Question for the liberals. Besides passing more gun control laws what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

Question for you conservative gun owners. Besides more guns, what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

I think we are going to have to get creative to stop these.

Stop prescribing every other kid ADHD medication while they are still developing

Human Being said:

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Question for the liberals. Besides passing more gun control laws what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

Question for you conservative gun owners. Besides more guns, what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

I think we are going to have to get creative to stop these.

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Why?

DrEvazanPhD said:

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Stop prescribing every other kid ADHD medication while they are still developing

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I think that should definitely be looked into. Good potential solution.

Start parenting kids and punishing bad behavior at a young age.

Mental health solutions. There is going to be a correlation with all these shootings from the COVID lockdown and the lack of relationships and community throughout the whole ordeal. People that were already sick have fallen into a deeper hole that comes out in the worst of evil.

Not sure how feasible, but fund police departments to put permanent officers on campuses. I'm sure there is all sorts of financial waste in districts from where the money could be shifted

baron_von_awesome said:

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Human Being said:

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Question for the liberals. Besides passing more gun control laws what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

Question for you conservative gun owners. Besides more guns, what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

I think we are going to have to get creative to stop these.

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Why?

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Because solutions that piss both sides off aren't going to do the job. We need other ideas dontcha think?

Let teachers be armed, the same teachers are armed when not at school...it makes no sense.

Stop stigmatizing and attacking traditions and morals that build strong family and community. Stop trying to make boys be like girls in demeanor and action.

Human Being said:

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baron_von_awesome said:

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Human Being said:

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Question for the liberals. Besides passing more gun control laws what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

Question for you conservative gun owners. Besides more guns, what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

I think we are going to have to get creative to stop these.

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Why?

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Because solutions that piss both sides off aren't going to do the job. We need other ideas dontcha think?

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No, I don't care about pissing off the liberals.

Invest in boys. Promote boyhood and manhood. Reinforce natural male characteristics. Stop telling boys gender is fluid.

At the very least stop divesting in boys.

Stop idolizing identify politics
Bring real punishment back to bad actors.

It's not going to stop. Schools are easy targets. Even if they outlaw guns.

I think parents need to go nuts and demand the school take more action against kids with huge red flags. I'm not talking about the kid who has a hunting rifle pic on fb, I'm talking about the kid dressed in all black saying he's going to kill everyone and taking pictures of guns and magazines. You can see all of these shootings coming a mile away.

Normalize sending the mentally infirm to sanitarium/asylums again. Also, stop making every mental health illness something to be celebrated instead of treated.

Human Being said:

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Question for the liberals. Besides passing more gun control laws what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

Question for you conservative gun owners. Besides more guns, what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

I think we are going to have to get creative to stop these.

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Dont follow the rationale you can't comment on both sides. I voted for Biden which makes me a HUGE liberal on F16, but I am a gun owner and lifetime NRA member.

The answer is in part improved access to mental health resources. Most of these criminals are damaged in this area. There are no easy answers for problem, but I can't help but think criminal charges and civil damages for those who could have stopped it and did not is part of solution. For example, parents of minors who supply gun, ignore clear warning signs, etc. That's a hard line to walk though, I'm not in favor of thought police and burden of proof would need to be high.

redline248 said:

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Not sure how feasible, but fund police departments to put permanent officers on campuses. I'm sure there is all sorts of financial waste in districts from where the money could be shifted

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There is absolutely a way to make schools secure. They don't have many shootings in prisons do they? Problems is I don't think we want our kids going to school in lockdown, but we should make the schools more secure than they are. It's not good enough.

Real answer: there is no way to realistically stop school shootings from happening. There are like 340,000,000 people in this country. If there are even 340 people out there at any given time who are ****ed up enough to do something like shoot up a school and are actually determined to do it, a few of them will figure out a way, period.

And unfortunately there are probably a whole lot more than 340 people in this country who are ****ed in the head enough to do something like this.

Human Being said:

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redline248 said:

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Not sure how feasible, but fund police departments to put permanent officers on campuses. I'm sure there is all sorts of financial waste in districts from where the money could be shifted

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There is absolutely a way to make schools secure. They don't have many shootings in prisons do they? Problems is I don't think we want our kids going to school in lockdown, but we should make the schools more secure than they are. It's not good enough.

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The idea of locking down a school during an event probably also needs to be reconsidered. We get kids out for fires, get them out of the building. Designate places to run.

TXAGFAN said:

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Human Being said:

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Question for the liberals. Besides passing more gun control laws what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

Question for you conservative gun owners. Besides more guns, what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

I think we are going to have to get creative to stop these.

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Dont follow the rationale you can't comment on both sides. I voted for Biden which makes me a HUGE liberal on F16, but I am a gun owner and lifetime NRA member.

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Voting for Biden doesn't make you a liberal on F16, it makes you a communist. And the NRA is just a slush fund for LaPierre at this point.

I think schools should have a alert system if there is a nearby police chase in case the dude running from the cops decides to go to the school. All doors automatically lock.

I agree with the above about not giving kids brain altering medications.

If it's a kid doing the shooting, charge the parents for not securing the gun

Mandatory minimums for any crime committed while in possession of a gun

TXAGFAN said:

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Human Being said:

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Question for the liberals. Besides passing more gun control laws what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

Question for you conservative gun owners. Besides more guns, what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

I think we are going to have to get creative to stop these.

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Dont follow the rationale you can't comment on both sides. I voted for Biden which makes me a HUGE liberal on F16, but I am a gun owner and lifetime NRA member.

