A&M Athletics goes full blown woke

The new president has definitely shut a lot of the woke BS crap down, but done so quietly. The woke English profs and others are still teaching.

There are a ton of woke students so that will never go away. I have a son there now and he listens to Jordan Peterson all the time, as do a lot of his friends. I think COVID was a wake up call for a lot of young people, but you will never hear about that in the media.

As long as a fair portion of the students who already received preliminary indoctrination in public schools demand to be virtue signaled to and demand continued indoctrination into the religious rites of the cult of woke, the university will accommodate.

A&M has been for years now. Think back to what All U night used to be and how risk management took over after bonfire fell, there's been a slow but steady leftward push for a long time. Going woke is just another step.

> Is A&M Woke too?

Welcome to the party pal. Yes, A&M is woke, and will become more and more woke every year until Aggies decide to save our university... which, like any new thing the right needs to do that requires organization, will not happen.

yes

my nephew is an engineering student at A&M, he sent my brother a screenshot of a question from his calculus homework:

"the speed of a moving train follows the function f(t) = 3t^2, calculate the function representing the acceleration of the train if the conductor has an unconscious bias against black people"

truly dark times we're living in

As far as the student body, it is predominantly not, by population. However the wokiest of the woke will continue to be the loudest and most obnoxious.

We told ours when they went to A&M to give the prof what he wants on paper, but dont believe their BS. Most of their profs were good! I think the youngest ('15) had more liberal profs and they were more blatant in their feelings in the class. Glad they were not influenced by the libs.
I thought 3/4 of my profs at Rice were arseholes back in the 70s. So really nothing has changed in some ways

Fish orientation was woke AF a couple years ago when my kids went. All the student "leaders" introduced themselves with their pronouns. It was laughably stupid.

Easy answer: check the ratio of Arts degrees vs Science degrees. If Science isn't clearly dominant, then woke is present.

This is a pretty safe metric because the pool of candidates for Arts professorships are absolutely dominated by leftists. The only exceptions are places like Liberty or Hillsdale who publish their mission of being conservative.

A&M used to be a place that you went to because you wanted to.

Now it's a place where a sizeable portion of the general student body is recruited or, at least, auto accepted due to the top 10 percent rule.

So you have a lot of kids who don't really want to be there and never will. And they are hell-bent on changing it, or at least complaining about it. The 2 percenters now make up about 40 percent.

Which -- again -- makes me wonder why the official A&M Twitter account follows almost every single one of these kids, pushing their tweets into non-follower timelines and giving them so much more visibility.

It's almost like a purposeful strategy to undermine A&M culture. Hmmm ...

Old McDonald said:

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my nephew is an engineering student at A&M, he sent my brother a screenshot of a question from his calculus homework:

"the speed of a moving train follows the function f(t) = 3t^2, calculate the function representing the acceleration of the train if the conductor has an unconscious bias against black people"

truly dark times we're living in

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It's there but it really comes down to what kids were taught before they left home. What were their core beliefs? Core values? This imo determined a lot of how much the woke or liberals impact how they think.

This month our 3rd and final child is graduating from A&M. I don't think any of them would be considered "woke" but they definitely have refined their own core beliefs and values and made them their own.

I went to fish camp in 2013 and it had already turned into a woke indoctrination camp. For all they hype, it was not a good experience at all.

I wish I would have gone to Impact instead.

Old McDonald said:

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my nephew is an engineering student at A&M, he sent my brother a screenshot of a question from his calculus homework:

"the speed of a moving train follows the function f(t) = 3t^2, calculate the function representing the acceleration of the train if the conductor has an unconscious bias against black people"

truly dark times we're living in

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Then post it

SoupNazi2001 said:

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Who has kids there now. Are they being taught indoctrinated with all this same crap right now? Any hope left for colleges?

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What is "all this same crap" to you?

I'm sure Old Army was complaining about how woke A&M and Rudder were after he let minorities and women enroll.

icrymyselftosleep said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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Who has kids there now. Are they being taught indoctrinated with all this same crap right now? Any hope left for colleges?

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What is "all this same crap" to you?

I'm sure Old Army was complaining about how woke A&M and Rudder were after he let minorities and women enroll.

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Every previous Ag generation always complained after non refs were allowed. The university by and large is not 'woke' (however that term is being defined). There are a minority of vocal liberals but the majority aren't liberals and thus don't feel the need to be vocal. I will say, however, that my son is a freshman on a PT track and he had a required anthro class whose prof was nuts….and I initially tried to give his prof the benefit of the doubt (trying to expand freshman points of view)..but as the semester went on his profs comments ("there's no thing as gender") made both my son and I face palm. I told him you'll get some nuts here and there but most will be fine. I try to be careful and not apply the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon as many here tend to do…But even those unique instances stick in your mind.

Depends on what college really. Ag sciences are more conservative, libarts are ....well, more liberal. Engineering is skewed left I would say.

It's not raving mad leftist like Pitt or Harvard but there is VERY much a push for inclusion and diversity in every little thing on campus. It consumes everything else really in the official diktats from up high. Generally openly accepted and pushed as well by the student body. Which is fine usually but it can be insidious to a point.

I will say though that these kids are different from my generation. Maybe not full on "woke" as defined by most here but definitely a lot more on that path than ever before.

In my case I am definitely the minority for being conservative in my own groups and classes. By a healthy margin. I would even say that it is generally assumed by most that everyone here is liberal. You shock people by being against the grain. Being liberal is the cool kid thing now, conservative, not so much.

