Benjamin Franklin gave instructions on at-home abortions in a book
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And this is relevant because?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
And Trump loves the rona shot. Doesn't mean we 100% agree with everything they say/believe.
I thought it was interesting considering the current supreme court topics?
It has no bearing on that outcome but it is an interesting piece of history.
It has no bearing on that outcome but it is an interesting piece of history.
And then?boboguitar said:
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/1099542962/abortion-ben-franklin-roe-wade-supreme-court-leak
Why am I forced to pay for propaganda from NPR?
**** NPR. And Ben Franklin is dead. He can't kill anymore babies.
He also owned slaves.
Boom. Cancelled.
Boom. Cancelled.
Franklin was also about half ass scoundrel... WGAF?
Ben Franklin was a complete man-***** the whole time he was hanging out in Paris, so I'm not surprised he would have penned such a book.
Ben was no modern day Evangelical Republican. He slung some peepee around and liked French hookers. Knowing how to induce abortions of unwanted pregnancies was probably some knowledge that he had to lean on several times throughout the course of his life.
Wooden coat hanger?
Man, thats rough.
Man, thats rough.
Rapier108 said:
And this is relevant because?
Because he was anti-Planned Parenthood, dummy.
The trick was getting them to hold onto his key, which a kite had made off with, during a storm.
These things were around well before Franklin
Midwives had their own recipes to expel a fetus that had stopped growing in the womb as early as the 9th century
Midwives had their own recipes to expel a fetus that had stopped growing in the womb as early as the 9th century
Is suppression of menstruation the same as abortion now? There seems to be a lot of logical leaps in this article.
2+2=5
Interesting. Not that Franklin was a conservative or anything.
Thoughts on Margaret Sanger and her organization Planned Parenthood which has the main purpose of making sure we don't have too many blacks in the US ?
Thoughts on Margaret Sanger and her organization Planned Parenthood which has the main purpose of making sure we don't have too many blacks in the US ?
Wasn't Franklin transgender as part of the Whig Party? 
That's very out of context.
"Missed courses" can be for lots of reasons, not just pregnancy. IF "abortion" was one of the intended uses, it would not have been mentioned, discussed, nor approved.
And let's be clear. "Medicinal home remedies" are very, very different from a modern medical techniques.
a) The home remedies undoubtedly were largely ineffective, and...
b)any effectiveness was just as likely to be useful as a "morning after" remedy.
This has NOTHING to do with allowing fetuses to be murdered after viability or detectable heartbeat. Nothing.
So...
Sure, let's make Franklin's "remedy" legal if you want... Has nothing to do with the current debate.
And given other modern "remedies" there is absolutely no reason, at all, for any woman to be pregnant unless she chooses to be.
"Missed courses" can be for lots of reasons, not just pregnancy. IF "abortion" was one of the intended uses, it would not have been mentioned, discussed, nor approved.
And let's be clear. "Medicinal home remedies" are very, very different from a modern medical techniques.
a) The home remedies undoubtedly were largely ineffective, and...
b)any effectiveness was just as likely to be useful as a "morning after" remedy.
This has NOTHING to do with allowing fetuses to be murdered after viability or detectable heartbeat. Nothing.
So...
Sure, let's make Franklin's "remedy" legal if you want... Has nothing to do with the current debate.
And given other modern "remedies" there is absolutely no reason, at all, for any woman to be pregnant unless she chooses to be.
Murdering babies is something Hitler did. And someone is a political zealot to say otherwise.Carolin_Gallego said:
Abortion is deeply rooted in our nation's history and Alito is a political hack to say otherwise.
Absolutely appalling.
popcorn.gifCarolin_Gallego said:
Abortion is deeply rooted in our nation's history and Alito is a political hack to say otherwise.
So was slavery... doesn't make either one right. Does it?
Evil is Evil regardless of when or who commits it.
So you want to kill babies?
boboguitar said:
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/1099542962/abortion-ben-franklin-roe-wade-supreme-court-leak
Also was probably fine with slavery and killing off the red man. Your pt?
Quote:
It's not a baby
Complete and utter horse *****
Our most recent SCOTUS appointmentee couldn't define a woman but you're qualified to make this determination?
Tanya 93 said:
These things were around well before Franklin
Midwives had their own recipes to expel a fetus that had stopped growing in the womb as early as the 9th century
As you probably know, that's not abortion, as by definition you can't abort a life that has already been terminated. Just throwing that out there as I have seen a lot of feminists lately saying that if abortion is banned, women will begin dying left and right because no one will be allowed to treat them after miscarriage. Which is absolutely f-ing absurd…so, par for the course for white liberal feminazis.
Do we love the founding fathers or hate them?
Such a vile and disgusting poster. Why cheer on the mutilation and death of the unborn? If ever I supported abortion, it missed a great opportunity with you.
Carolin_Gallego said:
Abortion is deeply rooted in our nation's history and Alito is a political hack to say otherwise.
Deeply rooted in our nations history? I bet if you polled the people back then the vast majority would be against child murder, in the womb or out of it.
So at what age should the girl be able to decide she is mature enough to make the decision to abort her fetus?
LOL, boboguitar having to reach on his gotcha posts lately.
I am just saying this was easily available if a woman believed she was pregnant and did not want anotherBoo Weekley said:Tanya 93 said:
These things were around well before Franklin
Midwives had their own recipes to expel a fetus that had stopped growing in the womb as early as the 9th century
As you probably know, that's not abortion, as by definition you can't abort a life that has already been terminated. Just throwing that out there as I have seen a lot of feminists lately saying that if abortion is banned, women will begin dying left and right because no one will be allowed to treat them after miscarriage. Which is absolutely f-ing absurd…so, par for the course for white liberal feminazis.
The midwife knowing about this had a cover
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