The answer is in part improved access to mental health resources. Most of these criminals are damaged in this area. There are no easy answers for problem, but I can't help but think criminal charges and civil damages for those who could have stopped it and did not is part of solution. For example, parents of minors who supply gun, ignore clear warning signs, etc. That's a hard line to walk though, I'm not in favor of thought police and burden of proof would need to be high.

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I appreciate your input. I'm trying to think if we do this with any other types of crime. Do we hold other people accountable? I'm not saying I'm against it just wondering out loud.

Stop offering solutions for problems that don't exist.

School shootings are not a problem in America. Guns are not a problem in America. Violence is barely a problem in America.

This country has coasted on easy mode from almost day 1. People keep finding problems and making solutions for them for some reason.

This is true as well. Our politicians can't say that out loud though...but it's probably true.

DargelSkout said:

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Start parenting kids and punishing bad behavior at a young age.

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Stop punishing the victim and the kids that finally stand up for themselves when they muster up the courage to confront the bully.

When this is happeninf kids who follow the rules then feel (rightly) like the system is set up to protect their tormentors.

If they stand up for themselves they get punished the same as the bullies, so not only do they get hurt by the bullies they get gurt by the people who ARE SUPPOSED to be protecting them.

They see this and decide that the system is FUBAR amd decide the only way out is to act so far out of the system that the system breaks.

You never saw **** like this when teachers punished the person that threw the first punch. Or when gym teachers would let two boys settle a dispute by putting on a pair of gloves in gym.

Human Being said:

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Question for the liberals. Besides passing more gun control laws what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

Question for you conservative gun owners. Besides more guns, what are your solutions to stop school shootings?

I think we are going to have to get creative to stop these.

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Unfortunately it's going to take money.

We always talk about mental health but never do ****all to address it. We need to pour money and resources into mental healthcare in the USA. Build more treatment centers, expand access, destigmatize mental illness and seeking treatment for it. Fund behavioral threat assessment programs. Ensure states and communities have mental health professionals for emergency situations and other critical situations. So many mentally ill people do not have the means to afford mental healthcare. That is a huge problem.

It takes money and resources. It's also going to require funding for research at the CDC. Something's gotta give.

Arm teachers that aren't giant snatches and are willing to be armed.

1: Stop announcing their name and posting their picture/social media accounts. Do your damndest to make sure they receive no recognition whatsoever. I understand this is impossible without passing legislation, which in principle I don't support but I'm so fed up with the media for making these people famous in almost at the point of supporting anyway.

2: At least one armed individual with some form of training in mass shooter events in every public school. More for larger schools. Ideally law enforcement or former military.

3: If your kid commits a gun offense with your weapon and it was not stored appropriately, you are held liable in criminal court in all but the most unique scenarios.

4: Every person who enters a school during the school day should have to show an ID and be checked for weapons by above armed individual.

5: I could be talked into arming certain teachers but you'd need to give me very strict and specific criteria for who gets the guns.

I don't get the OP's premise. Other than more guns how do we stop someone with a gun? The cold hard truth is if he's armed and you're not your life is already over unless someone else intervenes to save you. We aren't going to end gun violence in any particular place by disarming law abiding citizens. I don't like the idea that a teacher in a classroom might one day have to shoot back but I like that idea a hell of a lot more than what we have now which is a situation where all bullets are flying one way. I carry everywhere I go, not because I want to be in that situation one day but because if I ever am only I can save my life. The very idea of gun free zones is absurd. Gun free zones are shooting galleries.

Armed security at whatever entrances are open and something like a panic button that disables the gunman with smoke, water, something... If he were able to get past that. Paid for by the nra

Less Media

Media coverage keeps seeding the idea to bitter psychopaths.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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1: Stop announcing their name and posting their picture/social media accounts. Do your damndest to make sure they receive no recognition whatsoever. I understand this is impossible without passing legislation, which in principle I don't support but I'm so fed up with the media for making these people famous in almost at the point of supporting anyway.

2: At least one armed individual with some form of training in mass shooter events in every public school. More for larger schools. Ideally law enforcement or former military.

3: If your kid commits a gun offense with your weapon and it was not stored appropriately, you are held liable in criminal court in all but the most unique scenarios.

4: Every person who enters a school during the school day should have to show an ID and be checked for weapons by above armed individual.

5: I could be talked into arming certain teachers but you'd need to give me very strict and specific criteria for who gets the guns.

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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1: Stop announcing their name and posting their picture/social media accounts. Do your damndest to make sure they receive no recognition whatsoever. I understand this is impossible without passing legislation, which in principle I don't support but I'm so fed up with the media for making these people famous in almost at the point of supporting anyway.

2: At least one armed individual with some form of training in mass shooter events in every public school. More for larger schools. Ideally law enforcement or former military.

3: If your kid commits a gun offense with your weapon and it was not stored appropriately, you are held liable in criminal court in all but the most unique scenarios.

4: Every person who enters a school during the school day should have to show an ID and be checked for weapons by above armed individual.

5: I could be talked into arming certain teachers but you'd need to give me very strict and specific criteria for who gets the guns.

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Mostly good thoughts. To be fair re: #1, I hear the shooter's name less and less often now. I couldnt tell you the Buffalo shooter's name.

#2 makes me ****ing sick that we are at a point where we have to do this but I guess we have to play the cards we're dealt now.

#5 may sound good in theory but it will cause more problems than it will solve.

PascalsWager said:

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Stop offering solutions for problems that don't exist.

School shootings are not a problem in America. Guns are not a problem in America. Violence is barely a problem in America.

This country has coasted on easy mode from almost day 1. People keep finding problems and making solutions for them for some reason.

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A truly staggering and offensive level of denial right here.