMS: I -- no.

ROVE: And how about any case in America?

WILLIAMS: No.

ROVE: Would you defend everybody...

(CROSSTALK)

WILLIAMS: I didn't see the...

ROVE: ... in front of every judge and say, my God...

WILLIAMS: Karl...

ROVE: ... if you decide one way or the other...

WILLIAMS: Karl...

ROVE: ... you know, you deserve my -- me protesting in front of your house? Forget it, that's intimidation.

WILLIAMS: Karl, no, it's not.

ROVE: That's banana-style republic.

WILLIAMS: Karl, first of all, this guy was suicidal and is there is no excusing him. And he's...

ROVE: No, no, I'm not talking about him.

WILLIAMS: What we're talking about...

ROVE: I'm talking about those people who were up in front of...

(CROSSTALK)

WILLIAMS: No, Karl, wait a second.

ROVE: ... attempting to intimidate a judge.

WILLIAMS: Karl...

(CROSSTALK)

WILLIAMS: Karl, just a second. But I'm saying that we as Americans all have a right to express our upset with undoing 50 years of law with regard to abortion. It's an attack on rights. Rights.

BAIER: OK. But for the groups that published the addresses of the conservative justices...

WILLIAMS: That's unnecessary. And, you know what, I think everyone sitting at this table has had people demonstrate or come to their door and it's unsettling, nobody is defending it. But the right to protest is essential to America.

ROVE: Fine, but not in front of their house. Go have them protest in...

WILLIAMS: I'm just telling you in politics that's a reality.

ROVE: Yes, well, it's not a good reality.
techno-ag
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W2G Karl. "The Architect." Enjoy his columns in the WSJ.
Trump will fix it.
aggiehawg
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I wish there was a way to give electric shocks to Juan everytime he flat out lies.

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WILLIAMS: Wait, you have a right to protest anywhere in America. Now clearly these people should not be violent and they should not threaten. But the idea that they are influencing -- I don't think it's about the influence. I think it's about a Supreme Court that has become radical and extremist and activist and is going to put out a decision that's going to, believe me, polarize this country...
Not when there is a federal statute saying you do not, idiot Juan. Oh and if theta right to protest anywhere in America include the Capitol? Because people are sitting in jail right now for that.

Fox got rid of nincompoop Bechtel they really need to jettison Juan. He's too stupid and just lies all of the time, never prepares.
Maroon Dawn
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Why can't leftists just be honest and say they support 3rd world banana republik politics where thugs of the regime are free to do whatever they want to trample the rights of those who oppose them without consequence
Proc92
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Maroon Dawn said:

Why can't leftists just be honest and say they support 3rd world banana republik politics where thugs of the regime are free to do whatever they want to trample the rights of those who oppose them without consequence
Because they don't need to. They are winning.
Funky Winkerbean
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There's no bias in media and even if there was it's no big deal!
ABATTBQ87
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Video of the discussion

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/06/12/karl-rove-goes-off-on-juan-williams-over-threat-to-kavanaughs-life-its-open-season-on-judges-1249381/
MouthBQ98
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Call them the liars that they are boldly and publicly. Or gaslighters. Label them. Make them defend their lies.
aggiehawg
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Thanks for the assist. I looked but couldn't find the clip.
goatchze
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If a court is simply reversing a previous decision..

…is it really undoing 50 years of "law"?
annie88
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Apparently Nancy Pelosi said they are protected and got pissy when asked about it. But I can tell you what. If this had been one of the liberals SCOTUS judges this would be all over the news and every piece of **** Democrat in office would be harping on it.

Look how they still whine and ***** about January 6.
“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
aggiehawg
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goatchze said:

If a court is simply reversing a previous decision..

…is it really undoing 50 years of "law"?
Reversing a previous decision by SCOTUS happens. But Juan is conflating different things. Roe and Casey established some legal guardrails. It was up to the states to pass laws within those guardrails and many states have passed many different laws since then. Not a one size fits all approach.

So fifty years of law is misleading.
cmag
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Why is there federal statute protecting judges from protestors? I assume there's no such statute for Congress. Are we to assume Congressmens' stances can't be swayed by a rowdy crowd? Seems like if they have to deal with their impact on the people, judges should have to deal with the same.
BMX Bandit
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Public sentiment does and should play a role in legislation.

Completely different than judiciary. Public opinion is supposed to be irrelevant
AzAg80
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aggiehawg said:

I wish there was a way to give electric shocks to Juan everytime he flat out lies.

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WILLIAMS: Wait, you have a right to protest anywhere in America. Now clearly these people should not be violent and they should not threaten. But the idea that they are influencing -- I don't think it's about the influence. I think it's about a Supreme Court that has become radical and extremist and activist and is going to put out a decision that's going to, believe me, polarize this country...
Not when there is a federal statute saying you do not, idiot Juan. Oh and if theta right to protest anywhere in America include the Capitol? Because people are sitting in jail right now for that.

Fox got rid of nincompoop Bechtel they really need to jettison Juan. He's too stupid and just lies all of the time, never prepares.
I will no longer watch panel discussions that include someone from the Left. I would change my mind if they could find someone who is truthful, intelligent, and level headed, but then again such a person would not be on the Left would they. Fox News Sunday is the only one I care to watch.
aggiehawg
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BMX Bandit said:

Public sentiment does and should play a role in legislation.

Completely different than judiciary. Public opinion is supposed to be irrelevant
Exactly.
BoerneGator
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Juan Williams is, and always has been, but a token placeholder in the name of balanced coverage. He has always been a disengenuous gaslighter. I no longer listen to him.
aggiehawg
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BoerneGator said:

Juan Williams is, and always has been, but a token placeholder in the name of balanced coverage. He has always been a disengenuous gaslighter. I no longer listen to him.
I am so glad he was kicked off of The Five. Much better show without him.
Actual Talking Thermos
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aggiehawg said:

BMX Bandit said:

Public sentiment does and should play a role in legislation.

Completely different than judiciary. Public opinion is supposed to be irrelevant
Exactly.
Then places like Texas where we have elected judges are clearly doing it wrong, yes?
BMX Bandit
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What does that have to do with the point?

Protesting at a judge house different than legislator. Even with elected judges, public opinion should not influence the Judge on what the law is.
aggiehawg
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ActualTalkingThermos said:

aggiehawg said:

BMX Bandit said:

Public sentiment does and should play a role in legislation.

Completely different than judiciary. Public opinion is supposed to be irrelevant
Exactly.
Then places like Texas where we have elected judges are clearly doing it wrong, yes?
Under the Tenth Amendment, Texas and any other state can set up their state judiciary in the manner they wish.

Federal judiciary is completely different with lifetime appointments for exactly that reason.
annie88
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The "Ruth sent us" is pretty bad too.

“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
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