Eliminatus said:

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I will say though that these kids are different from my generation. Maybe not full on "woke" as defined by most here but definitely a lot more on that path than ever before.

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Agree 100 percent.

And in many ways, it's not even a conscious decision they make. No matter how conservative their family is, they've spent their entire lives marinating in progressive culture and thought -- where liberal is the default.

two kids there now. One graduates next week. They have never mentioned any woke stuff they see, but they are both as conservative as me, and pretty much spend a lot of time on academics or with friends. One is a Nutrition major (College of Agriculture), the other Petroleum Engineering. I'm sure they'd see it more often if they were Liberal Arts.

I'm sure its there and thriving, but I doubt it's pervasive and overpowering. We need to do what we can to get rid of it where possible.

Old McDonald said:

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my nephew is an engineering student at A&M, he sent my brother a screenshot of a question from his calculus homework:

"the speed of a moving train follows the function f(t) = 3t^2, calculate the function representing the acceleration of the train if the conductor has an unconscious bias against black people"

truly dark times we're living in

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I call bull****

When I went in the 90s, a feminist (maybe Gloria Steinem?) came to A&M and on an early weekend morning, her and a few naive girls came marching through the quad chanting some nonsense. I was trying to sleep and some hero opened his window and yelled "get back into the kitchen b****es". I guess that worked since they moved on.

Yes please don't send your kid here. I got buddies who can't get their kids in so that might help.

Also if you think your kid is dumb enough to get indoctrinated that seems like more of a you problem.

Still hoping to get a straight answer on this one:

The football team entrance song at Kyle Field is laced with several MF bombs (profane) and racial slurs.

Is this woke, anti-woke, wise, appropriate? Other?

McKelveysCurse said:

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Still hoping to get a straight answer on this one:

The football team entrance song at Kyle Field is laced with several MF bombs (profane) and racial slurs.

Is this woke, anti-woke, wise, appropriate? Other?

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Still hoping to get a straight answer on this one:

Were you complaining about Power in 2014?

icrymyselftosleep said:

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McKelveysCurse said:

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Still hoping to get a straight answer on this one:

The football team entrance song at Kyle Field is laced with several MF bombs (profane) and racial slurs.

Is this woke, anti-woke, wise, appropriate? Other?

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Still hoping to get a straight answer on this one:

Were you complaining about Power in 2014?

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No I was not. Started off just desiring something other than a silly cartoonish song. This was before I actually googled the lyrics. Once that happened...it had to go.

I'm serious. Nobody seems to have an answer as to whether the song and its acceptance is woke, anti-woke, naive, ignorant?

OK, you're up...or anyone else perhaps?

It's been woke for a good while. I remember the time I first sat in on one of those parent presentations at a new student conference. Must have been 2013 I think. One of the students came in and stated her name and said "and my preferred pronouns are she / her / hers". That was literally the first time I had ever heard somebody say something like that. I felt like I had entered an alternate universe.

McKelveysCurse said:

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icrymyselftosleep said:

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McKelveysCurse said:

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Still hoping to get a straight answer on this one:

The football team entrance song at Kyle Field is laced with several MF bombs (profane) and racial slurs.

Is this woke, anti-woke, wise, appropriate? Other?

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Still hoping to get a straight answer on this one:

Were you complaining about Power in 2014?

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No I was not. Started off just desiring something other than a silly cartoonish song. This was before I actually googled the lyrics. Once that happened...it had to go.

I'm serious. Nobody seems to have an answer as to whether the song and its acceptance is woke, anti-woke, naive, ignorant?

OK, you're up...or anyone else perhaps?

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Your obsession with this song is so odd. They don't even play the lyrics you object to.

Playing that song is neither woke or anti-woke...whatever that means. It's a pump up song. You should hear what's on my running playlist.

tk111 said:

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As far as the student body, it is predominantly not, by population. However the wokiest of the woke will continue to be the loudest and most obnoxious.

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The biggest cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid people are so sure about things and the intelligent folks are so full of doubts.


- Bertrand Russell

CDub06 said:

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McKelveysCurse said:

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icrymyselftosleep said:

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McKelveysCurse said:

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Still hoping to get a straight answer on this one:

The football team entrance song at Kyle Field is laced with several MF bombs (profane) and racial slurs.

Is this woke, anti-woke, wise, appropriate? Other?

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Still hoping to get a straight answer on this one:

Were you complaining about Power in 2014?

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No I was not. Started off just desiring something other than a silly cartoonish song. This was before I actually googled the lyrics. Once that happened...it had to go.

I'm serious. Nobody seems to have an answer as to whether the song and its acceptance is woke, anti-woke, naive, ignorant?

OK, you're up...or anyone else perhaps?

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Your obsession with this song is so odd. They don't even play the lyrics you object to.

Playing that song is neither woke or anti-woke...whatever that means. It's a pump up song. You should hear what's on my running playlist.

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You should hear what's on my normal playlist

Get Off My Lawn said:

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Easy answer: check the ratio of Arts degrees vs Science degrees. If Science isn't clearly dominant, then woke is present.

This is a pretty safe metric because the pool of candidates for Arts professorships are absolutely dominated by leftists. The only exceptions are places like Liberty or Hillsdale who publish their mission of being conservative.

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You ever hear of the National Science Foundation or the National Institute of Health.

Lots of hard science, medical science, and engineering is funded at the university level from these two agencies. They woke. Very very woke.

Biggest science patron in the world?
Bill and Melinda Gates Fdn.
Woke.

Before Gates was the biggest private science funder.....Ford Foundation.....woke